Dotcom with dashes v dotnet without? - DNForum - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

**MAllie** · 06-18-2009, 01:12 PM

Which of these do you guys think is better, first from a domaining point of view and then from a development point of view?

XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com or XXXXXXXXXXXX.net

The name is a well-known three-word phrase that has 336,000,000 searches on Google.

**draggar** · 06-18-2009, 01:16 PM

Why not get both? It'll only be an extra $7-$10.

Use .com and point the .net to it.

**DomainName** · 06-18-2009, 01:25 PM

.net

either way the owner of the .com without dashed will receive some of your traffic.

**MAllie** · 06-18-2009, 01:33 PM

Thanks, Ed and DomainName.

Yes, I was thinking that getting both might be the best option.

**copper** · 06-18-2009, 01:37 PM

I would get both.

**draggar** · 06-18-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomainName

.net

either way the owner of the .com without dashed will receive some of your traffic.

True, but I think they would get more of her traffic if she uses & promotes the .net than with the hyphenated .com

Pink Misfit · 06-18-2009, 01:44 PM

I would purchase both. Develop the .net and point the .com. Im rather backwards.

**ecomindia** · 06-18-2009, 01:48 PM

both
XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com and XXXXXXXXXXXX.net

or
XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com + xxxxxxxx-xxxx.com + xxxxx-xxxxxxx.com ;-)

i still remember debating on hyphens from 2003 in one of the forums webmasterworld.. and expect i will discuss it in 2033 as welll

**MAllie** · 06-18-2009, 03:18 PM

Hmmm, thanks, everyone. Plenty of food for thought here. I've taken both the hyphenated dotcom and the nonhyphenated dotnet. I wonder if the others aren't a step too far.

I read somewhere recently that the search engine can sometimes even prefer the hyphenated dotcom over the nonhyphenated, as it's easier to make out the words, but I'm not sure if that was a wind-up. Does a computer read in the same way we do?

**draggar** · 06-18-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAllie

I read somewhere recently that the search engine can sometimes even prefer the hyphenated dotcom over the nonhyphenated, as it's easier to make out the words, but I'm not sure if that was a wind-up. Does a computer read in the same way we do?

In a nutshell - search engines only care about SEO. Keywords in the domain can help but it seems like you'll have this with both domains.

**copper** · 06-18-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAllie

I read somewhere recently that the search engine can sometimes even prefer the hyphenated dotcom over the nonhyphenated, as it's easier to make out the words, but I'm not sure if that was a wind-up. Does a computer read in the same way we do?

Early days, yes.
Not any more.

However, some European countries especially German like hyphenated domains.
At least that's what I heard

**sdsinc** · 06-18-2009, 05:26 PM

I would say it depends on how you intend to promote the domain.
If your approach is SEO-only then you don't care about the hyphen. Actually you don't care too much about the extension or the domain itself.
On the other hand if you want to do heavy branding, IMO it's a must to avoid the hyphen.

**ecomindia** · 06-19-2009, 11:47 AM

totally agree with kate .. websites do not care much about its name (not totally), good domain name in such cases is good 2 have, not must to have!

**MAllie** · 06-19-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsinc

If your approach is SEO-only then you don't care about the hyphen.

Thanks, that's most interesting. So this is a general guide to how to develop particular mini-sites - any hyphenated ones should be heavy on SEO, the others can be less so?

**aZooZa** · 06-19-2009, 06:39 PM

One hyphen is fine. Three keywords spread over two hyphens -- no so cool.

**james2002** · 06-19-2009, 06:40 PM

Neither.

Will try to get a .com without any hyphen.

**aZooZa** · 06-19-2009, 06:43 PM

Trying is the name of this game

**MAllie** · 06-20-2009, 04:39 AM

Exactly, Dale - easier said than done.

So, James, if you can't get the nonhyphenated dotcom, you'd go for the dotnet? Or you simply wouldn't bother?

**james2002** · 06-20-2009, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAllie

Exactly, Dale - easier said than done.

So, James, if you can't get the nonhyphenated dotcom, you'd go for the dotnet? Or you simply wouldn't bother?

I will try to buy an appropriate .com. If I go for .net, you are working hard for .com owner in a way.

You can always combine with "e, i , my , your, the, site, website " etc...

**MAllie** · 06-20-2009, 07:50 AM

Yes, I see that, James. But if you do a good job, isn't there a chance that after a few months your dotnet will come above the dotcom on the search engine? Unless people put the address straight into the bar, when that won't matter.

06-18-2009, 01:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
MAllie Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Monica Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 705 DNF$: 7,200 Location: Dublin, Ireland Country:	Dotcom with dashes v dotnet without? Which of these do you guys think is better, first from a domaining point of view and then from a development point of view? XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com or XXXXXXXXXXXX.net The name is a well-known three-word phrase that has 336,000,000 searches on Google. __________________ My Portfolio Last edited by MAllie; 06-18-2009 at 01:31 PM..

