Is there a resale market for .in's?

[Adam Dicker]

Just curious how others are doing, I have some really high quality .in's but get almost no requests for these domains.

Is anyone having any luck selling .in domains, if yes where?

-=DCG=-

[tt9000]

if you got the domian bring dot in, it'll sell. However I sold pitching.in couple weeks ago.

[CamMK27]

I have had no luck selling them even cheap. I have some good keyword 1 and 2 words .in's and have gotten no offers so far even after posting them in different forums in make offer section. I think it will take many years before they have any worth. I have a few 2 words that in the .com extentions were sold for 6 figures but no one even makes an offer of $xxx. Pretty sad.

[Adam Dicker]

I have had no luck selling them even cheap. I have some good keyword 1 and 2 words .in's and have gotten no offers so far even after posting them in different forums in make offer section. I think it will take many years before they have any worth. I have a few 2 words that in the .com extentions were sold for 6 figures but no one even makes an offer of $xxx. Pretty sad.

That echos my feelings exactly, seems like this was a bad investment for me.

-=DCG=-

[CamMK27]

That echos my feelings exactly, seems like this was a bad investment for me.

-=DCG=-

Exactly, I feel it was a waste of money. The only thing I have learnt is to buy some traffic ones and develop them. I have one that I hand registered 3 years ago and it gets some traffic, I put a mini site with adsense and some affiliate links. I only made little money with adsense (not even enough to pay renewal cost but around $8 in the whole year) but not a single affiliate sale. Seems like people are just looking for free information so they may click on adsense to see if they can get it but when it comes to buying anything they usually zip up their pockets lol...

[dnmm]

you can try listing your domain to www.inforum.in

[Adam Dicker]

I have all the best Hindi words .in like vyapar.in ( business ), udhaar.in ( loan ) and nilami.in ( Auction ).

I have had 2 enquiries on these one but none worth talking about on others that are very generic and get decent traffic.

It just seems like I will have to deal with the fact these won't sell anytime soon.

-=DCG=-

[Gerry]

Seriously, unless it is an ultimo primo name, it is hard to visualize a strong market for non hindi, urdu, and other dialects.

I look at the strong cc markets of Germany and Netherlands as a comparison. German and Dutch words in those extension are the ultimo primo words, those that are language specific and have meaning to the entire population. Yes, there are English speakers among all these nations. But these two specific ccTLD's is not a broad sales platform for English words. If you were to get your hands on a copy of the most commonly used English language words and look at the top 100, I think perhaps only a fraction of those words would be in demand as a ccTLD.

Another oddity (or phenom) of all of this ccTLD business, is some countries (like those I referenced) are so heavily using their own words.cctld that is is getting extremely difficult to sell even a good foreign language dot com. A while back I had many exceptionally prime dutch dot coms. I have several great working relationships with Dutch domainers that when I contacting them regarding the domains, every single one responded they were not interested but IF it was an .nl and NOT a .com, then they would jump on it. They all agreed that they were great dutch words, but...

The point is, NOT all words are sellable in ALL markets and ALL tld's. How many of us have gotten numerous unwanted emails from our Chinese counterparts hocking a Englishword.cn or the Indian domainers pushing Englishword.in? Same principle applies to us, this side of the equation... not interested but IF it was a .com, perhaps...

So now it's time to contact Indian domainers and try to sell out Englishword domains? Just because its a dictionary english word? Well beyond the realm of anything remotely desirable in the Indian market?

Not all words apply to all languages which means not all words are applicable to all ccTLD's.

ccTLD's, in my opinion, is not really a gigantic speculative market for English speakers once you get beyond the 30 or so prime English words in any ccTLD.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule...but with more than 260 domain extensions available, how many do you think have a strong viable market for all that is Englishword.ccTLD?

[Adam Dicker]

German and Dutch words in those extension are the ultimo primo words, those that are language specific and have meaning to the entire population.

I agree that's why I went after Hindi .in names from the beginning, they have good traffic just nobody is interested in buying them.

-=DCG=-

[Gerry]

I only have a couple hindi that are high traffic and in demand (based on past offers)...an no one would believe that they are .mobi.

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I agree that's why I went after Hindi .in names from the beginning, they have good traffic just nobody is interested in buying them.

-=DCG=-

There's a couple of ways to look at this prospect...

First, India will soon overtake China as the most populous country on earth. So, you would think there would be a massive market.

But...

Secondly, .in and other ccTLD's are supposed to be going to IDN.IDN. So, is there really a massive market out there?

I honestly believe that many prospective buyers may be holding off on ccTLD's that are destined to become IDN.IDN. They may be leery of a short life on their investment.

[ecomindia]

Secondly, .in and other ccTLD's are supposed to be going to IDN.IDN. So, is there really a massive market out there?

I honestly believe that many prospective buyers may be holding off on ccTLD's that are destined to become IDN.IDN. They may be leery of a short life on their investment.

