Mixing languages - what's up with ccTLDs? - DNForum - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

**draggar** · 06-12-2009, 07:08 PM

Seriously?

Other than good development - why do I see people selling domains in one language with the ccTLD for a different country (especially when it isn't a common language in that country?)

LowHomeMortgages.de? CasinoBlackjack.cn? MiCasaRoja.co.uk?

What is up with that? Is there really a market for this (outside of resellers? Do they really get traffic?

**sdsinc** · 06-12-2009, 07:18 PM

Newbie mistakes.
To begin with a ccTLD should normally match the language(s) of the country of origin. Of course, common, universal English keywords like job news etc will be OK in almost any extension.
Now if you try to incorporate American concepts in a foreign extension, something like paydayloan.fr - that's not going to fly.

**draggar** · 06-12-2009, 07:37 PM

OK, I figured enough I was just wondering because I've seen a bit of it recently (over the past 4-6 moths)

**sdsinc** · 06-13-2009, 09:16 AM

I don't think it's a new trend. Names like that have been around for such a long time.
As usual, it's useful to check reported sales to see what types of names do sell. Many ccTLD sales take place at Sedo and are reported on DNJ.

**tekz999** · 06-13-2009, 09:30 AM

Yes its crazy, just like hongkong.us? makes you go, HUHZ?!

**$ideline** · 06-13-2009, 01:23 PM

I just laugh when I see geo domains with a ccTLD like lasvegas.cn - are you kidding? Who wants to buy that, it makes no sense at all! Do people really buy these domains? Maybe it's other newbie domainers that buy them because they think there is resell potential? I don't get it...

**sdsinc** · 06-13-2009, 03:55 PM

Funny that you say that, I see German keywords.cn on sale right now on DNF

**Viator** · 06-22-2009, 05:21 PM

I agree with the remarks above, although I would make an exception for so-called pseudo-global TLDs, such as .TV or .WS, not associated by most people with Tuvalu or Western Samoa. In the case of a pseudo-global TLD, some geo names might make sense.

Language definitely should be taken into consideration also for pseudo-global TLDs. Not so much for .TV, definitely quite universal. But for .WS, I would only buy top generic names in French, since .WS can be associated with "WebSite" in English or in German, but does not really make sense in French ("Site Web", not the same order of letters). (And yes, anyway, I know that much could be said about .WS and if it has any future - I have bought a few of them nevertheless, but only good generic, and let's see...)

I am indeed very intrigued to see all those .CN names in German or other languages that people attempt to sell.

**Moxie Maxwell** · 09-23-2009, 01:06 AM

So are you all saying that buying a .cc like domain.cc is not a good investment?

the reason I ask is becuase I picked up a few along the way, gimme.cc and houseforsale.cc and I am looking at getting rid of about 200 domains I have and I have a couple of .cc tlds.

**HappyDay** · 09-23-2009, 03:28 PM

It´s good practice to register only common english words with the .de extension in my opion. For example I have bodyteam.de and it´s quite easy to understand what it means and for which business it´s the ideal name. However, some english words will never sell with this extension. It´s just a waste of money to register these names.

**draggar** · 09-23-2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie Maxwell

So are you all saying that buying a .cc like domain.cc is not a good investment?

the reason I ask is becuase I picked up a few along the way, gimme.cc and houseforsale.cc and I am looking at getting rid of about 200 domains I have and I have a couple of .cc tlds.

.cc, .ws, and .tv are commonly used when the main TLDs are not available.

But - I'm talking about people who get ccTLDs and mix the native language (like German for .de) of the ccTLD and the language of the domain itself.

Sure, there are some exceptions (.me, .it, hacks, very common phrases, alternate meanings (.fm) etc..) but ones like HighStakesPokerTables.pl (Poland)?

**ordersomething** · 09-23-2009, 04:15 PM

http://www.draggar.theevilmod/has_spoken

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**hugegrowth** · 09-23-2009, 05:37 PM

I see country code domains sell all the time with English keywords, so there is a market for it. Mainly European countries like .de, .fr, .be, .it - and I won't even get into .tv and .cc. Maybe they use them to market to english speaking tourists, or for search engine keyword ranking, or they just like the term. Hard to say but you see it every week in the dnjournal sales report.

