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Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!I'm thinking socially engineered - phishedOriginally Posted by spidergoat
or
maybe brute force - cracked?
That is nothing compared to a site I found whilst on the trail of the scammers involved in the theft of mine and other members domains from DP. I came across a site that had over 200 geniune American CC accounts both Visa and Mastercard giving names, gender, address, dob, mothers maiden names, social security #'s, Card #'s, Expiry dates, and card security #'s. This site is some sort of Arabic forum and whoever had access to the site had carte blanche to do whatever they wished with this information. I reported it to the FBI but never heard back from them.
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An Open Letter to Mr. Patrick Norman (9MM)
Patrick Norman where are you?
You have not visited or posted recently here and we miss your antics.
We've got a hunch your reading this thread, but you're perhaps too embarrassed to post anything here. What a shame!
I'll make you a deal Mr. Norman. If you post an update with information related to your alleged accomplices and provide additional contact information them, I will ship you over 4,000 Pokemon cards that I scammed from someone on Craigslist. All I would need is a good shipping address.
There's no reason to run and hide Patrick. We already know a great deal about you and your dirty deals. We just want to know that you are still alive and breathing.
It's your call.
These cards are pretty hot!!!
CB
security tip for people running Windows or Linux - you can download the VMware player here -> http://vmware.com/download/player/
and then install VMware's "Secure Browser Appliance" -> http://www.vmware.com/appliances/dir...rowserapp.html
any browser exploit you might still run into will then be compartmentalized in your "virtual machine" environment
it's not foolproof, but a good first step to raise your operating environment above the "low hanging fruit" level.
Speaking of low-hanging fruit .... having spent some time wading through the gutter of 9mm's alter-egos' posting history on DP - one of the threads that came up involved a really charming blackmail shakedown attempt ->
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...15#post6089115
just a little window into how our little friend is inclined to operate behind the scenes. At this point it should be obvious that he fits the profile of a classic grifter - ie, a sociopathic con artist skilled at manipulating victims, with natural talent for making "friends" quickly - and then burning them. So keep this in mind if you might tend to be sympathetic to "the poor kid who didn't know what he was doing and got mixed up with a bad crowd" - your sympathy is part of the game.
while most the visible focus in this thread is on "the Sudbury connection" - sucking up hundreds of hours of time from all of us following the details - anyone paying attention should realize that 9mm is probably just the tiny tip of the iceberg relative to the other players involved in this current debacle. And likely the weakest link for getting leads on the rest of the ring - would be best if a push can be made for law enforcement to get him into ("protective") custody ASAP.
IMO, quite likely will be counterproductive for people to reveal too much more info or suggestions for the public record beyond that in this thread - maybe best to PM TheLegendaryJP if you've got something useful to add, and let him decide what will or won't be helpful to make public.
Lotta popcorn for the peanut gallery here (and that's where I'm sitting) - but obviously serious money problems on the line for the victims - and corresponding jail time for the scammers - so should try to keep in mind that this online drama can easily translate into a real-world "life and death" scenario ....
Yeah it's rediculous. I must get an email a month from 'PayPal' telling me my account has been frozen and to login in via the provided link. I bet LOADS of people follow the instructions on the email.
Funny thing is the links aren't even well disguised most of the time, just have the main site's name in from of the PayPal address. I guess some people just are that stupid/ignorant. (no offence anyone who regularly clicks on links in emails)
I do not recall seeing a nastier person than 9MM before ... wow .. such a low life individual. A virus to the society.
Well, at least he's backmailing another hacker/scammer there. Karma's a bi*tch.
We might actually be onto something here... If you carefully read his (supposedly his) shakedown attempt over at Digital Point, assuming it's all true, there are actually some pretty disturbing things to read in there...
Just in case it "goes down", here's a copy of it... If you can afford the time, I suggest you read it all.
There's more to that, but this should do for now. As you can see, there's no way to tell how many of these characters are out there, it almost seems like every stupid kid (or "no kid" for that matter) with some spare time (and obviously unfit parents) can do it... and not just that they can, but they actually seem to be doing it on regular basis!Crazy Domain Kid says:
hey give me like 5 mins then i'll talk to you k
Joe says:
ok
Crazy Domain Kid says:
eh
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I can talk now
Crazy Domain Kid says:
anyways...?
