Year's First 7-Figure Sale Tops New Weekly Domain Sales Report at DNJournal.com

[Banned: broe-foe]

I sense there has been tension here that didnt start with this weeks report....

Really though to put someone down simply because you do not like the people he photographs or reports on is not fair. He doesn't chose who runs what he simply reports it, well and offers a list each week he does on his own time. It is clear you have issues with other's but dont kill the messenger.

Well, if you read the previous posts, you'll see I initially merely corrected username actnow when he/she stated there was no sales info until dnjournal.com came on to the scene. I stated, "That's not true ...", and the heated exchange began shortly thereafter.

I'm not out to "kill the messenger", but I'd like the messengers to get the story straight.

[TheLegendaryJP]

Well, if you read the previous posts, you'll see I initially merely corrected username actnow when he/she stated there was no sales info until dnjournal.com came on to the scene. I stated, "That's not true ...", and the heated exchange began shortly thereafter.

I'm not out to "kill the messenger", but I'd like the messengers to get the story straight.

I understand where you are coming from to a degree, most who know anything about the industry probably do... and be honest most go along never saying anything because yes we have vested interests beyond exposing and finger pointing.

I just dont feel we need to expect Ron to be the judge, jury an executioner. Ron is a smart guy and to be honest it is sometimes the smartest thing to say nothing at all if you follow me.

If you disagree with how Ron goes about his business that's fine but in turn feel free to name names yourself. I bet you wont because again..we all have vested interest to degrees and hints are usually as far as we take anything ( myself included ).

[Banned: broe-foe]

If you disagree with how Ron goes about his business that's fine but in turn feel free to name names yourself. I bet you wont because again..we all have vested interest to degrees and hints are usually as far as we take anything ( myself included ).

I'm happy to name names, as I have before. However, the last time I named names in this forum I was banned because one of the names I named hit too close to home. How's that for swarmy?

[TheLegendaryJP]

I'm happy to name names, as I have before. However, the last time I named names in this forum I was banned because one of the names I named hit too close to home. How's that for swarmy?

see...your interest is not getting banned

Have to take the good with what we perceive as the bad and know when and where to say certain things.

For example I was at one time a member of Rick's board, I was told by him I " didnt fit " , I did nothing wrong, wasn't vulgar, insulting or even wrong it what I stated.. I just didnt fit and you know why? I simply stated my opinion on certain swarmy tactics I saw without even naming names..in fact I used the word " sharks " and that was enough for him and perhaps the indivdual whp PM'd him. I said no problem Rick, take care. When I look back on it as it was years ago I may now hold my tongue, not because my opinion changed on issues but rather I lost touch with people, access as it were to them. Obviously it hasnt affected me much at all but it is a necessary evil to remain connected or maybe a better word is accepted. Just goes with success in this business. That is why expecting Ron to not just report the confrence he was just at but turn around and also point out what may be perceived as swarmy tactics is not reasonable. If Ron wants to continue his passion for the industry and the reporting it is simply an area he can choose to avoid. He is under no obligation again to be a voice for anyone.

[Banned: broe-foe]

see...your interest is not getting banned

My interest is getting value for my $12.50.

2) Regarding "swarmy" characters, I have no idea what you are talking about since there is no such word as swarmy.

Here ya' go Ron. Now a good journalist would print a retraction of the ridicule you posted after learning a new word from someone whom with you don't see eye-to-eye.

smarmy

Main Entry: smarmy
Pronunciation: \ˈsmär-mē\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): smarm·i·er; smarm·i·est
Etymology: smarm to gush, slobber
Date: 1924
1 : revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness <a tone of smarmy self-satisfaction — New Yorker>
2 : of low sleazy taste or quality <smarmy eroticism>
— smarm·i·ly \-mə-lē\ adverb
— smarm·i·ness \-mē-nəs\ noun

Now you know. Swarmy = sleazy, smug.