06-12-2009, 07:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
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sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Today 01:02 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,667 DNF$: 28,093 Location: .cz Country:	Newbie mistakes. To begin with a ccTLD should normally match the language(s) of the country of origin. Of course, common, universal English keywords like job news etc will be OK in almost any extension. Now if you try to incorporate American concepts in a foreign extension, something like paydayloan.fr - that's not going to fly. __________________ VeryOldNames.com

06-12-2009, 07:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 02:01 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,339 DNF$: 411 Location: South Florida Country:	OK, I figured enough I was just wondering because I've seen a bit of it recently (over the past 4-6 moths) __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains

06-13-2009, 09:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Today 01:02 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,667 DNF$: 28,093 Location: .cz Country:	I don't think it's a new trend. Names like that have been around for such a long time. As usual, it's useful to check reported sales to see what types of names do sell. Many ccTLD sales take place at Sedo and are reported on DNJ. __________________ VeryOldNames.com

06-13-2009, 09:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
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$ideline DNF Addict Name: Angela Last Online: 11-20-2009 12:29 PM iTrader: (21) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 489 DNF$: 4,629 Location: Canada Country:	I just laugh when I see geo domains with a ccTLD like lasvegas.cn - are you kidding? Who wants to buy that, it makes no sense at all! Do people really buy these domains? Maybe it's other newbie domainers that buy them because they think there is resell potential? I don't get it... __________________ DNshop.ca -- shop for .ca domains Domainatrix.ca -- No Tricks... Just Domains

06-13-2009, 03:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Today 01:02 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,667 DNF$: 28,093 Location: .cz Country:	Funny that you say that, I see German keywords.cn on sale right now on DNF __________________ VeryOldNames.com

06-22-2009, 05:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Viator Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-02-2009 04:09 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 18 DNF$: 10 Location: Switzerland Country:	I agree with the remarks above, although I would make an exception for so-called pseudo-global TLDs, such as .TV or .WS, not associated by most people with Tuvalu or Western Samoa. In the case of a pseudo-global TLD, some geo names might make sense. Language definitely should be taken into consideration also for pseudo-global TLDs. Not so much for .TV, definitely quite universal. But for .WS, I would only buy top generic names in French, since .WS can be associated with "WebSite" in English or in German, but does not really make sense in French ("Site Web", not the same order of letters). (And yes, anyway, I know that much could be said about .WS and if it has any future - I have bought a few of them nevertheless, but only good generic, and let's see...) I am indeed very intrigued to see all those .CN names in German or other languages that people attempt to sell. __________________ NameTactic.com

09-23-2009, 01:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
Moxie Maxwell Platinum Lifetime Member Name: R Moxie Maxwell Last Online: 09-23-2009 01:06 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 DNF$: 0 Location: Central Pennsyl Country:	So are you all saying that buying a .cc like domain.cc is not a good investment? the reason I ask is becuase I picked up a few along the way, gimme.cc and houseforsale.cc and I am looking at getting rid of about 200 domains I have and I have a couple of .cc tlds. __________________ Only one link allowed in signature Last edited by Moxie Maxwell; 09-23-2009 at 01:16 AM..

09-23-2009, 03:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
HappyDay Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 07:29 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42 DNF$: 10 Location: Germany Country:	It´s good practice to register only common english words with the .de extension in my opion. For example I have bodyteam.de and it´s quite easy to understand what it means and for which business it´s the ideal name. However, some english words will never sell with this extension. It´s just a waste of money to register these names. Last edited by HappyDay; 09-23-2009 at 04:09 PM.. Reason: Typo

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09-23-2009, 05:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
hugegrowth Last Online: Today 12:11 PM iTrader: (23) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,042 DNF$: 9,001 Location: BeeCee Country:	I see country code domains sell all the time with English keywords, so there is a market for it. Mainly European countries like .de, .fr, .be, .it - and I won't even get into .tv and .cc. Maybe they use them to market to english speaking tourists, or for search engine keyword ranking, or they just like the term. Hard to say but you see it every week in the dnjournal sales report. __________________ Submit URL Free now - Free website advertising and classifieds DomainReport.ca - domain tips and .ca domain blog

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