Joe says:
hey
Joe says:
can we like resolve this with out other people knowing stuff
Crazy Domain Kid says:
http://www.rsdruidz.com/index.php?showtopic=7549
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you umm
Crazy Domain Kid says:
yea
Crazy Domain Kid says:
...
Crazy Domain Kid says:
lol
Joe says:
what?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you really like to rip people off dont ya?
Joe says:
like omg dude wtf
Crazy Domain Kid says:
well
Crazy Domain Kid says:
conquest ea
Crazy Domain Kid says:
runescape shit
Crazy Domain Kid says:
..
Crazy Domain Kid says:
and now ur trying to pay me what a rapid share account to shut up
Joe says:
i dont paly the game i just got it to sell for cash
Joe says:
WHICH ISNT ILLEGAL
Crazy Domain Kid says:
real world trading is against rs rules...
Joe says:
agains what
Crazy Domain Kid says:
eh
Crazy Domain Kid says:
nvm
Crazy Domain Kid says:
what do you want seriously?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i'm still digging mate
Crazy Domain Kid says:
u keep opening more doors
Joe says:
i give u rapidshare account we call it even
Crazy Domain Kid says:
lol
Crazy Domain Kid says:
they are like $3
Joe says:
so
Crazy Domain Kid says:
so **** off
Crazy Domain Kid says:
$3 is like
Crazy Domain Kid says:
10 seconds work?
Joe says:
omg what do you want
Crazy Domain Kid says:
to be honest
Crazy Domain Kid says:
to see you get banned I guess
Crazy Domain Kid says:
to get you to admit who you are?
Joe says:
im not admitting stuff thats not true
Crazy Domain Kid says:
like your trying to bribe me with pennies
Crazy Domain Kid says:
obviously I'm going to say no
Crazy Domain Kid says:
and use the bribe on my proof
Joe says:
fine 8 dollar
Crazy Domain Kid says:
dude
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I dont want ur chumps change ok
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i've read so much about u
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you have scammed thousands and thousands ...
Joe says:
dude im only 17 years old
Crazy Domain Kid says:
thats nice
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I'm forwarding more info to mods
Joe says:
omg dude what the ****
Joe says:
u jut hate me because u THINK i am like gay
Crazy Domain Kid says:
nah
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
that would be dumb
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Crazy Domain Kid says:
maybe debunker uses that reason
Crazy Domain Kid says:
but
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I dont hate you
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I just have some strong shit against u
Joe says:
who are u?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
ahh
Crazy Domain Kid says:
a kid
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I guess
Crazy Domain Kid says:
no more different from you in a sense
Joe says:
wait where r u from
Crazy Domain Kid says:
in another sense completely different
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i came from my mother
Crazy Domain Kid says:
in a hospital in a city in a country...
Crazy Domain Kid says:
My personal details is irrelevant
Joe says:
do u like know me or what
Crazy Domain Kid says:
ahh
Crazy Domain Kid says:
just what i found out from digging
Joe says:
?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
from researching you online
Joe says:
no stop evading questiion
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I dont know you personally
Joe says:
do u know me in real liofe
Joe says:
oh ok
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Are you Mr Pregnant?
Joe says:
no lol
Joe says:
he is like over 30 years old probably
Crazy Domain Kid says:
^^ sure
Crazy Domain Kid says:
and why arent you?
Joe says:
im not even black.....
Joe says:
can u just like forget im on the forums?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
nope
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I will continue to research
Joe says:
please buddy
Crazy Domain Kid says:
continue to contact mods
Crazy Domain Kid says:
until proper action is taken
Joe says:
like omg
Joe says:
proper action!
Joe says:
most of the stuff u said is like so untrue
Crazy Domain Kid says:
so
Crazy Domain Kid says:
what is true?
Joe says:
i dont want to say
Crazy Domain Kid says:
lo
Crazy Domain Kid says:
lol*
Crazy Domain Kid says:
then
Joe says:
whats so funny
Crazy Domain Kid says:
oh well...
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Even if 1 point is true...
Crazy Domain Kid says:
it's worth my while
Crazy Domain Kid says:
thanks for your new email
Crazy Domain Kid says:
like dude
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you think i am dumb
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I type your email in google
Joe says:
?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
what the **** comes up
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you hacked a guy and took $3k in pp
Crazy Domain Kid says:
getting framed still?