[RTM.net]

smarmy

Main Entry: smarmy
(snip)
Now you know. Swarmy = sleazy, smug.

Now that we're on the grammatical tip, are you discussing smarmy or swarmy ? The reference presented discusses the term smarmy, yet you refer to swarmy ?

Since this is a domaining forum:

smarmy is taken in most of the major TLDs, yet swarmy is only gone in the .com TLD and was dropped in the .net one.



Rob, in before the lock...

[actnow]

Here ya' go Ron. Now a good journalist would print a retraction of the ridicule you posted after learning a new word from someone whom with you don't see eye-to-eye.

Boy, you just want to keep this going and going.

I now see where this animosity started toward DNJ about 5 months ago.
It appears it is one sided.

http://www.dnforum.com/f521/rogues-g...ad-331387.html

[Banned: broe-foe]

Now that we're on the grammatical tip, are you discussing smarmy or swarmy ? The reference presented discusses the term smarmy, yet you refer to swarmy ?

Since this is a domaining forum:

smarmy is taken in most of the major TLDs, yet swarmy is only gone in the .com TLD and was dropped in the .net one.



Rob, in before the lock...

1. Swarmy
a sleazy, sneaky, sweaty, unscrupulous person.


swarmy
adj
1. Exhibiting characteristics both swarthy and smarmy; a dirty snob.

[Duke]

1. Swarmy
a sleazy, sneaky, sweaty, unscrupulous person.

Below is from the Urban Dictionary, from the exact same page cited in your quote:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Swarmy


2. swarmy

Person who is ignorant of the English language misspelling of word SMARMY, which means highly self-satisfied.

Erin was uneducated and didn't read so she thought there was an actual word called SWARMY.


How incredibly apropos.

Boy, you just want to keep this going and going.

I now see where this animosity started toward DNJ about 5 months ago.
It appears it is one sided.

http://www.dnforum.com/f521/rogues-g...ad-331387.html

Ah, that explains a lot. I never saw that thread because I was traveling that week (it was parent's weekend at my daughter's college - same weekend as the sedo Pro Forum that I had to miss because of the date conflict).

So Broe-foe has a customer service issue with Moniker and hates Monte and apparently everyone at the company (and also has as a strong dislike for Adam) and thinks it is my responsibility to share that hatred. Sorry, I am not built that way. Life is too short.

I am however truly sorry to hear when people have issues with each other like this, but I am not a third partry abritrator who gets in between two sides in a dispute. If I wanted to do that with my life I would have gone to work for the National Labor Relations Board or become a cop and gotten in the middle of domestic disputes. If you have a quarrel with someone, that's regrettable and I hope you can work it out with them, but I am not going to be dragged into these battles. There is enough conflict in the world already.

I wondered what all of the nasty comments from Broe Foe were about here and at another forum (where he is Hey Now). It is good know what the underlying cause is.

Broe-foe, hatred and anger will do nothing for you but eat you up from the inside out and you will never be happy as long as you let that into your life. I apologize for poking fun at you - seriously. I see that you are sincerely upset over the issues you posted about and if you can't resolve them with the people you have problems with I hope that you will eventually be able to let it go and move on. It will be like you've just taken a heavy chain off your neck. Believe me, been there, done that.

There is real truth in the old saying "to err is human, to forgive divine." It is not easy to do but when you forgive and move on, you free yourself from the debilitating emotions that eat away at you when you feel you have been wronged. Good luck to you.

[mark]

Below is from the Urban Dictionary, from the exact same page cited in your quote:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Swarmy


2. swarmy

Person who is ignorant of the English language misspelling of word SMARMY, which means highly self-satisfied.

Erin was uneducated and didn't read so she thought there was an actual word called SWARMY.


How incredibly apropos.



Ah, that explains a lot. I never saw that thread because I was traveling that week (it was parent's weekend at my daughter's college - same weekend as the sedo Pro Forum that I had to miss because of the date conflict).

