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[strongvis]

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

Specifics, ya they sent an email and like Denny said, fill out this form, mail it in blah blah blah. Basically there are several of these pages...some rebates on names as low as $1.09!

I'd like specific names JP . you can leave out the prices and dates.
email me

What I've noticed is this guy was a BALLER when it came to bidding on TM and adult names. Just would like to see what you got .

Something to consider in being a lead plaintiff in a class-action is that you might have to explain what domains you were bidding on in front of a jury of your peers I doubt a lot of people are going to really have a fun time trying to explain why they bid on stuff like Jeniferlopez.com or Analinguslovers.com (2 domains reportedly in the domainqeue account)

[James]

perhaps irrelevent to this topic/situation but are snapnames/oversee/moniker affiliate programs run under the same company ??

jim

http://www.dnforum.com/f128/moniker-...ad-386539.html

[mike031]

adam,

nobody is going to share names, because indeed mostly what he went after were tm and offensive adult names and such.... he was in it for the ppc $

domaintools.com is a nice option, although i've already seen in the past few days domains starting to get new whois info and email's changed

1000+ domains is only .99/domain from current owner

1000+ domains from historical records is $2.97

somebody should spend their rebate check on this stuff asap if you're serious about lawsuits and to pursue this further..... but it wont be me

[TheLegendaryJP]

Not completely true, while he did like sensitive names there were plenty of 3 and 4 letter and generics.

For example checkpeople.com was one I won that he bid in that resulted in a rebate.... nice little name btw, resold of course.

There was also many LLLL BUT I dont seem to be getting a rebate based on their calculations when it was just the two of us. These seem to me to be sales he was going to bid up but couldnt because of either time or lack of the needed competition.

[mike031]

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

Not completely true, while he did like sensitive names there were plenty of 3 and 4 letter and generics.

For example checkpeople.com was one I won that he bid in that resulted in a rebate.... nice little name btw, resold of course.

i never chased those back in the day, went after 1000s of the "linkpop" and other ppc $$$ traffic names week in and week out and he was in all of those of course..... no doubt he was all over the place tho why wouldnt he be??

[TheLegendaryJP]

Originally Posted by strongvis

I I doubt a lot of people are going to really have a fun time trying to explain why they bid on stuff like Jeniferlopez.com or Analinguslovers.com (2 domains reportedly in the domainqeue account)

Exactly, do you think if a plaintiff has to divuldge all of the names they will sue? Can you imagine Frank, Large Companies like BD's and Kevin showing all they bought, not likely, for many reasons, privacy, possible sensitive names and telling world exactly what you spent isnt the best investment move.

[zurc.net]

Obviously the "Chip" Patty Similien was working on was A.I. for Nelson Brady to pull this scheme... Now I understand why she couldn't provide full details when questioned...

It's all coming together now....

[24HourDomainer]

Anyone from DNF discuss this matter with the FBI?

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by mike031

nobody is going to share names, because indeed mostly what he went after were tm and offensive adult names and such.... he was in it for the ppc $

True, the last name halvarez beat me on was pinkyworld.com September 6, 2009. A lot of porn site creators must not know about PPC and they just let names drop.

halvaraz also went after a lot of generics if they had traffic.

[Equalizer]

Next in line "Traffic/MOniker Auctions" somebody already found halavarez in a recent one dle.com

Keep in mind Oversee is the big pocket one...lawyers will go after them , peopel keep talking about snapnames i nreality we are talking about Oversee.

Negligence it's an understament.

[pcproffenno]

Originally Posted by Equalizer

Next in line "Traffic/MOniker Auctions" somebody already found halavarez in a recent one dle.com

That was most likely a "joke" and not mr. Brady himself.

[stewie]

the whole thing needs a full investigation... usually where there's smoke there's fire.

JMO

[Equalizer]

Not sure how you know it's a joke 3 days ago halavrez was a joke
nevertheess...
Domainers will want assurance, no stone will be left unturned.

Traffic/moniker
sames system/plataform ,same company = Oversee.

[wmloz]

I googled halvarez thie morning...

First sponsored link:

http://www.classactionconnect.com/?q=node/819

They're gonna need lots of pencils and vaseline. Here's what the pencil is for: http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo_o..._biting_pencil

I can't post the picture of the vaseline...