Joe says:
wow omg....
Crazy Domain Kid says:
**** contacting mods I'm just gonna make a thread
Joe says:
dont
Crazy Domain Kid says:
y
Crazy Domain Kid says:
worst scenario
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i get 1-2 infractions
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i only got 3 now, no biggy
Crazy Domain Kid says:
best scenario
Crazy Domain Kid says:
everyone finds out
Crazy Domain Kid says:
u get banned?
Joe says:
dude i had ****ing 0 and now i have 9 because of u
Crazy Domain Kid says:
good
Joe says:
now i cant say anything inappropriate or anything with my Hosting or im baned
Joe says:
ur like so mean
Crazy Domain Kid says:
oh well
Crazy Domain Kid says:
you will be banned soon
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I am PM'ing mod
Joe says:
i did nothing wrong!
Crazy Domain Kid says:
about the $3k
Crazy Domain Kid says:
rs druids?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
something like that...
Joe says:
fine pm a mod
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i got the link though
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Joe says:
no posting threads
Crazy Domain Kid says:
yea
Crazy Domain Kid says:
thread
Joe says:
i dont care, u can pm whoever . privately
Crazy Domain Kid says:
just in an hour or two
Joe says:
no ****ing thread
Crazy Domain Kid says:
i got to gather it to look nice
Joe says:
posting what!
Crazy Domain Kid says:
all the proof
Joe says:
wait posting what
Crazy Domain Kid says:
except
Crazy Domain Kid says:
not ur sexuality
Joe says:
ok ty
Crazy Domain Kid says:
just the scammer stuff
Joe says:
go ahead post it
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I'll leave that for a rainy day
Joe says:
u better not bring anything about my private life in
Crazy Domain Kid says:
ahh
Crazy Domain Kid says:
not much?
Joe says:
what
Crazy Domain Kid says:
some needs to be
Crazy Domain Kid says:
like your sexuality may be tied in
Crazy Domain Kid says:
cause u lied about everything related to it alot
Crazy Domain Kid says:
so it shows your not really trustworthy?
Joe says:
because its my ****ing private stuff what i do with ppl
Crazy Domain Kid says:
so you are gay?
Joe says:
like omg......
Crazy Domain Kid says:
okay dude
Crazy Domain Kid says:
just come clean
Crazy Domain Kid says:
not ur sexuality
Crazy Domain Kid says:
but seriously
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Why is there thousands of people framing you?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
http://www.rsdruidz.com/index.php?showtopic=7549
Joe says:
ok wait; if i come clean. and u ask questions i will answer honestly. will u not post anything?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Tell me the truth about everything
Joe says:
fine.
Crazy Domain Kid says:
not just where you stick your dick :\
Joe says:
ask
Crazy Domain Kid says:
What's your real name
Joe says:
Joe
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Joseph Morris?
Joe says:
no
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Full name?
Joe says:
im not giving last name.....
Joe says:
i will answer everything else
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Great way to start lol
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Okay..
Joe says:
dude that like gives identity
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Have you ever stolen anything online?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
The largest amount of stolen funds or item in equivelant to cash...how much was it?
Joe says:
at one time?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
yes
Joe says:
4,500
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How was that money stolen?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Hacked?
Joe says:
it may kind of like ironic but i blackmailed some1
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Very ironic
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Have you ever been charged?
Joe says:
no
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do you have any relation to Conquest EA?
Joe says:
possibly
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Have you profitted from being related to Conquest EA?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I have a link showing you to be the owner of the site with Conquest EA on it
Crazy Domain Kid says:
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public...raderforex.com
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Someone reported their GoDaddy account was hijacked and the person stupidly left your email + the name richard wilson
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Was this you?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How many DP accounts do you have?
Joe says:
1
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You are not the owner of the account "ProTrader"?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
He made 1 post a while ago
Joe says:
no
Joe says:
i have 1 account
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Which is jkrish41?
Joe says:
what do u mean? that is mine
Crazy Domain Kid says:
That is your user name at DP...the only one you have...
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Have you ever hacked someone's paypal account?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
What was the largest amount taken from the stolen account and transferred out in one transaction?
Joe says:
800
Crazy Domain Kid says:
What about the $3, 000?
