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Old 12-11-2008, 04:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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I agree with Vision, Google making Adsense for domains available to all as a feature is good for the image of the overall domain industry. They are effectively saying that parking domains is a legitimate business practice. We all know that, but the general public can get confused when the issue of parking comes up.

Many thought G was going to be going against domainers, but this confirms the opposite.
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I also agree that Development is still key.

IF the pages look like a google search, how many more parked pages can one person view?

Developing rich content and nice sites will trump a parked page.

Otherwise, landing on a parked page after parked page gets old.

Seriously, think about it...how many people want to go to a site or google search and end up on a parked page?

And that traffic you get? Do you think that is somebody typing in an URL to visit a parked page? Or do you reckon they are looking for information or a site.

Develop.

In the meantime, this may be a great alternative to the serial rapists called "parking companies".
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I also agree that Development is still key.

IF the pages look like a google search, how many more parked pages can one person view?

Developing rich content and nice sites will trump a parked page.

Otherwise, landing on a parked page after parked page gets old.

Seriously, think about it...how many people want to go to a site or google search and end up on a parked page?

And that traffic you get? Do you think that is somebody typing in an URL to visit a parked page? Or do you reckon they are looking for information or a site.

Develop.

In the meantime, this may be a great alternative to the serial rapists called "parking companies".


yes dev is key - one group or person can only manage a few dozen projects at a time

for the hundreds domains tbd later, perhaps the google parking will pay off in the long run as solid groundwork for search engines when a site is launched in the future.

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I agree with Vision, Google making Adsense for domains available to all as a feature is good for the image of the overall domain industry. They are effectively saying that parking domains is a legitimate business practice. We all know that, but the general public can get confused when the issue of parking comes up.

Many thought G was going to be going against domainers, but this confirms the opposite.

Yes

More transparency

Less price discrimination

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Old 12-11-2008, 04:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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i am guessing that adsense for domains is only for large portfolio holders. i am thinking of more than 2 million uniques/month
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Can someone post a link as soon as they have a domain up with Adsense for domains so we can all see what it looks like?
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I agree with Vision, Google making Adsense for domains available to all as a feature is good for the image of the overall domain industry. They are effectively saying that parking domains is a legitimate business practice. We all know that, but the general public can get confused when the issue of parking comes up.

Many thought G was going to be going against domainers, but this confirms the opposite.
Agree!
Anyway...I prefer Google take my money dealing directly with them than give my money every month to a parking company.

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Can someone post a link as soon as they have a domain up with Adsense for domains so we can all see what it looks like?
http://www.google.com/domainpark/images/dp_example.gif

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Anyway...I prefer Google take my money dealing directly with them than give my money every month to a parking company.



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i am guessing that adsense for domains is only for large portfolio holders. i am thinking of more than 2 million uniques/month
I am seeing no stipulations regarding this when reviewing all their terms for this announcement.

When will I see AdSense for domains in my account?

During the week following December 11th, we'll be gradually rolling out AdSense for domains to all North American publishers with English-language accounts. You should expect to see it appear in your account by December 18th, 2008.


There will be a CSV file for uploading 5000 domains at a time.
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Time for a PPC publishers union.
How about a cooperative ?.

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Old 12-11-2008, 04:33 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Reading some of the posts here scares the bejesus out me. Waiting on Google to say parking is a "legitimate business practice"? Think about that concept for a second... domain ownership rights don't legitimize it, Google will? Yeah sure... Google will touch the parking industry, and make it golden in the eye of the general public... If I can believe that, I also have to ignore 20,000,000 million Made For AdSense websites cluttering every corner of every single search engine, and just pretend the general public loves Google for sponsoring those sites. And that's just one symptom of the disease, never mind endless copyright infringement via scraper sites, etc, etc, etc...

The general public flock towards Google because Yahoo sucks, that in itself proves they aren't blind... Google will do nothing to appease the parking haters, you can count on that, and in the mean time the general public will continue to see WHAT IS.
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:42 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I'm not impressed about an open page of links.

