How do I transfer .ca ownership to another?

[steveto]

not sure how to do this.

I have an enom reseller account and a domain that belongs to a customer of mine is in there. He just sold his site, but now wants to transfer ownership of the domain to the new guy. I know how this works with .com, but how to do this quickly for .ca? There is no company..only from one name to another name, both are Canadian citizens. I am assuming each has to fax ID's, but who do I contact..CIRA or enom? What is the fastest way to do this?

Steve

[hugegrowth]

The buyer should initiate the transfer. Tell them to go into their registrar account and find the 'transfer domain' button. If they can't figure it out, tell them to contact their registrar and they will help them do it. Your client will have to approve the transfers, he'll get an email about it and will have to log into his Cira account to approve it. Good luck. If the buyer doesn't have a registrar, I'd suggest namespro.ca because they have good support.

[ianccc]

Well doing this with ENOM is a problem

It's all up to the buyer

-tell the buyer to initiate the transfer - hopefully they use a
good registrar like Namespro
-there are two initiations required
a) registRAR transfer - enom - new registrar
b) registRANT from your client to buyer
so they will have to pay the registrant fees twice (once for each initiation)

All you have to do is approve the transfers - so the ADMIN e-mail address has to work and you will need your CIRA registrant ID login details - once the initiation happens I think the passwords will be sent to the admin e-mail


DO NOT LET THEM DO THIS THRU ENOM - consider yourself warned

[DropWizard.com]

Originally Posted by hugegrowth

The buyer should initiate the transfer.

Bad Bad Bad!

Assuming the seller authorizes the transfer that would allow the buyer to obtain the CIRA password for the seller's CIRA account and raid all the domains in it.

As Ianccs said registrar transfer then registrant transfer all initiated by the seller. He should collect the fees upfront.

And don't do it at Sibername. For other reasons they have a serious security issue in their accounts and have refused or neglected to fix it.

[hugegrowth]

Originally Posted by DropWizard.com

Bad Bad Bad!

Assuming the seller authorizes the transfer that would allow the buyer to obtain the CIRA password for the seller's CIRA account and raid all the domains in it.

I don't get it, how would the buyer get the password for Cira? The transfer is only for one name.

The seller would get the email for the one domain, log into Cira and approve the transfer for the one name. I've done this before and it all seemed pretty safe. I get the email from Cira about the one domain, log into my Cira account. Then you see the list of your names, and a separate list with the name or names being transferred. You approve it and done. I don't see the risk.

[RazorNF]

Yeah, it shouldn't matter who initiates the transfer. The respective cira logins/passwords are sent to the email addresses in the two accounts. The main consideration is who gets billed.

But with that said, Steve's situation involves an enom reseller - i don't know how they have their setup, but everything should still be going through cira. And if the receiving customer doesn't have a cira account yet, he needs to create one.

The only way i can see someone having access to someone else's domains is if they bypass the transfer procedure and the registrant just goes in and changes the contact details in his own account to that of the buyer... then that would be a big mistake...

[liberator]

I've always initiated the transfer, as the buyer, in every deal I've made. I don't see how its a security risk for the seller? I initiate the transfer at namespro.ca then they approve then I initiate the registrant transfer everything is approved in there cira account.

[DropWizard.com]

I haven't tried it to see if there is a security breach or not. But many registrar systems simply have you put the domain in to get the cira password. Problem is I don't know if it goes to the addy on the domain or the cira account. If the buyer gets ahold of the domain and changes the email addy.......???

I don't want to be the one to find out. A friend has his account compromised a few years back and they took several domains. And I do mean major generics. When we called CIRA they said if the password got out .....


TOUGH!!!

[hugegrowth]

thanks for the tip, I assumed the registrar contacted Cira, and the password came from Cira to the registrant of the domain.

[liberator]

I don't think that can be right? If it was then anyone could just go around and start initiate transfers in order to steal domains? If I was a crook and that exploit existed I could go around and start ripping people off by initiating a transfer and getting there cira account password emailed to me. I don't think it would ever work like that my 0.02

[DropWizard.com]

Originally Posted by liberator

I don't think that can be right? If it was then anyone could just go around and start initiate transfers in order to steal domains? If I was a crook and that exploit existed I could go around and start ripping people off by initiating a transfer and getting there cira account password emailed to me. I don't think it would ever work like that my 0.02

Why don't I transfer one of your domains and let's find out.

You can trust me right?????

[liberator]

Sure go ahead and try and transfer boguns.ca if you get it you can keep it too

[TheLegendaryJP]

Hhhmmm, the best way would be to accept the request from a buyer is from within your cira account. I think, that way both the registrants name changes with the cira and name is accepted to transfer within or out. JMO How I bought from people in the past, made life easy. Now in saying this the name has to be in the sellers cira account, it is possible to buy a .ca, request transfer, receive it and the first owners info still be with the cira and not yours or the sellers due to them not having the cira changed when they bought, follow ?

It isnt fool proof and by that I mean the CIRA is still a joke imo. I have literally bought a .ca in person watched the seller accept transfer etc via his cira account and still months later the whois does not change nor does it show up in my cira account YET the name was successful in transfering to me.

[thebutler]

Originally Posted by DropWizard.com

Why don't I transfer one of your domains and let's find out.

You can trust me right?????

So its only Sibername that has this flaw?