So Broe-foe has a customer service issue with Moniker and hates Monte and apparently everyone at the company (and also has as a strong dislike for Adam) and thinks it is my responsibility to share that hatred. Sorry, I am not built that way. Life is too short.

I am however truly sorry to hear when people have issues with each other like this, but I am not a third partry abritrator who gets in between two sides in a dispute. If I wanted to do that with my life I would have gone to work for the National Labor Relations Board or become a cop and gotten in the middle of domestic disputes. If you have a quarrel with someone, that's regrettable and I hope you can work it out with them, but I am not going to be dragged into these battles. There is enough conflict in the world already.

I wondered what all of the nasty comments from Broe Foe were about here and at another forum (where he is Hey Now). It is good know what the underlying cause is.

Broe-foe, hatred and anger will do nothing for you but eat you up from the inside out and you will never be happy as long as you let that into your life. I apologize for poking fun at you - seriously. I see that you are sincerely upset over the issues you posted about and if you can't resolve them with the people you have problems with I hope that you will eventually be able to let it go and move on. It will be like you've just taken a heavy chain off your neck. Believe me, been there, done that.

There is real truth in the old saying "to err is human, to forgive divine." It is not easy to do but when you forgive and move on, you free yourself from the debilitating emotions that eat away at you when you feel you have been wronged. Good luck to you.

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Touche Ron, and hopefully that concludes this thread...

[nameadvertising.com]

No good deed goes unpunished.

Ron has single-handedly helped thousands of domainers, especially newbies become better domainers. So, if someone does not profit from the info because of some errors finds the right to piss off in public is not right. You can do that if Ron charges you a fee to subscribe.

And for the "swarmy characters" that infiltrate the journal, the NYT and CNN are full of it. Ron publishes domain sales and those who found success with it. They don't have to pass a character test to gain notoriety.

Ron is one of the few class acts on premises guys. Save your bashing for someone else.

[strongvis]

I'm sure Ron remembers in the old days back at his radio and tv jobs, there was this saying "If you don't like it, you can always change the channel"

[Onward]

Wow, I have had problems with people in the past, In this industry, but bringing a class act like Ron into the middle of the beef...just silly.

I have had the pleasure of meeting Ron at a few of the shows and I have to say...he is the most strait up, tell you like it is, genuine person around....I am sorry to see that he has had to deal with this nonsense.

[Acro]

Very true. When I met Ron for the first time at TRAFFIC / Orlando, after 6+ years of conversing online, he was the same genuine and honest person that his online persona projects. Ron puts a herculean effort into his Domain Name Journal each and every day. While errors might occur, I think it's unfair to cast him in unfavorable light because of personal feuds with domain personalities. Hey, I don't like Monte's tan either

[Duke]

I'm sure Ron remembers in the old days back at his radio and tv jobs, there was this saying "If you don't like it, you can always change the channel"

I do indeed, and unfortunately when I was on the air a lot of people used that option.

It's Sunday morning - a good time for a Sunday newspaper kind of post refelecting on this issue.

Broe-foe is not the first person who has gotten upset with someone and wanted me to tear the subject of their ire a new sphincter. However before anyone publicly criticizes someone or charges them with malfeasance, criminaility, failing to brush after a meal - whatever the case may be, that writer would have to do days, weeks and possibly even months of digging on that single issue to try to find out who is telling the truth before they could go public. After all of that they might find that the person making the complaint was the one in the wrong and the whole exercise was a waste of time. It takes a highly specialized kind of professional (not to mention a glutton for punishment) to take on that kind of drudgery.

I think this is the root of the problem - some people don't understand that the field of journalism and writing in general is, like most professions, sub-divided into many specialties and there are very few practicioners who cross the boundaries that separate those areas of expertise (just as you would not find a gynecologist doing heart surgery). There are general assignment reporters, feature writers, columnists (who write opinion pieces), investigative reporters, etc - and never the twain shall meet.

