I have never seen so much.......

[jaydub]

I'll say it again...if I say minimum offer $xxx ...go by it or move on.
If I don't post any guidelines then I guess I am looking for whatever offers I get....and when I do post without a minimum offer/or range then I am polite if I get what I percieve to be a lowball offer....

It really isn't that difficult.....or am I missing something?

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by jaydub

It really isn't that difficult.....or am I missing something?

Nope. You are dead on.

There is a hell of a lot more aggravating about this forum than low ball offers.

Such as step one: Read Step Two: think

I have seen sale post after sale post with the same person asking, "Registrar?"

Jeez, if it is one or two domain names, look the damn thing up?

The point of posting these instructions as you point out are great.

But how many times has someone not read your minimum offer and gone ahead and posted a lowball offer.

[Acro]

Originally Posted by JuniperPark

I don't entirely agree as I have done business with Middle Easterners, but if we accept what you say is true then it's an offense NOT to lowball, since that's step #1 of haggling.

Yesterday I sold a .org on Sedo that cost me reg fee in 2005.

The transaction went like this:

Offer: $1,000
Me: $1,500
Offer: $1,150
Me: $1,345
Offer: $1,250
Accepted.

That's a valid transaction involving "haggling" (I've haggled with buyers and sellers from Turkey, Lebanon & Armenia).

What's not valid haggling is, when I *ask* for MINIMUM offers above a specific amount and I get offers below that threshold. That's "lowballing".

[britishbulldog]

Originally Posted by Rockefeller

Are you talking about on your names? I haven't seen you list anything of quality so I wouldn't be complaining about the offers....

Thats because i havnt listed any plonker...... I'm talking about other members who keep getting lowballed,basically taking the piss....you will never see my quality names on here for sale..........i'm not that desperate.....yet.

[adoon]

Originally Posted by Acro

Oh look, it's the adoon wise guy again. The same moron that came, on his 1st post, to tell me that I have no recourse filing a lawsuit against a Sedo buyer who breached the contract.

What are you doing here adoon? If we're such losers then why waste your time with us?

The fact is, nobody really gives a shit what you think. For every domain, there is a buyer. I can hold onto my domain portfolio until the polar ice-caps melt; each renewal fee is a valid business expense.

Talking down on domainers and their portfolio choices will get you b!tch-slapped in no time.

I told you what I thought....that you would have a better chance of SEEING GOD than you do of going after someone who accidentally overbid on one of your .net names and actually collecting a penny. If you want to chase someone down in another country and try to collect a judgement when you have NO DAMAGES, then you better hurry up and stop spending so much time on this board.

The bottom line is that you almost pulled one over on someone, but the deal fell through. There are NO DAMAGES. Even if they breached the contract you still collect zero. The name is obviously worth a ton less than the offer you speak of. It it were not, then you would simply sell it to someone else or not worry about it.

If you pay $8 for a name and someone offers you $20,000, and then backs out of the deal, you will not be awarded the difference in court if they back out. You even said that there were some cultural issues and a potential misunderstanding with the person making the offer.

The name you are crying about is the type of name that I am sure you would NEVER buy yourself for the amount you are claiming is owed. If you think the name is worth a fraction of what you claim you were cheated out of then simply list it here and try to sell it. Keep dreaming. It probably doesn't even get any traffic. No wonder you are upset that you didn't get XX,XXX for it.

Good luck. You have NO CHANCE to collect a penny even if you were to win a judgment.

[Acro]

Yawn. Listen douchebag. This shit don't work with me. But I'll tell you something else: you'd better be a big mother****er if you were to ever to face me, because I know how to treat a pussy right

F*ucking punkass

[Johnn]

Cool down guys and stay on topic.

[Acro]

Come on. We know who this psycho is, don't we John?
Mother****er comes on DNForum and 1st post he makes is this one at the Legal section.

Trust me, Mikey, the police report I've filed for your ass is getting longer by the minute.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by adoon

I told you what I thought....that you would have a better chance of SEEING GOD than you do of going after someone who accidentally overbid on one of your .net names and actually collecting a penny. If you want to chase someone down in another country and try to collect a judgement when you have NO DAMAGES, then you better hurry up and stop spending so much time on this board.