Joe says:
what 3000
Crazy Domain Kid says:
RS Druids
Crazy Domain Kid says:
...?
Joe says:
what about it
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Nevermind
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do you hack with keyloggers, or do you crack passwords?
Joe says:
i use to do keyloggers . but i crack passwords now
Crazy Domain Kid says:
So you own proxies?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I have read previously that Conquest EA stole $70, 000 from one unlucky individual
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Is this true?
Joe says:
i dont comment on other peoples behalf
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Have you stolen that large amount of money from someone before?
Joe says:
what large amount of money
Crazy Domain Kid says:
$70, 000
Joe says:
dude i dont comment on lot of $$
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You said you are the owner of Conquest EA, therefore he is lying, correct?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I am not with the FBI or anything
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Don't worry about that.
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You admitted to be the owner of Conquest EA
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You admitted to benefit from this
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Therefore, he is either telling the truth and you won't admit that part, or he is lying...
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Anyways
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do you have an e-gold account?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How much money do you have in your e-gold account?
Joe says:
only like 600
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do you have a paypal account?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How much money do you have in your paypal account?
Joe says:
in my balance? $7,420 and some cents
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do you have a moneybookers account?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How much money do you have in your moneybookers account?
Joe says:
none
Crazy Domain Kid says:
The paypal, is it yours, real funds, or stolen?
Joe says:
what?
Joe says:
kind of like mixture?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You are under age, isn't there a risk you get ****ed?
Joe says:
for what?
Joe says:
under age for what
Crazy Domain Kid says:
like limited
Crazy Domain Kid says:
PayPal
Crazy Domain Kid says:
How old are you?
Joe says:
17
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You have to be 18...
Joe says:
i know i should be 18 but they let me
Crazy Domain Kid says:
I suppose you called them
Joe says:
i confirmed a credit card and ssn
Joe says:
and bank account
Crazy Domain Kid says:
and told them what you do
Crazy Domain Kid says:
and they said they would love you there?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Joe says:
lol, well my dad does heavy business so they didnt really care
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Your dad works online?
Joe says:
im not saying anything about my dad
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Is your dads name Richard?
Joe says:
or my mmom
Joe says:
no its not
Joe says:
im not saying anymore though
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Does anyone related to you know what you do?
Joe says:
yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do they allow it
Joe says:
what do u mean allow it?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
they are okay with it
Joe says:
yea....
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Do they contribute to it?
Joe says:
i have some partners and ppl who do stuff with me....
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Are any of them related to you?
Joe says:
my brother
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Age?
Joe says:
16
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Is his name richard?
Joe says:
no
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Question
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You said you own Conquest EA?
Joe says:
no i dont
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Lie?
Joe says:
i never said i own it!
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You said you have relations to the owner
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You have profitted from it
Joe says:
ok but im not the owner
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Also that you admitted to be the person who someone accused of scamming who they said was the owner
Joe says:
where
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Richard Wilson - Resko35@gmail.com
Crazy Domain Kid says:
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public...raderforex.com
Joe says:
thats my email..... and a fake identy
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You admitted that you hijacked his godaddy
Joe says:
yeah
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Anyways
Crazy Domain Kid says:
What is your sexuality?
Joe says:
.....
Joe says:
do i have to answer this?
Crazy Domain Kid says:
Yes
Crazy Domain Kid says:
You said you would answer everything...
Joe says:
fine
Joe says:
gay
I for one am very aware of the endless possibilities and ways of how to carry out these scams... I know it's really not that hard, and even if you don't have any resources (read: cash), all you need is a list of a few Paypal addresses to start off. Regular PayPal Joe and PayPal Jane just aren't computer savvy enough for scum like that not to take advantage of.
Anyway, most of this is kids stuff, really easy to do, with no actual hacking involved. I just never thought there were actually people out there stupid enough to do this kind of s*** and think they can get away with it. Then again, seeing how they seem to be doing this on regular basis, and we barely ever hear about it (just like we sure as hell wouldn't hear about it this time, were we also not in this business and indirectly involved ourselves), maybe I'm the one who is stupid for thinking authorities would actually care enough to stop them. Internet fraud seems to have become a heaven for scammers... after all, there are too many variables involved when doing it in "real life" and unlike on the internet, somebody might actually care enough to stop them...