I spent most of my professional career in television (primarly sports reporting) covering what I always wanted to cover - people and major events. When I began writing about the domain business - my area of interest and expertise was, guess what - writing features about people and major events. I have a particular love of Horatio Alger type stories that inspire others and show them it is possible to make something great out of nothing (or even worse - out of disastrous circumstances). Occasionally there will be a reader who for one personal reason or another doesn't like the person featured and they will accuse me of confusing Al Capone for Horatio Alger. No matter what you write about, not everyone will agree with you. As far as I know, other than Saddam Hussein, no one has ever gotten 100% of the vote. It goes with the territory, so you accept that or stop writing what you believe.

I am not an investigative reporter. That is the most specialized job in journalism and good ones are very hard to find. Today most of the major print and electronic media outlets have just one (if that many) permanently on staff. That person may be given months to complete a single story. Even if I wanted to be in that part of the profession I don't have the luxury of spending that much time on one article - but that is what it takes to make sure you and your company are not sued into oblivion.

I purposely positioned DN Journal as a magazine - not a newspaper, because I knew I was going to focus on what I wanted to write about (especially since I wasn't getting paid anything to write it when I started!). That was features and analysis, not daily breaking news (though I do some of that in our daily Lowdown column now, primarily because a lot of news comes to me simply because I have made so many contacts in the industry). On the internet breaking news is everywhere in a split second so it is not as big a differentiator as it was in the old days of traditional media when there were only three TV stations in a given market and two newspapers.

When I started writing about domains over 6 years ago, there weren't many other "channels" to turn to. There was mostly just DNJ with its focus on features, domain sales and events. Today there are many more channels and that is a good thing. When Andrew Allemann started writing Domain Name Wire he filled in the daily news gap (and has also been doing some excellent investigative work in the past year - I know how challenging that is and admire him for that), Adam and Frank added Domain Name News to the mix and often go beyond breaking news to writing news as it happens (live blogging results from live auctions for example).

Then, to really fill in the landscape, along came all of the great blogs that did not exist when DNJ started. The best blog writers, like Michael Berkens at TheDomains.com, are like the featured columnists in newspapers. They have their own personal style, depth of experience and skill set that make them people you want to read every time they have a new "column" out. Rick Schwartz is another guy who fits the columnist mold to a tee - a real lightning rod, controversial and colorful - a unique brand of his own that attracts attention whether people personally love him or hate him.

Today, mirroring the phenomenal diversity of the Internet itself, all of the different journalistic specialties are spread out across multiple sites rather than under one monolithic roof in the way that the newspapers were structured. TV, through shows like 60 Minutes, have popularized investigative reporters like Mike Wallace, and some (who think everything they see on TV is reality) think that, hey, EVERY writer must do what Mike Wallace does! Not even close - not even 1% fill that kind of role. As our industry grows we will one day have one or more people who will devote all of their time to that. And that will be a good thing too.

[wussadotcom]

I do indeed, and unfortunately when I was on the air a lot of people used that option.

It's Sunday morning - a good time for a Sunday newspaper kind of post refelecting on this issue.

Broe-foe is not the first person who has gotten upset with someone and wanted me to tear the subject of their ire a new sphincter. However before anyone publicly criticizes someone or charges them with malfeasance, criminaility, failing to brush after a meal - whatever the case may be, that writer would have to do days, weeks and possibly even months of digging on that single issue to try to find out who is telling the truth before they could go public. After all of that they might find that the person making the complaint was the one in the wrong and the whole exercise was a waste of time. It takes a highly specialized kind of professional (not to mention a glutton for punishment) to take on that kind of drudgery.

I think this is the root of the problem - some people don't understand that the field of journalism and writing in general is, like most professions, sub-divided into many specialties and there are very few practicioners who cross the boundaries that separate those areas of expertise (just as you would not find a gynecologist doing heart surgery). There are general assignment reporters, feature writers, columnists (who write opinion pieces), investigative reporters, etc - and never the twain shall meet.

