Academic Research Domain Sales

[olebean]

Hi Guys,

Those of you that are aware of me, know I'm a researcher at a UK University.

ATM I'm looking at change, if any, from the registration fee and value of domain names when sold / resold / purchased.

If anyone can help, I'd be interested primarily in verifiable sales, preferably domain names that have sold more than once. Privacy is assured!!

PM me with further details!

[Doc Com]

Great to see you again.

Question: What level student? Is this a master's thesis?

Will you be able to publish results?

I have not seen such information previously compiled.

Would be a good indicator for these economic conditions.

[PRED]

great to see you ole!
how you been?

[olebean]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Great to see you again.
Question: What level student? Is this a master's thesis?
Will you be able to publish results?
I have not seen such information previously compiled.
Would be a good indicator for these economic conditions.

Ditto, nice to see you as well!

I Lecture and I'm doing a PhD..

This research is not part of my PhD, the results will be written for an academic journal.

Originally Posted by PRED

great to see you ole!
how you been?

haha you too Pred!

It's really busy! How' things with you!

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by olebean

Ditto, nice to see you as well!

I Lecture and I'm doing a PhD..

This research is not part of my PhD, the results will be written for an academic journal.

Keep us posted on the results.

And your PhD is in what???

[olebean]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Keep us posted on the results.

And your PhD is in what???

The PhD is on Valuing Intangibles..


If you or anyone can assist in sourcing that too would be appreciated! I'll be around here researching for years!!

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by olebean

The PhD is on Valuing Intangibles..

If you or anyone can assist in sourcing that too would be appreciated! I'll be around here researching for years!!

WOW! What a topic and I understand the lack of information.

Not sure what direction you are going in, but you may want to contact someone at PayPal to discuss their policies. PayPal will not refund nor investigate a domain name sale issue because of PayPal's "intangible" (non-tangible) policies.

This has been their policy for a long as I can remember.

If they do not investigate...if they do not refund...then why do they accept payment for such goods?

As a facilitator of payment for goods, one would think that there should (or would be) some accountability. I know it is hard to prove non-receipt of intangible goods (downloadable program, ebook, domain name). But to not even investigate?

One would think that if the claimant stated they did not receive the product then the burden of proof would shift to the seller side. Totally whacked from a tort point of view. The total opposite.

Still, it may be worthwhile to speak to someone at PayPal. Changing or adopting a new policy similar to escrow.com (both parties are satisfied before funds are released) would offer some assurances. PayPal could benefit even more if such a policy were adopted.

Just a thought.

[biggedon]

Originally Posted by olebean

Hi Guys,

Those of you that are aware of me, know I'm a researcher at a UK University.

ATM I'm looking at change, if any, from the registration fee and value of domain names when sold / resold / purchased.

If anyone can help, I'd be interested primarily in verifiable sales, preferably domain names that have sold more than once. Privacy is assured!!

PM me with further details!

all you have to do is watch the backorders of domains that are dropping

at one time or another they were all bought, either at registration fee or some other amount above that.

when they get backordered, auctioned and paid for, then they fit your criteria.


others would be names that are flipped back and forth among resellers

i would say a little more than 60% of LLL/LL or NNN/NN .com .net .org and .info domains would probably fit that category also


you can go back and read some old threads from 2002 to the present, to guage the increases in prices overtime for those type of names

[URLtrader]

For sales that already took place you may visit namebio.com or dnsaleprice.com

[olebean]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

WOW! What a topic and I understand the lack of information.

Not sure what direction you are going in, but you may want to contact someone at PayPal to discuss their policies. PayPal will not refund nor investigate a domain name sale issue because of PayPal's "intangible" (non-tangible) policies.

This has been their policy for a long as I can remember.

If they do not investigate...if they do not refund...then why do they accept payment for such goods?

As a facilitator of payment for goods, one would think that there should (or would be) some accountability. I know it is hard to prove non-receipt of intangible goods (downloadable program, ebook, domain name). But to not even investigate?

One would think that if the claimant stated they did not receive the product then the burden of proof would shift to the seller side. Totally whacked from a tort point of view. The total opposite.

Still, it may be worthwhile to speak to someone at PayPal. Changing or adopting a new policy similar to escrow.com (both parties are satisfied before funds are released) would offer some assurances. PayPal could benefit even more if such a policy were adopted.

Just a thought.

I'm aware issues exist in transfering funds between parties during DN sales, it's outside my current research.