But is that confirmed (IDN-IDN)? if yes, where can i read more about it?
I have sold few recently in low $xxx to mid $xxx and bought few in same range with few at low $xxxx (private sales)

Currently in the domestic market, I reall am surprised with the .in awareness of Indian Corporates, that Schools & institutes, Companies and Organizations, Marketing Campaigns and Promotions, all are majorly using indian Cctlds...

[mediawizard]

Adam, I'm in the market for strong generic .ins, but obviously at reseller prices, though I've seen your portfolio, it's time will come.

In the meantime, don't expect any decent sales on the forums, get in touch with companies advertising for said keywords in India.

Just my 0.02

[katherine]

I sold a LLL.in once (for mid-$$$).
I don't own a lot of .in, I think it's not a very lively extension (from a domainer POV). Perhaps if you are in for the very long term.

[mediawizard]

I'm heavily into .in and everything I've learnt in the last 23 years in advertising in India tells me its the right direction, nothing I've seen in the last five years makes me believe otherwise.

Secondly, .in and other ccTLD's are supposed to be going to IDN.IDN. So, is there really a massive market out there?

I honestly believe that many prospective buyers may be holding off on ccTLD's that are destined to become IDN.IDN. They may be leery of a short life on their investment.

Idn.idn won't make a dent on .in, not for the forseeable future.

I don't think anyone is holding off on ccTLDs in India hoping or waiting for the idn.idn 'wave' to hit, those who are will be sorely disappointed.

[Adam Dicker]

In the meantime, don't expect any decent sales on the forums, get in touch with companies advertising for said keywords in India.

ok, Good advice, thanks.
I am willing to be a bit more patient on these.

-=DCG=-

[ecomindia]

and i have to be a bit more patient then you adam!!!
have too many .net.in, .co.in as compared to .ins!!

btw, if anyone of you do not know what indian law says,
what have been the disputes in indian courts ... just look at below link.

i found it few days back and trust me, u gonna love it...
http://lnav.wordpress.com/

this is not my site or anyways attached to me...

[Jagusa]

Though this is an old thread, it may be worth reexamining the topic....

Personally, my highest quality .in names seem to get the most queries from domainers, expat Indians, American startups, and one multinational -- in that order. My group's .in holdings of ~100 domains are mostly very short English words-- and several make sense as two word phrases (ie. "dip in"). We generally have not marketed them and in fact have text that discourages offers (we use most of them), but the few sales have sustained the fees for the others. We have slowly been culling the unused names and those that never have received offers.

[ImageAuthors]

Hi, Adam and everybody

Yesterday I posted in a different thread about .in; and, since my observations are relevant here, I'm going to just copy and paste:


I doubt anybody would contradict me if I said that .in is still a speculative venture. There are great domainers who have decided to opt out of investing in .in right now. Personally, though, I think that, sooner or later it's inevitable that India will overtake many other English-speaking economies; and that means a bigger online presence--complete with English-language domains. Elsewhere on DNForum I quoted some statistics on India (look up w4w.in, w4m.in, m4w.in or else the wikipedia article if you're interested). Basically, do you know what the ratio of English speakers in America is compared to those in India? It's 2 to 1. That means that India has more English speakers than the UK, or Canada, or Australia--which makes sense given India's huge population and history as a British colony. And it's not as if India isn't developing! Probably 1 in 4 students in the Electrical Engineering or Computer Science department at my university were from India. And the professors too. To me all this sounds like a recipe for future online growth and domain investment. Over a billion people ... Whose educated class speaks fluent English ... With Indian newspapers published in English ... Where other economies are outsourcing their computer and tech work ... It stands to reason that Indians will be searching the internet for cars, doctors, jet skis, funeral homes, interior decorators, you name it. And there is only one Jobs.in to be divided between a billion plus people. Supply and demand ...

That's my opinion, of course.

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My prediction is that Indian domainers--whether they're citizens of India, the USA, Canada, or the UK--will realize what a huge opportunity there is for developing lead-generation sites in India. People in India who already work with computers or online will discover this and decide to build an empire by getting in early. But "early" probably means some time during the next 2-10 years.

Where was the domain industry in the USA 10 years ago?



P.S. Adam or anybody else, if you'd like ME to be your resale market for .in, send me a list of what you've got.

[dnfuser1234567]

I have been picking up a few gems within the past year in .in. I now have close to 150 .ins and my outlook is a 12 to 20 year turn window. That window is huge, but I feel to get the most return on these investments that I need to have a long term mindset. I have also found some promising real estate related affiliate offerings in India. With its population size and growth, these jewels may turn into great assets! Also, I see many .ins being parked and technically that is against the law there. It is best to develop a mini site and have google adsense running on it - with NO TEXT that indicates the domain is for sale.

I feel investors with long term mindsets will reap the rewards of investing into .in.

[Jagusa]

...I now have close to 150 .ins and my outlook is a 12 to 20 year turn window. That window is huge, but I feel to get the most return on these investments that I need to have a long term mindset...

Seems to be a huge risk against the $18,000-$30,000 needed to keep your domains funded in that term -- particularly given the regulatory (unfriendly to domainers) environment of India. I'd be interested in strategizing (getting others' thoughts) about India domaining opportunities that would work in the shorter term, say 12-48 months.