zt.net - marked down

**HeavyLifting** · 03-14-2003, 12:41 PM

get your very own 2 letter domain name. the rarest of the rare.

ZT.NET - DOMAIN HAS BEED SOLD!

some similar domains in use:

http://www.zt.com
http://www.zt.ru
http://www.zt.nl
http://www.zt.co.at

some companies with 'ZT' in their names:

http://www.zthollandia.nl
http://www.ztgroup.com
http://www.ztcigars.com
http://www.zt-prentner.at
http://www.zto.ch

paypal only. first come first served.

-Charlie

**Banned: DrWho** · 03-14-2003, 03:23 PM

DNForum Members:

Being interested in ZT.NET I performed an USPTO.GOV query and came up with 20 live TM's.

Although 2 letter names can be successfully defended in a TM Law suite, the costs associated will far exceed the initial investment. Hence, a case can be made for knowingly posting a name for sale with questionable TM status without disclosure.

What are your opinions fellow DNForm members?

Dr.

Serial Number Reg. Number Word Mark Check Status Live/Dead
1 78112705 ZT-VAC "ZERO TURN RADIUS VACUUM UNIT" TARR LIVE
2 76433343 ZTFIRE TARR LIVE
3 76281789 ZT AUTOMATION TARR LIVE
4 76100677 2475783 ZT TARR LIVE
5 76246226 2624075 ZT TARR LIVE
7 75788737 2411447 ZT TARR LIVE
9 75675992 2326468 ZTS TARR LIVE
10 75594757 2412974 ZTS TARR LIVE
12 75488931 2259453 ZT TARR LIVE
13 75473638 2362954 ZT ALLOY TARR LIVE
14 75426233 2225914 ZT ZETA-TECH TARR LIVE
17 75166034 2191319 ZT TARR LIVE
18 75045066 2062815 ZTS TARR LIVE
22 74604958 1975991 ZT TARR LIVE
23 74631071 1938923 ZT-TAPE TARR LIVE
34 73643092 1468876 ZT-D TARR LIVE
35 73602144 1421274 RESPONSE ZT TARR LIVE
43 72416416 0963635 ZT TARR LIVE
44 72219653 0801471 ZT TARR LIVE
45 72032819 0671055 ZEO-TABS TARR LIVE

**NamePopper.com** · 03-14-2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by DrWho
Being interested in ZT.NET .....

What are your opinions fellow DNForm members?

It's a valid concern. Before spending that much money - I would make sure where you stand.

Maybe 'Android' already has done his homework here - and can put the fears to rest.

**Banned: timechange.com** · 03-14-2003, 03:46 PM

ZT = Zero Tolerance

**HeavyLifting** · 03-14-2003, 05:46 PM

nearly every 2 letter combination has some marks associated with it. by drwho's logic, gregr might soon have to surrender ec.com to a holder of an 'ec' mark. in my mind, this is absurd logic.

in theory, the mark owner COULD attempt to take the domain from you, but a simple reply to them pointing out the infinately generic and flexible nature of a 2 letter acronym should end it.

the very fact that there are multiple owners of 'zt' marks in various spaces supports the right to own zt.net. it demonstrates the LACK of exclusive rights to the mark across all conceivable applications.

of course, you can't make use of zt.net in a way which infringes on a holder of a 'zt' mark, but that's a completely different conversation.

if you are worried about having to defend the name, don't buy it. simple as that.

charlie

PS - yes, i do know what i'm talking about. i've been attacked by 'trademark-squatters' several times and come out on top always. big companies too - as big as they get.

**bidawinner** · 03-14-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Android

the very fact that there are multiple owners of 'zt' marks in various spaces supports the right to own zt.net. it demonstrates the LACK of exclusive rights to the mark across all conceivable applications.

charlie

You are correct and I dont understand why that is sooo difficult for people to understand..

especially from seasoned specultors..

**HeavyLifting** · 03-14-2003, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by bidawinner

You are correct and I dont understand why that is sooo difficult for people to understand..

especially from seasoned specultors..

i hear you. gets a little old to hear logic like dr. who's

**NamePopper.com** · 03-14-2003, 05:59 PM

What Charlie says makes sense - and I just ran a check of several 2 letter combos that are registered to various people I know (including myself). Every one comes back with multiple TM's so apparently that is very common.

*EDIT* - I just spoke with someone who is far more familar with TM issues than most of us - and she assured me that this is not a problem. While it may appear a little scary on the surface - there is apparently nothing to fear unless you use the name in bad faith to damage or infringe on somebody else's existing mark.

**think** · 03-14-2003, 06:05 PM

Nice 2 letter Android.
In my opinion trademark issues would be irrelevant unless the domain owner does one of two things with this name:
1. sell products similar to a trademarked company or
2. The name owner tries to sell the name to the trademark holder.

Otherwise there should be no conflicts unless an unscrupulous trademark squatter tried to TM ZT.net in it's entirety. Very doubtful but it does happen.

I'm not a legal expert and there are exceptions to every case but I would not hesitate to buy this name out of TM concerns. 2 Letter .nets are extremely rare and I would be exuberant to own one just from the standpoint of rarity if I could afford it.
My two cents

**buy.name** · 03-15-2003, 01:08 AM

PM sent!

**Beachie** · 03-15-2003, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by bidawinner

You are correct and I dont understand why that is sooo difficult for people to understand..

especially from seasoned specultors..

Yes, I agree. This is basic trademark law.

What I don't understand, bidawinner, is what the hell happened to your avatar?!

It looks like a dog in a blender..