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Here is the orginal thread, there's some convo with the scammer and 9MM in it. If you read the post you should also check out the thread.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...=650303&page=2
For those that don't know, 9MM is Crazy Domain Kid and aka LLLL(on dp)
The other guy is the hacker/scammer.
Is this the same Joe... namelegend? Limits$? anyone remember him?
While all the hacking talk is important for us all to know let's keep this thready focused on this unresolved sale.
Perhaps someone can start another thread to discuss security threats?
Phone register.com tonight and tell them they need to protect the individuals account right away. Give them the files too, they may need to protect themselves and domainers names.
I wouldnt give those files to anyone outside of the ones involved.
I do this all the time. It's a method I give all my family and friends. Back in windows 95 and 98 I knew all the system files, and their sizes for the most part. Anytime I saw a change I investigated. In a dozen years I've run scans maybe 10 times, with adaware but only recently with this winxp. Too many files in the new OS to memorize like I used to. Nobody is allowed to mess with my business machine. I never allow activeX and never accept anything unknown. No free taskbars, I use my own proxies unless I'm here or other trusted places. Spyware can be good I'm sure, but they are only as good as what they've found. New stuff is developped all the time and unless you understad your machine your at risk.One more thing that you should frequently do to make sure you haven't got any sh*t installed on your computer, is to check all running processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL WinXP/Vista). Look up every process (google them) that you are not sure what is. If you see any weird process names, it might be spyware and you should consider getting it removed.
One thing that sets alarms are slow speeds, cpu or connection. I do run a clean machine so if I get a suspisious hicup or lag, I do a quick check.
As for registrar account emails and accounts... Be unique with the pw, each registrar, forum, email has its own pvt pw. As well, your account on your login to manage domains should not be the same email in your whois. I feel very secure at moniker.com, I also know if anyone moves a pile from my account I will be notified. Moniker looks out for domainers.
as for keylogging in internet cafes and such.. i travel alot but am forced to login here and there. Its laborous but what I do for logins is open any page with alot of text, and i copy a group of letters/numbers and backspace leaving the character needed to complete my password entry. Its a real pain but it works. Also, if you know you wont need to login until you return to a safe machine, some places let you reset the pw on the fly. they send to your account email.
Good luck all, keep an open eye.
i wrote above, but cant edit: "Spyware can be good I'm sure" I meant Spyware Protection
Last edited by Jacksplat; 03-11-2008 at 10:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
---- We interupt this broadcast to bring you a not-so-important update ----
Regarding the phishing and PayPal hacking topics that were raised earlier, I want to share a website with you called the Anti-Phishing Workgroup. They are located in Redwood City, just south of San Francisco, and track Phishing trends that occur online. There is a lot of great information on the site and it may answer quite a few of your questions. You can also report phishing attempts to them.
Search the archives for recent PayPal phishing attempts as well as hundreds of others that are online.
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Phishing Archive
Hope this helps out some.
---- Now, back to our regularly scheduled broadcast ----
I remember him, he used his mothers paypal account for his scams, an amatuer.. hopefully he isnt learning from this thread like criminals do watching investigative reality shows.
With almost 700 posts, it is not easy for other members to follow the story.
Please stay on the topic to make it easy to everyone.
I know you guys are famous of being off topic but this is the third reminder post!!!
Thanks,
John
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One could make a "made for TV movie" out of this stuff. With Gilbert Godfrey playing the role of Patrick Norman.
Honestly, i'm very impressed at how the community has come together to help eachother. This is what community is truly about. Regardless of these peoples ages, they are certainly clever enough to have ripped off dozens, possibly hundreds of smart people.
I think they should be tried as such as well.
Jay
All I have is .CA!!!
Anyone know if the FBI or whoever have started to do anything?
Just a heads up....I got the same and forwarded it to PP...they replied that under no circumstances to click on the link in the thread as it goes to a site that sticks you with a virus. A good virus scanner should pick it up but they are definitely going after the unsuspecting...or unprepared...
Real character is doing the right thing when nobody is watching.
Be sure brain is engaged before putting keyboard in gear.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a battle of wits with unarmed opponents
Well one time I got an email (long ago), that was an ebay phishing attempt, and the link was to some random domain like "happyjizen.com", so I checked the domain was available, so I toke it - and the next day I had 250 hits and no clicks on the ads
I am trying to get an associate on site in Sudbury
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