Originally Posted by biggedon

all you have to do is watch the backorders of domains that are dropping

at one time or another they were all bought, either at registration fee or some other amount above that.

when they get backordered, auctioned and paid for, then they fit your criteria.
others would be names that are flipped back and forth among resellers
i would say a little more than 60% of LLL/LL or NNN/NN .com .net .org and .info domains would probably fit that category also
you can go back and read some old threads from 2002 to the present, to guage the increases in prices overtime for those type of names

There are several issues here:

• Organisational management and recognition of Domains.
• Transfer between resellers.
• Transfer between reseller and enduser.
• Most importantly, method of data collection.

Example of what I need: Seller, registered the domain xxxx.xxx for $XX in whatever year, they have a reciept as prove IF needed. They sold the domain for $whatever to an enduser in ?? year, and have evidence IF needed.

Originally Posted by URLtrader

For sales that already took place you may visit namebio.com or dnsaleprice.com

I'm aware of these, they don't mention reg fee which makes things very difficult!

[Mind]

"The PhD is on Valuing Intangibles.." - You gain my attention. Can you show some papers or similar of you research. I am also interested in valuing intangibles regardless my PhD was on other subjects.

[PRED]

i'll have a root through for a few of mine for you mate

in meantime, i take it you have seen ricks latest sale?

http://www.dnforum.com/f17/candy-com...ad-357193.html

an interesting one as he shares a lot of info on his blog, plus we know purchase price, sales price, plus profit share etc

hundreds of people can give regfee to xxxx sales from handregges or drops, myself included, loads of times, on here

but this particular sale and info you could write a chapter on.
maybe you will ole?

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by PRED

in meantime, i take it you have seen ricks latest sale?

The blog post by Rick is a MUST READ for any serious domainers.

http://www.ricksblog.com/my_weblog/2...ycom-deal.html

After reading, if someone can not take away key points in issues in how to approach, negotiate, respond - then that person needs to seriously consider bagging groceries.

Clearly defines the distinctions between The Domain Business vs The Business of Domaining as well as the Art Of Domaining, all topics I posted months ago on DNhop.

Originally Posted by olebean

ATM I'm looking at change, if any, from the registration fee and value of domain names when sold / resold / purchased.

Have you attempted to approach Rick, Frank, or Kevin?

Ideally, these are a few of the top names that run their domaining ventures as a business.

Not sure about the response or cooperation you would get as there are some very closely held accounts.

[dn-101]

There is a good man in Lisbon by the name Jose Alvarez who's doing a similar research on domain valuation.
He's running a free domain valuation site idn.bz which attracts a large following.

[olebean]

Originally Posted by Mind

"The PhD is on Valuing Intangibles.." - You gain my attention. Can you show some papers or similar of you research. I am also interested in valuing intangibles regardless my PhD was on other subjects.

I have a few publications out in the area in September, you'll be more than welcome to read them

Originally Posted by PRED

i'll have a root through for a few of mine for you mate

in meantime, i take it you have seen ricks latest sale?

http://www.dnforum.com/f17/candy-com...ad-357193.html

an interesting one as he shares a lot of info on his blog, plus we know purchase price, sales price, plus profit share etc

hundreds of people can give regfee to xxxx sales from handregges or drops, myself included, loads of times, on here

but this particular sale and info you could write a chapter on.
maybe you will ole?

Thanks mate,

I had seen it!

I can't say how this research fits, but it is for a paper I want to submit early next year..

Originally Posted by Doc Com

The blog post by Rick is a MUST READ for any serious domainers.

http://www.ricksblog.com/my_weblog/2...ycom-deal.html

After reading, if someone can not take away key points in issues in how to approach, negotiate, respond - then that person needs to seriously consider bagging groceries.

Clearly defines the distinctions between The Domain Business vs The Business of Domaining as well as the Art Of Domaining, all topics I posted months ago on DNhop.

Have you attempted to approach Rick, Frank, or Kevin?

Ideally, these are a few of the top names that run their domaining ventures as a business.

Not sure about the response or cooperation you would get as there are some very closely held accounts.

I read his blog, it makes very interesting reading!! It's on my agenda to contact direct!

Originally Posted by dn-101

There is a good man in Lisbon by the name Jose Alvarez who's doing a similar research on domain valuation.
He's running a free domain valuation site idn.bz which attracts a large following.

Thanks, I want to steer away from IDN for now I have logged it!

[icen2345]

Originally Posted by URLtrader

For sales that already took place you may visit namebio.com or dnsaleprice.com

Or dndatabase.com , a new database which I recently finished building

[myst woman]

is it true when domainers are about to die rick latona flashes before their eyes?