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[PREDATOR]

Originally Posted by cybertonic

Linkguy:
Good comment.
This is why most of the online large furniture stores have this keyword into their meta tag, attesting of the high interest.

Varchar:
Bad point.
Do you really think someone that spend thousands dollars is enough stupid to pay a fortune a domain and do not buy the plural version still unregistered?
Didn't you think there was a reason?
The plural version is far to be a Premium Domain.
We was just speaking before that one cannot know about everything and without any information not only you register the dot com plural but worst, you go and also buy the .net and .info of a name that have very low interest in the com version.
It's terrible! We are spending thousands dollars advertising a service to help people like you to know if a domain is premium or no for free and you do not even get advantage of this.

jasdon:
The mobi version is not premium due the term is not enough popular.
But well, have the .mobi can make sense in the future if the buyer plan to focus mobile users through a dedicated interface. You have some possible chances to buy him further.

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i think if you check jasdon's posts. he actually said what is 'entertainment furniture' like most of us.
therefore he is unlikely to go out & reg the mobi LOL
READ his post, he is stating it 'was' regged today & finding it funny. People always do this, go out & reg the other extensions.
It's a really niche term. The seller got lucky. It's a crap domain but every name has an enduser. They found each other, simple as.

I agree with you on the plural version. Just ridiculous. For the simple fact in English 'Furniture' is plural & singular. There is no such thing as Furnitures. Unless your name is Borat!
Pred

[dnalias]

businesshotel.com went for 14k today, similar ovt result to entertainmentfurniture.com but more of a premium domain due to multiple factors, length, industry, etc.
correct cybertonic?
should be on next weeks dnjournal list.
14k is nothing, a legit hotel spends 14k a year to have the brass in the lobby polished.

[PREDATOR]

Originally Posted by dnalias

a legit hotel spends 14k a year to have the brass in the lobby polished.

you're talking hookers right? LOL
Pred

[acesfull]

A "premium domain" is one that sells for a big price.

You'll never get a big price, if you don't ask a big price.

[Creature]

Originally Posted by PREDATOR

I agree with you on the plural version. Just ridiculous. For the simple fact in English 'Furniture' is plural & singular. There is no such thing as Furnitures. Unless your name is Borat!
Pred

FYI: entertainmentfurnishings.com has not been registered. That's the plural isn't it? I guess I am dropping cash in the street with that info. What the hell.

[cybertonic]

DNAlias:

businesshotel.com is also Premium Domain but with a lower value than entertainmentfurniture.com
In fact it's part of the lower premium names.

If I need to do a business trip to Boston and I am searching an hotel then I will certainly search:
Boston hotel
Boston business hotel (maybe)
business hotel (low chances)
But the searches are so high for keywords based in "hotel" that even "business hotel" is a popular search, but not as popular as "entertainment furniture".

Acesfull:
What you say is true.
"If you don't ask a big price, then yes you will never sell at big price."
Now if you want a big price of something that should not cost a big price then your sales chances are low/null.

Creature,

Register: entertainmentfurnishing.com an entertainmentfurnishings.com
You will do the same great deal that varchar has done, LOL.

[Keyword Factory]

Originally Posted by cybertonic

Elivate,

Look likes you better know about narcotics then furniture.
This is the big problem, one is good to valuate names in the few sectors he knows...

"Entertainment Furniture" is a popular keyword.
Really over the minimum for which a domain can be considered as Premium according the PremiumDomain.com definition.

GoPC
I will soon publish all the domains sold over 10K so you could check yourself that +87% are in fact premium according the PremiumDomain.com definition.

Last thing:
The Premium Domain definition is only based in DOMAIN metrics, there is absolutely no personal considerations during the certification process.

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In my opinion it doesn't matter how good the keywords are, a domain with 23 letter is not a premium domain. it is a decent domain and I would buy it if it were cheap but something that cannot be typed in without a huge chance of a typo is not premium in my book.

[dnalias]

Originally Posted by PREDATOR

you're talking hookers right? LOL
Pred

yes i'm talking about hookers, i think pred is talking about hookers also.

Originally Posted by acesfull

A "premium domain" is one that sells for a big price.

You'll never get a big price, if you don't ask a big price.

all this hooker and big price talk sparked an idea, but someone already thought of it.
http://domainpimp.com/
is this person on this board?

[Creature]

Originally Posted by cybertonic

If I need to do a business trip to Boston and I am searching an hotel then I will certainly search:
Boston hotel

Thanks for the reminder of BostonHotel. I shouldn't have let that one drop!

I would be interested to see the course of negotiating for entertainmentfurniture.com. Buy Domains usually seem happy to drop asking price.

Do you rate entertainmentfurniture.com as a big 'Type In' domain or is the value more in the keywords?

[dnalias]

Originally Posted by cybertonic

DNAlias:

businesshotel.com is also Premium Domain but with a lower value than entertainmentfurniture.com
In fact it's part of the lower premium names.

If I need to do a business trip to Boston and I am searching an hotel then I will certainly search:
Boston hotel
Boston business hotel (maybe)
business hotel (low chances)
But the searches are so high for keywords based in "hotel" that even "business hotel" is a popular search, but not as popular as "entertainment furniture".

Acesfull:
What you say is true.
"If you don't ask a big price, then yes you will never sell at big price."
Now if you want a big price of something that should not cost a big price then your sales chances are low/null.