I spent most of my professional career in television (primarly sports reporting) covering what I always wanted to cover - people and major events. When I began writing about the domain business - my area of interest and expertise was, guess what - writing features about people and major events. I have a particular love of Horatio Alger type stories that inspire others and show them it is possible to make something great out of nothing (or even worse - out of disastrous circumstances). Occasionally there will be a reader who for one personal reason or another doesn't like the person featured and they will accuse me of confusing Al Capone for Horatio Alger. No matter what you write about, not everyone will agree with you. As far as I know, other than Saddam Hussein, no one has ever gotten 100% of the vote. It goes with the territory, so you accept that or stop writing what you believe.

I am not an investigative reporter. That is the most specialized job in journalism and good ones are very hard to find. Today most of the major print and electronic media outlets have just one (if that many) permanently on staff. That person may be given months to complete a single story. Even if I wanted to be in that part of the profession I don't have the luxury of spending that much time on one article - but that is what it takes to make sure you and your company are not sued into oblivion.

I purposely positioned DN Journal as a magazine - not a newspaper, because I knew I was going to focus on what I wanted to write about (especially since I wasn't getting paid anything to write it when I started!). That was features and analysis, not daily breaking news (though I do some of that in our daily Lowdown column now, primarily because a lot of news comes to me simply because I have made so many contacts in the industry). On the internet breaking news is everywhere in a split second so it is not as big a differentiator as it was in the old days of traditional media when there were only three TV stations in a given market and two newspapers.

When I started writing about domains over 6 years ago, there weren't many other "channels" to turn to. There was mostly just DNJ with its focus on features, domain sales and events. Today there are many more channels and that is a good thing. When Andrew Allemann started writing Domain Name Wire he filled in the daily news gap (and has also been doing some excellent investigative work in the past year - I know how challenging that is and admire him for that), Adam and Frank added Domain Name News to the mix and often go beyond breaking news to writing news as it happens (live blogging results from live auctions for example).

Then, to really fill in the landscape, along came all of the great blogs that did not exist when DNJ started. The best blog writers, like Michael Berkens at TheDomains.com, are like the featured columnists in newspapers. They have their own personal style, depth of experience and skill set that make them people you want to read every time they have a new "column" out. Rick Schwartz is another guy who fits the columnist mold to a tee - a real lightning rod, controversial and colorful - a unique brand of his own that attracts attention whether people personally love him or hate him.

Today, mirroring the phenomenal diversity of the Internet itself, all of the different journalistic specialties are spread out across multiple sites rather than under one monolithic roof in the way that the newspapers were structured. TV, through shows like 60 Minutes, have popularized investigative reporters like Mike Wallace, and some (who think everything they see on TV is reality) think that, hey, EVERY writer must do what Mike Wallace does! Not even close - not even 1% fill that kind of role. As our industry grows we will one day have one or more people who will devote all of their time to that. And that will be a good thing too.

Nice.. You sure can write.
Love your style of writing. Hope this thread does not demoralize you. Wouldn't want a "WTS - DNJ" thread next week.

[stevo]

Ron - Your efforts are highly appreciated. We are lucky that you do what you do.

[BGray]

This thread is maddening. You've handled it very well Ron.

+1 on wussa's comment

[jaydub]

Keep On Keepin' On Ron....

[nicedomains]

Ron - Your efforts are highly appreciated. We are lucky that you do what you do.

+1 HERE

Reading DNJ for over 5 years I have always assumed there was a margin of error for numbers and sales. This is to be expected and is forgivable when done unknowingly by mistake. As others have pointed out it is not Ron's job to do investigative reporting. He is putting the news out there plain and simple.

As for the feature articles he writes and who he writes them about in his magazine, that is his prerogative!