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Old 12-12-2008, 04:27 AM   #81 (permalink)
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If Adsense for parked domains doesn't come up with good looking layouts and image support, then the CTR will be extremely low - hence making room for the current domain parking companies. On the long run I agree that G wants to kill domain parking, and I won't shed a tear to be honest..
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:59 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Just enabled a domain on Adsense for Domains.

Here is how it looks: http://www.crageslist.net/
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:15 AM   #83 (permalink)
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http://www.aboutgorillas.com/ posted also and relevant ads
http://www.allmotorsports.com/ posted also and relevant ads

however check out http://www.aboutcaralluma.com/
this has ZERO to do with caralluma the hot weight loss natural remedy ?? and its been up for 3 days

The problem I see is no place to advertise domain for sale and zero selection on temps, should at least have a few and a small area to input info
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:50 PM   #84 (permalink)
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But the problem is it's incredibly difficult to sell ads, especially on sites which do not get extremely high traffic, where ad sales are almost impossible on most domainer kind of sites.


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Nominated for 'Post Of The Thread'. The final paragraph being the only true solution. Your traffic is an asset, and using it for anything other than direct (ad) sales is to devalue it.
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But the problem is it's incredibly difficult to sell ads, especially on sites which do not get extremely high traffic, where ad sales are almost impossible on most domainer kind of sites.
That's true, you do have to be more selective in what domains you buy if you plan to base your income solely around direct advertisers. I'm mostly buying geos these days, as they're a sure fit for a strong non PPC dependant monetization strategy. I plan to lean as far away from PPC as I can in the next couple years, it just feels more short term by the month.
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That's true, you do have to be more selective in what domains you buy if you plan to base your income solely around direct advertisers. I'm mostly buying geos these days, as they're a sure fit for a strong non PPC dependant monetization strategy. I plan to lean as far away from PPC as I can in the next couple years, it just feels more short term by the month.
Direct ad placement on sites I own is what I am shooting for and perhaps close to accomplishing. This is the primary reason I decided to learn a css system - to maintain complete control over the site as well as design placement of all items.

I agree with the GEO.

Something that has worked very well and successful for me is niche markets. I am sure all of us have something we really dig and are really into. Perhaps it is out of mainstream. Niche markets. Perhaps future trends, spotting new technology, or anything.

Find a void and fill it. Tap into that market. It is so much easier being number one with 883,000 google returns vs. 883,000,000.

Payoffs and Payday can be quite nice.

Developing a price structure for ad placement and terms now for one site that has been in great demand. Adsense, CJ, Amazon and the like are simply fillers right now. Once direct ads are purchased there will be no need for affiliates.

Current priorities and life's needs have put this on hold until mid-spring 2009.

Again, that is why it is so crucial every one should learn a format whether it is hand programming, Joomla, Wordpress or any thing else.

Until then, that is the only way you will be able to control the domains, the ads, the revenue.
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But the problem is it's incredibly difficult to sell ads, especially on sites which do not get extremely high traffic, where ad sales are almost impossible on most domainer kind of sites.

That's why I put 'ad' in ( ) - direct sales is better. Approaching local companies to effectively dropship - this is the direction I'm heading in.

Everyone wants more sales and will pay to get them. A lot of smaller firms underutilise the internet because they don't understand it.
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Can someone post a screenshot of what the AdSense SetUp page will look like with this Adsense for Domains added?

Want to make sure to know what to look for and make sure I do not miss it.
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I'm waiting for this service to be activated this week.

How is the revenue like for those people who already has the service on?
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:26 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Great. Only thing is I live in UK.
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Revenue so far is down by almost 35% for me. I'll assume its due to the fact that the change in name servers and records have yet to propagate through out the internet. However, if this continues, it's back to Parked.com for me. CTR also has a marginal decrease. The 200 channel limit is stupid if you have thousands of names. I already miss simple features like origin of traffic and searches, etc. not too mention vibrant templates. Sure, one click landers may even things out but I've yet to see and true benefits. I'll give it a few more days to see how it fairs though.
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Hmmmmmmmmm...I'm assuming you have no real control over keywords here.....that's the first turd in my bowl of soup. Can't change templates, titles, etc.
Secondly, they are under ALOT of scrutiny from TM holders and are already involved in several very large lawsuits regarding the monetization of tm domains & typos so if YOU currently are monetizing these types of domains I would be ultra careful about now "parking" them directly with Google....you never know whos side they are really on.
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Great. Only thing is I live in UK.
Transfer your domains to me.

Problem solved.

See? Solutions to everything.