Creature,

Register: entertainmentfurnishing.com an entertainmentfurnishings.com
You will do the same great deal that varchar has done, LOL.

Got it cybertonic, give us feedback on this sale when you get a chance.

NorthCarolinaFurniture.com sold for $8600 last September.
Not sure if everyone knows, but NC is THE hub for furniture wholesalers/manufacturers/importers, etc.
Yes its long 22 letters, but the OVT results are 5x the previously discussed domains.

[carlton]

Originally Posted by dnalias

NorthCarolinaFurniture.com sold for $8600 last September.
Not sure if everyone knows, but NC is THE hub for furniture wholesalers/manufacturers/importers, etc.

True. High Point is home to the International Home Furnishings Market.

[D'same]

According to Google keyword tool advertiser competition for the keyword phrase "entertainment furniture" is very high while search volume is average...

So if advertisers are clamoring for the search term "entertainment furniture" then can't this be one of the reasons for the high price....?

And it is niche...the trend of the future in marketing...

[GoPC]

Originally Posted by cybertonic

GoPC
I will soon publish all the domains sold over 10K so you could check yourself that +87% are in fact premium according the PremiumDomain.com definition.

So you are saying that you agree that 13% of the domains that sold for a premium price are "crap"?

You also agree that since a domain has a high Google Search Value that it, due to this value, makes it a Premium domain?

Can you then explain they numerous people that have been rejected by your process having domains with just exactly that?

You and your people are so arbitrary. I pesonally have had domains shot down by your "professional" consideration that have written appraisals for $60K, $150K... domains up to darn near $500K that YOU have said were CRAP.

As well as others here. It reminds me of the Joker, in Batman, where he flips thourgh Vicki's Pulitzer Prize winning photos... "crap, crap, crap, crap... ahh..." as he finds one of a mutilated and twisted body.. "this, I like!".

searches with "Entertainment Furniture" gets up to 45 visits per day says google, while...

"Bedroom Furniture" gets 7600+
"office Furniture" gets 2500+
and even "Patio Furniture" gets 1388+

45 is not premium. 7600 is premium.

What's true is that any old somebody can come out with a fancy website and say "I'm an expert"... what's also true is that the proof is in the pudding.

GoPC

[Terminator]

The buyer of the domain could very well be looking to develop it and promote it himself, and doesnt care about what traffic its getting now. If I was in the business of selling standard or custom furniture that targets the Home theater market, I would'nt mind paying the 18K. (if I could afford it)

If any of you have gone to a Electronics convention, you would walk out of there with a long list of domains to reg, (if they were available), but since most of us havent and were not in that industry, some assume the domain is crap.......Like I said before, its a niche domain.

[jazzpetals]

It's easy to call a name a premium domain once it has sold for over 10,000.

[cybertonic]

GoPC:

Look likes you are part of these people who are frustrated to not have get some your domains certified as Premium.
Almost funny when after you complaint saying the minimum search popularity level of the term composing the domain to be considered as Premium is low.
What do you want, we be more elistist?

Well I respond to your questions:

- Yes, 13% of the domains that has been sold over 10K do not match our premium domain definition. In these 13% there was some domains not based in english words (we only certify english domains).

- If a domain submitted for certification match the Premium Domain definition then it cannot be rejected, except exceptionnal errors.
If you estimate it has been the case for some of your domains then send me the list and they will be reviewed again.

- Caution with some appraisal services, I recently posted in a forum a comparative of such services. Results can have a huge difference and sometimes simply be absurd.

- Like I allways repeat, we simply check if a domain match the premium domain definition. Nothing more or less. We do not pretend to be experts nor we provide appraisals.

- Trust me, I will prefer we certify more domains as premium.


JazzPetals:
We have not named a domain Premium because it was sold +10K.
We have taken all these domains sold over 10K and submitted them for certification. 87% of them matched our premium domain definition.

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[Devil Dog]

Originally Posted by GoPC

What's true is that any old somebody can come out with a fancy website and say "I'm an expert"... what's also true is that the proof is in the pudding.

GoPC

Ding Ding Ding.. agree 100%.

[cybertonic]

I will also say:

The most difficult is establish the frontier between the domains that are premium or no.
When the scoring of a domain is high or very low there is no problem and people can easily admit our decision.
When a domain is just in the frontier is when people are frustated or complaint. I may understand.
But we are strict:
There is a minimum limit for which a domain is no longer considered as Premium and even if a domain is really near and the owner complaint, we do not change our decision. Otherwise we will lost our credibility.

Regarding GoPC I just looked at your profile and remember now having exchanged a pair of mails with you few months ago.
Your domain score is just under this 300 terrrible limit for gopc.com

Now I have an optimistic note for you and many people in the same case:
In February we plan a scoring update.
Basically the domain readability (length, syllables) will be more influent in the domain score calculation.
To better understand, this means that basically shorter domains will gain more points while long will lose.
What should happen is that short domains near the 300 frontier should become premium, the inverse should also happen.
All the submitted domains will be reviewed again after this update.

This is a good proof we are not considering us as experts, and that we also learn everyday and try to improve the valuation to can offer you a premium domain certification of quality.

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[jasdon11]

Originally Posted by dnalias

a legit hotel spends 14k a year to have the brass in the lobby polished.

I can hear the 'phone conversation now;

"no dear, I'm not going out - I'm just going to stay in my hotel room and polish the brasses"


Just to get this straight - no-one's gonna say info1.com is premium are they ?