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    Thumbs up to ICA

    I know many among you - including me - have reservations about ICA.
    But I just want to say, kudos to ICA for standing up to the state of Kentucky in their pathetic attempt to step out of their jurisdiction and deprive law abiding domain owners of what is rightfully theirs.

    This is exactly what I would expect from a domainer lobby
    The need for a representative body is more than obvious in light of the current repressive climate toward domain owners and such attacks will definitely proliferate in the future...

    Domainers beware: the state of Kentucky wants to own you - and without KY

    PS: on a side note please take note of the registrars who caved in already, and are willing to dispose of your valuable names with no discussion. Then govern yourself accordingly.
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    I know eNom caved in and Moniker said no. Which other registrar responded?

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    Thanks!

    sdsinc,

    Thank you for the Kudos. I fully understand anyone having reservations about a startup association, especially one with so little funding, but I think we are making good progress. I hope we continue to do the right thing for our industry.

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    I know eNom caved in and Moniker said no. Which other registrar responded?
    Network Solutions was the only registrar to send representatives to defend its customers in Kentucky court. I will continue to keep the community informed about the Kentucky case at InternetCommerce.org. I also wrote quite a bit about it in a newsletter published this morning.

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    Michael! Nice to see you here!

    Very interesting info. Especially since NetSol stepped up the game. Hopefully other affected registrars will follow as well.

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    Numeric Domains is a member and will continue to support ICA's efforts.


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    Were any of the registrars involved companies incorporated outside the US? Using a registrar from outside the US could be safer in this type of situation (domains that might be related to gambling) I imagine.


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    I believe enom caved in, and godaddy recognized juridiction of the court which means they will do whatever they are told. Yes, using a non-US registrar would be safer unless they decide to go after the registry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkellerman View Post
    Were any of the registrars involved companies incorporated outside the US? Using a registrar from outside the US could be safer in this type of situation (domains that might be related to gambling) I imagine.
    Many US and non-US registrars received notices to seize domain names in this case. As far as I know, no registrar outside of the US has responded affirmatively to the order.

    I am not an attorney and this is not a legal opinion, just my personal rant. Consider it to be worth what you paid for it. If you are not a US citizen or resident, you may be able to avoid US jurisdiction by using an non-US registrar. However, it may be difficult for US citizens, residents and entities to avoid US jurisdiction by using an offshore registrar. Sure, the original court orders were sent to the registrar, but how hard do you think it will be for Kentucky to get the court to send an order to the registrant if the registrar refuses to acknowledge the authority of a US court?

    The best think that we can all do is stand together and oppose this unprecedented and dangerous ruling. ICA needs to prepare another amicus brief for the appeals court and it would be good if we could get an attorney to address the appeals court. We could use your help. Please join ICA as a member or if that is too great a commitment for you at this time, donations of any size are appreciated. Thank you.
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