The bottom line is that you almost pulled one over on someone, but the deal fell through. There are NO DAMAGES. Even if they breached the contract you still collect zero. The name is obviously worth a ton less than the offer you speak of. It it were not, then you would simply sell it to someone else or not worry about it.

If you pay $8 for a name and someone offers you $20,000, and then backs out of the deal, you will not be awarded the difference in court if they back out. You even said that there were some cultural issues and a potential misunderstanding with the person making the offer.

Good luck. You have NO CHANCE.

In essence, it does not matter where they live. It matters where the contract was made. Sedo USA, Sedo UK, Sedo DE.

By bidding and failing to pay they breached the contract according to the contract they enrolled in.

As for collecting - with the help of British authorities, I was able to secure 19 domains that I paid for and were never transferred. I am in North Carolina. PayPal was no help at all and would not even investigate as it was "intangible property". Within three days of contacting the British authorities suddenly the seller was very apologetic and transferred the domains ASAP, nearly 6 months later.

Fraud is Fraud. Internet Fraud is taken very seriously in many countries. Someone breaching a contract as in failure to deliver goods is a breach of contract and fraud. Failing to complete the contract according to the agreed upon terms is a breach. As for the value of the goods, that person who bid and won (or haggled) just set the value of the goods. It now has a declared value.

I collect 17th, 18th, and 19th century southern pottery. If the original purchase price in 1918 was $0.49 cents, I buy it for $20.00, and someone buys it from me for $1200.00, what is the value of the piece? The first, second or third price?

So the NO DAMAGES statement may be null and void because the bidder just set the value, not Acro.

As for collecting, there are ways of doing it as I just illustrated.

[Acro]

Doc, seriously now. Do you think I am put down by this adoon character - who registered this alias when mike031 was temp banned - then came to make his #1 post in my thread at Legal posting the crap you read above?

I'll be watching you, Focker. You've just gained an addendum to the police report I've filed against your sorry ass.

[cleverlyslick]

Originally Posted by Acro

Doc, seriously now. Do you think I am put down by this adoon character - who registered this alias when mike031 was temp banned - then came to make his #1 post in my thread at Legal posting the crap you read above?

I'll be watching you, Focker. You've just gained an addendum to the police report I've filed against your sorry ass.

dayuummm!

don't let that guy bother you acro they're just words on a screen.

[adoon]

Originally Posted by Acro

Doc, seriously now. Do you think I am put down by this adoon character - who registered this alias when mike031 was temp banned - then came to make his #1 post in my thread at Legal posting the crap you read above?

I'll be watching you, Focker. You've just gained an addendum to the police report I've filed against your sorry ass.

I am not that Mike guy you claim.....doesn't matter anyways. The bottom line is that there have been hundreds of offers at Sedo where someone didn't come through for one reason or another. If you can show me one case where anyone got a nickel after winning a judgment from someone canceling their offer then that will be a first.

You get nothing. There are no damages, and if there are, you wouldn't collect it. I am right until you travel the world and collect your judgment on your .net name and become the first Sedo seller to do so. It has happened to everyone and there is nothing you can do except cry.

It is hard for you to see, I am sure. You will not be able to make this company buy the name off of you, and you will not be able to collect a penny from them.....understand?

Take a look at the company Sallie Mae...ticker symbol SLM. They were offered a ton of money to sell last year but the buyer backed out. The CEO from Sallie Mae sent them letters crying about finishing the deal, and asking to reconsider. Sorry, Charlie...it ain't happening....times have changed. There are NO DAMAGES.

No damages equals no collecting of money. Do you want a million dollars because they backed out? LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLL!

[Acro]

Can you do anything besides copy paste your own posts? And who the F*UCK do you think you are to tell me what I can and what I can't do with regards to legal action when signed contracts are concerned?

Are you a legal expert that reviewed my agreement on Sedo?

Little shit.