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Hmmmmmmmmm...I'm assuming you have no real control over keywords here.....that's the first turd in my bowl of soup. Can't change templates, titles, etc.
Secondly, they are under ALOT of scrutiny from TM holders and are already involved in several very large lawsuits regarding the monetization of tm domains & typos so if YOU currently are monetizing these types of domains I would be ultra careful about now "parking" them directly with Google....you never know whos side they are really on.
I have many getting booted off sedo for anything "seemingly" TM.

There are alternatives
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:46 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Time for the Parking Companies to do a better job

The google landers seem very simple; like everything google. The 200 channels is limiting, but domains of the same topic can be forwarded all to one lander, I think? Its not like a parking page is going to grow page rank for individual domains.

I think what they are doing makes sense. Anyone with large traffic probably wont use this solution. So they providing something simple; like a default.

I personally hate parking pages, and if every undeveloped domain went to a wikipedia page of a relevent topic I would be happier. But we live in a Google world. Google is our master. So maybe every domain will eventually have google parking as its default.

Perhaps Google is also doing this to pressure the parking companies - not into bankruptcy, but to do a better job. Until now the parking comapanies, all of them, have done a poor job. Lets be honest, there might be clicks but everyone hates parking pages. And the majority of domainers make very little individually; but collectively their traffic is large so the parking companies themselves have a nice cut and they get spoiled. They make good money; but now they are going to be less spoiled.

Parking companies could be providing all kinds of tools on the landers; targeted news, auto-updating content, blogs and forum options, all kinds of things. There are tons of widgets out there; why cant we be adding them to our parking pages? If you imagine a control panel in your parking page with dozens or 100's of widgets and other page customization, we would all be spending a lot more more time doing that and less time crying on dnf.

One of my favorite parking companies is Trafficz but there is virtually no work done on the landers. The landers are not even very good looking. TrafficZ did some development this year - but instead of doing it on their landers, they redid their user interface for the domainer. Why? The old one worked fine; the new one is much worse, even with their fixes. So why not spend that money on better landers? It makes no sense to me. The TrafficZ lander for real estate has some news at the bottom, but its the only lander they have to do this - its like dangling a carrot but for some reason they dont do more.

I applaud Google for doing this. Now the parking companies have to step up or go away.

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Parking companies could be providing all kinds of tools on the landers; targeted news, auto-updating content, blogs and forum options, all kinds of things. There are tons of widgets out there; why cant we be adding them to our parking pages? If you imagine a control panel in your parking page with dozens or 100's of widgets and other page customization, we would all be spending a lot more more time doing that and less time crying on dnf.
Why the hell do parking companies need to offer you all these extra features? If you want them, start a wordpress blog, get your widgets, throw you adsense publisher code on there and drive on. It's called developing your domain name. They are a parking company for goodness sake. That's like parking your car in a lot and wondering, "well perhaps they should offer window cleaning services".Having them offer all these nice little features changes them from a parking company to basically a hosting company with ads on them and it is not as easy as you may think to switch and have a meaningful well functioning and integrated place with all those features. Think of increased cost to them... increased bandwith etc. What happens if a forum or a site becomes virally popular? It's not a cookie cutter situation here.

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I doubt Google is trying to pressure parking companies to do a better job... 1 thing only... profit. I disagree with your hyperbolic statement that ALL parking companies have done a poor job. Parked.com has opened tremendously to the point where you can add youtube videos on parked domains and add own content. So they wouldn't quite fit in your soup bowl.

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...I disagree with your hyperbolic statement that ALL parking companies have done a poor job. Parked.com has opened tremendously to the point where you can add youtube videos on parked domains and add own content. So they wouldn't quite fit in your soup bowl.
Right, parked.com is clearly the leader by a wide margin what with all their innovations, amazing number of landers, great looking pages, excellent customization and custom content and great ease of use. If Google For Domains mimicked what parked.com has accomplished can you imagine how successful it could be. Surprising Google did not buy parked.com Maybe they simply did not realize how good they are and paid no attention since they use a Yahoo feed.
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Think about it.

Google are generally very good at what they do. They have released AdSense for domains to a small portion of domainers. They are clearly working on it and I would expect to see changes in the interfaces and also in the level of control you get over what your page looks like. By the time they have taken over, I would expect to see the best set of tools for parking domains that has ever been seen.

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This service doesn't seem to be very promising for domainers.

The parked pages don't seem to be very effective.

It would be interesting to see if the revenue is higher than other parking companies.

It is important to note that Google does not allow promotion of parked domains. From Adsense for Domains Terms and Conditions:
"Except for related Google queries and end user license and queries entered into Links, all queries must originate from individual human end users inputting a URL directly into the address bar of an Internet browser."
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I wonder if they will allow Google typos
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