An important message from Snapnames

[stewie]

Even if they face a lawsuit...there are ways to move forward.

many companies just take all the equipment/systems and some key staff, close doors restructure and open under New name, New management. "SnappierNames"

Really what does Snapnames have that couldn't be moved to another name...overnight.

Sure we'd know...But it would all depend on if people choose to do business with them.

I doubt its over but it's going to be a rough ride.

JMO

[Acro]

About Rust Consulting that Oversee brought in:
http://www.rustconsulting.com

Does anyone have a doubt now that the measures are to protect Oversee primarily? The corporation is a "leader in class action settlement administration". Be very careful what you'll be signing in exchange for the "rebate".

Oversee: Reinstate all auction history immediately!

[TheLegendaryJP]

I noticed several times domains Halvarez won are missing from the history immediately after auction. I had so many clues yet I was so blind. Have had tons of email exchanges with Nelson, talking with wolf about wolf...

I wondered when youd surface.

I remember you posting exchanges with him on ***

[stewie]

nice article

http://acro.net/blog/2009/11/04/over...y-immediately/

[JuniperPark]

Namejet is quick to "clarify" their position

Dumb move, Namejet... you realize your statement is very similar to what Snapnames said when halvarez was accused of being a shill???

[Acro]

Dumb move, Namejet... you realize your statement is very similar to what Snapnames said when halvarez was accused of being a shill???

Nothing wrong with a little jackal feasting when the "lion" is down

[stewie]

Nothing wrong with a little jackal feasting when the "lion" is down

I agree attack while the "Lying" is down

[Crown]

Dumb move, Namejet... you realize your statement is very similar to what Snapnames said when halvarez was accused of being a shill???

Even if they were actually guilty of it... no way no how anything will come from it.

Years of direct - very public - accusations about SnapNames halvarez from every pro in this forum and beyond didnt result in anything. Public scandals and direct domain name examples at companies like TDNAM didnt result in anything.

The only reason griping about this is even possible right now is because Oversee made it so and they were in the position to hang snapnames out to dry. Had it been a homegrown company and not recently acquired I bet it wouldve been just a staff fire and complete non-disclosure like TDNAM pulled off on all of us.

Doubtful this will change anything anywhere. Unless there is some regulation these companies will continue to do whatever it is they want. Ironically, an oversees snapnames spinoff might end up being the only company we can trust after this because theyll be under the microscope.

[thevirtual]

While we are discussing Snapnames...

Is it allowed for domain backorder companies to auction domains that are still technically registered to someone else? When companies like namejet/enom auction off domains when they are still under redemption, these domains can be recovered by the original registrant and taken from the winning bidders account. Meanwhile Enom places 42 day complete locks on redemption domains that are won on Namejet.

Also I have always wondered if Pool has been "pocketing" domains with the company 'pocket domains'.

[Wzhxvy]

If I was Namejet, I would not be issuing any press releases or sending emails today. Looks like a nervous move and at best, looks like they are commenting about a competitor in their "industry". An industry that would make scalpers look like upstanding citizens right now.

I would be hiring a third party auditor if I was them today and having an exhaustive audit, JUST IN CASE...not issuing press releases that mean nothing, and insult our intelligence by proclaiming to know the security gaps that created the snapnames issue, and have those covered. If Namejet know what those security issues are, then that presumes they have inside info. Do they ? I dont think they would want to be saying that.

[Banned: ydnaemsti]

Namejet is not better who is that guy always as the second bidder trying to force an auction upon me?

[thevirtual]

At Namejet, anyone can be halvarez.

They need to stop publicly listing auctions that members have placed bids on.

[tonyk2000]

I noticed several times domains Halvarez won are missing from the history immediately after auction. I had so many clues yet I was so blind. Have had tons of email exchanges with Nelson, talking with wolf about wolf...

It is very interesting and becomes even more interesting... I noticed the same, namely:

- I prefund my snap account with bankwires, so all billing process for domains I won is quick and instant, no cc auth required

- On a typical day, I won some auctions and lost some. Some auctions I lost were won by a "suspicious bidder".

- The domains I won are processed maybe on hour or so, in the meantime I may view them in "pending orders" marked accordingly (you won). The domains I did not win are also there, in "pending orders" section, pending payment by their respective winners.

- BUT, the domains won on the same day by a "suspicious bidder", were NERVER in said "pending orders" section. Billing for these domains finished 100% immediately. Why? Maybe this bidder is also prefunding his acct with wires, like I do? If so, the processing speed and processing time for my wins and his wins of the day should be the same. But it is not.

After noticing this, I told to myself that this suspicious bidder must be snapnames and became more careful bidding against him.

The most interesting part of the story is that it was not halvarez.

This bidder is no more showing at 2009, I think I still remember the nickname, but I may very well be mistaken, so I'll not post it on public

[zurc.net]

I knew they could see my cards every time I was playing poker online..... >_<

[Onward]

Didn't Kjel of Snapnames support this crook as a high-volume customer?

The old thread seems to have been deleted?

[HOPE]

I knew they could see my cards every time I was playing poker online..... >_<

Don't get me started! Poker =

[donnacha]

The most interesting part of the story is that it was not halvarez.

This bidder is no more showing at 2009, I think I still remember the nickname, but I may very well be mistaken, so I'll not post it on public

That is extremely relevant, I am shocked that the supposedly street smart domainers on this forum are going along with the ludicrous idea that he used only one account.

If you were the guy who had built the system and were dealing with a huge number of auctions, would you use only one account? Why?

Remember, he had access to EVERYTHING. He had inside knowledge of each domain's traffic and the level of interest, both from people searching for that domain on his system and the number of back orders, stretching right back to the founding of the company. More importantly, he could piggyback on the eyes, minds and accumulated expertise of tens of thousands of domainers. He could track individual users, like the owner of a stock exchange keeping tabs on the most successful investors - we did the research and made the picks, he got to come along for the ride. We all pay attention to domains that seem to be attracting bidders, but his inside access allowed him to automate that, to jump on in even when a single bid was placed at the last-minute.

Given that he had that level of opportunity, do you seriously think he would concentrated all that advantage into just one account? Are you nuts?

Halvarez is the account he used to participate in 5% of auctions, and it certainly seems to be the one that generated the most suspicion, but he almost certainly spread his activities wider than that. The guy was VP of Engineering, he had an innate understanding of redundancy, of back-ups, he would have known that if he had to drop the Halvarez persona he needed to have another established account to jump to, that simply creating a new account would have been too obvious.

Again, is there any reason why he would have used only one? What would you have done? I know that I would have mixed it up a bit and used at least a dozen different accounts.

If it can be shown that the interference went deeper than they're saying, that has huge implications, not least because, as it currently stands, a lot of the shilled auctions will not be getting any refund because Halvarez was not the penultimate bidder.

So, we need to look very carefully at all our auctions, especially over the past few months, and work out if any other active accounts suddenly went quiet at around the same time as Halvarez. If it can be shown that he was operating a number of shill accounts, a lot more of us will get the refund we deserve.

[ilovedomains]

Only thing that would surprise me is if Snapnames was the only crooked one. These drop auctions always did look more like marketing scams than auctions to me.

[Beachie]

The old thread seems to have been deleted?

Cached here:

http://74.125.155.132/search?hl=en&s...meta=&aq=f&oq=

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