[FormerDnForumer]

Originally Posted by stewie

the whole thing needs a full investigation...
JMO

It won't come from DnJournal, that's for sure, unless it's the "SnapNames is back and better than ever!" article sure to follow in a month or so.

[draggar]

Originally Posted by Onward

Huh? Where is the confusion?

Moniker's market place is snapnames...do you think they did not see the Halvarez BS as about 100 domainers did here on the forum over the past few years? And they joined forces under the same company?

Originally Posted by wmloz

I googled halvarez thie morning...

First sponsored link:

http://www.classactionconnect.com/?q=node/819

I wouldn't go with them if my life depended on it.

1) Their T&C:

Modifications to the Site We reserve the right at any time and from time to time to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Site (or any part of it) with or without notice. In the event of a modification or discontinuance, all information submitted by you and others may be lost. You agree to keep a permanent record of all information provided to us, and you agree that all information submitted to us is at your sole risk. You agree that we have no responsibility or liability for the deletion or failure to store any Content maintained or transmitted by the Site including without limitation messages and other communications. You agree that we shall not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.

Oops, we "lost" your case.

13. Errors and Corrections
We do not represent or warrant that the Site will be error-free, free of viruses or other harmful components, or that defects will be corrected. We do not warrant or represent that the information available on or through the Site will be correct, accurate, timely, or otherwise reliable. We may (but are not obligated to) make improvements and/or changes to its features, functionality or content of the Site at any time. In no event shall we be liable for any such errors or defects.

... and the trojan you got from our site "erased" your evidence on your PC.


2) What format for the payment?


3) No word on payment. I'm sure we've all seen class action lawsuits before. I remember one I was in for a video card. The lawyers pocketed seven figures. The handful (less than 5) people who brought up the case got a free video card and everyone else got a coupon for $10 off a new video card. Gee, I wonder who the real winner in that was?

[wmloz]

Originally Posted by draggar

I wouldn't go with them if my life depended on it.

1) Their T&C:


Oops, we "lost" your case.




... and the trojan you got from our site "erased" your evidence on your PC.


2) What format for the payment?


3) No word on payment. I'm sure we've all seen class action lawsuits before. I remember one I was in for a video card. The lawyers pocketed seven figures. The handful (less than 5) people who brought up the case got a free video card and everyone else got a coupon for $10 off a new video card. Gee, I wonder who the real winner in that was?

Didn't say I planned to participate in a CAL or go with them. Just pointing out that they vultures are circling.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by 24HourDomainer

Anyone from DNF discuss this matter with the FBI?

EVERY ONE AFFECTED! should be contacting the authorities on their own behalf.

The only way the full scope of this will be revealed is by having to deal with multiple reports regarding the same scam.

I am not sure why everyone is waiting for someone else to do their task for them.


Legal Addresses:

Here are some steps to take if you were involved (a victim) of any auction involving this person.
These are the steps that I will be taking to leave a paper trail easy for all agencies involved.

Be precise and succinct in your report.
Make it factual and eliminate any personal opinions and statements.
Make it good because you are going to get a lot of mileage out of this one report.

Start with filing a local police report - yes, they will file a report and data is collected.
Contact you credit card company used in paying for these auctions. Send along a copy of the email from the company.
They may not act on your behalf but will perhaps act on their own behalf. Enough complaints will prompt them to conduct their own investigation.

US AGENCIES:

* FBI local office
* U.S. Secret Service (Financial Crimes Division)
* Federal Trade Commission (online complaint)
* if securities fraud or investment-related SPAM e-mails, Securities and Exchange Commission (online complaint)
* The Internet Crime Complaint Center

You will also want to file a statement with YOUR State Attorney General's Office

AND

with the State of California (Home of Oversee.net)
with the State of Oregon (Home of SnapNames)

[trader]

Doubtful if contacting them would be beneficial since I am sure the company would report that it was a scam committed by a now fired rogue employee and done without corporate knowledge, which would seem to be unlikely investigated by the authorities.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by trader

Doubtful if contacting them would be beneficial since I am sure the company would report that it was a scam committed by a now fired rogue employee and done without corporate knowledge, which would seem to be unlikely investigated by the authorities.

Hardly true.

Firing someone for committing crimes does not absolve that person (or company) of any wrong doing.

These were crimes. These were federal crimes.