06-18-2009, 01:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Yesterday 08:09 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,330 DNF$: 331 Location: South Florida Country:	Why not get both? It'll only be an extra $7-$10. Use .com and point the .net to it. __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains

06-18-2009, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
DomainName Live, Eat, Breathe Names Last Online: Yesterday 09:55 PM iTrader: (19) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 808 DNF$: 88 Country:	.net either way the owner of the .com without dashed will receive some of your traffic. __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Until a new year 39 days 22 hours 22 minutes

06-18-2009, 01:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
MAllie Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Monica Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 705 DNF$: 7,200 Location: Dublin, Ireland Country:	Thanks, Ed and DomainName. Yes, I was thinking that getting both might be the best option. __________________ My Portfolio

06-18-2009, 01:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
copper CrossLogix.com Last Online: Yesterday 05:46 PM iTrader: (65) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,245 DNF$: 2,179 Location: Matthews, NC. U	I would get both. __________________ Domain Names For Sale

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Pink Misfit Gotta love the &amp;quot;Pink&amp;quo t; Name: Melissa Last Online: 11-20-2009 04:08 AM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,839 DNF$: 4,130 Location: in a house Country:	I would purchase both. Develop the .net and point the .com. Im rather backwards. __________________ Check Out My Site Currently doing logos for $25.

06-18-2009, 01:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
ecomindia Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Dipendra Srivastava Last Online: 11-19-2009 11:56 AM iTrader: (18) Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 809 DNF$: 1,492 Location: Ghaziabad,India Country:	both XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com and XXXXXXXXXXXX.net or XXXXX-XXX-XXXX.com + xxxxxxxx-xxxx.com + xxxxx-xxxxxxx.com ;-) i still remember debating on hyphens from 2003 in one of the forums webmasterworld.. and expect i will discuss it in 2033 as welll __________________ Buying your expiring .net.in, .co.in, .in cctld. OFFER NOW . Bought 63+ domains already!

06-18-2009, 03:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
MAllie Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Monica Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 705 DNF$: 7,200 Location: Dublin, Ireland Country:	Hmmm, thanks, everyone. Plenty of food for thought here. I've taken both the hyphenated dotcom and the nonhyphenated dotnet. I wonder if the others aren't a step too far. I read somewhere recently that the search engine can sometimes even prefer the hyphenated dotcom over the nonhyphenated, as it's easier to make out the words, but I'm not sure if that was a wind-up. Does a computer read in the same way we do? __________________ My Portfolio

06-18-2009, 05:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Yesterday 06:42 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,667 DNF$: 28,093 Location: .cz Country:	I would say it depends on how you intend to promote the domain. If your approach is SEO-only then you don't care about the hyphen. Actually you don't care too much about the extension or the domain itself. On the other hand if you want to do heavy branding, IMO it's a must to avoid the hyphen. __________________ VeryOldNames.com

06-19-2009, 11:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
ecomindia Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Dipendra Srivastava Last Online: 11-19-2009 11:56 AM iTrader: (18) Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 809 DNF$: 1,492 Location: Ghaziabad,India Country:	totally agree with kate .. websites do not care much about its name (not totally), good domain name in such cases is good 2 have, not must to have! __________________ Buying your expiring .net.in, .co.in, .in cctld. OFFER NOW . Bought 63+ domains already!

06-19-2009, 06:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
aZooZa Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 04:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,874 DNF$: 5,869 Location: Exeter, UK Country:	One hyphen is fine. Three keywords spread over two hyphens -- no so cool. __________________ UK Drop Catching Services: Dropsystem.co.uk New! Canada TBR Drop Catching: Dropping.ca New! QUALITY MiniSites: NOTsoMINI.com

06-19-2009, 06:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
james2002 DeliciousNames.com Last Online: Yesterday 05:51 PM iTrader: (52) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,853 DNF$: 6,120 Location: DeliciousNames Country:	Neither. Will try to get a .com without any hyphen. __________________ >>> C D z . c o m <<< Sale=> Toysale.com , GreeceTours.com; CasinoSite.com , CasinoWebsite.com

06-19-2009, 06:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
aZooZa Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 04:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,874 DNF$: 5,869 Location: Exeter, UK Country:	Trying is the name of this game __________________ UK Drop Catching Services: Dropsystem.co.uk New! Canada TBR Drop Catching: Dropping.ca New! QUALITY MiniSites: NOTsoMINI.com

06-20-2009, 04:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
MAllie Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Monica Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 705 DNF$: 7,200 Location: Dublin, Ireland Country:	Exactly, Dale - easier said than done. So, James, if you can't get the nonhyphenated dotcom, you'd go for the dotnet? Or you simply wouldn't bother? __________________ My Portfolio

06-20-2009, 07:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
MAllie Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Monica Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 705 DNF$: 7,200 Location: Dublin, Ireland Country:	Yes, I see that, James. But if you do a good job, isn't there a chance that after a few months your dotnet will come above the dotcom on the search engine? Unless people put the address straight into the bar, when that won't matter. __________________ My Portfolio

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