I hope G would get the template/headers type thing going.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:03 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I would maintain a healthy skepticism over this news. Everyone has been complaining for a while that their adsense on developed pages is extremely low. What makes people think you are all suddenly going to be getting multiples of what your parking company was giving you???

As far as calling parking companies evil - they were providing you a service - one which you couldn't provide on your own. You were free to take your names wherever and whenever you choose. Of course they are going to take a percentage -- how else are they going to make a profit? They aren't in the non-profit business. And they don't OWE you anything. If you were bringing in so much traffic that you were doing them a favor - then they would have made a deal with you to give you a bigger share.

Someone else pointed this out - that parking companies had leverage with google. Unless, you have a large share of internet traffic coming into your portfolio - you don't.

This may or may not be a good thing. But if it operates anything like adwords and google slap - than it's not.
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It's time for Domain Unions... long overdue....

I'm sure most of the parking companies would merge rather then simply go bankrupt. A few of the lame ducks may fall or get snatched up in '09 depending on how well Google does.

side note: Anyone know how to bulk change the A record and cname records with Godaddy or do I have to do each domain name one by one. Which it was a simple name server change.
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Its in my account and it's not as easy as just changing the DNS or forwarding the domain. The domain needs to be hosted somewhere, create the A record, change the CNAME record, and a few other things.
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My hope is that this works out well for all.

If this is a new business model and does succeed, then this will unquestionably bring more into the domaining foray.

And it appears that one thing domaining in general needs is NEW MONEY.

The value of quality generics and search terms and brandable domain IN ANY EXTENSION may be the new en vogue thing.

Much of this may be wishful thinking but it definitely gives a boost to all the humdrum depressed sounding threads on all forums lately.
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How is the situation for non-North America located domain owners with north-America type-in traffic domains?
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:29 PM   #58 (permalink)
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It's a bit lame and kinda cheesy, but for hilarity's sake I want to lock into this thread a gut feeling / prediction. If AdSense for domains is able to take hold, and kill off a large percentage of parking companies, domain parking will be dead in 3 to 5 years. We'll hear stories along the way from parking reps that Google squeezed them out deliberately in the lead up, leaving them to take the blame for diminishing parking payouts, as is likely the case here and now. Google will naturally keep their own payouts high right up until they've bleed out most of the middle men. However in the end and with few PPC parking options left on the table at that point, Google will sanitize, regulate, and shave PPC parking to death, possibly even just sh!t-can the whole program one day due to some "public outcry nonsense" (i.e. GOOG needs a rebound). I've been an AdSense publisher for 5 to 6 years now, and despite global ad spending increasing every single year, earnings continue to nose dive across numerous keyword niches, and across numerous languages.

Last I checked Google is still the same double talk company that has been wobbling over the "domain parking" issue for years. Though parking companies still use Google ad feeds, they do very much hold a tremendous amount of collective bargaining power through the sheer number of publishers they represent. In that sense they also offer an umbrella of collective protection to domainers, simply based on the fact that they are "collective", and exist outside of Google's direct oversight.

My business survival slogan for myself from 2008 forward is "get comfortable developing and managing direct ad sales, or find a new line of work". I'm convinced PPC for both domains and websites is dying...
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i wonder if this will have any positive impact on how google lists parked pages.
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We'll hear stories along the way from parking reps that Google squeezed them out deliberately...
I posted a link to this very thing around the beginning of this year.

Google made it very clear that they were in the business to make money, not give it away.

And their shareholders were insistent that this be done. This was relating to a speech the CEO of Google made.

I was left with the impression that this spelled bad news for Adsense accounts.

The reality is perhaps Google did finally wake up to the fact that domains and domaining IS a viable business and good for their bottom line. If they can get away with negotiating a bulk deal per millions of domains and instead have those millions per company as their own revenue stream, then this may be where they are heading.

It may be a win/win for domainers regarding parking.

This may force the parking companies to come back to us and offer a greater share to keep our business, better service, and a rude awakening that they, the parking company, exists because of domains and domainers. Too often we have been taken for granted and treated like lower class citizens.

Domains and the internet does not exist because because companies made it so.
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