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**JMJ** · 11-07-2009, 07:54 PM

There are many user names that were used. It's obvious. Here's more very suspicious ones.

irs
pfkarl
amarige
snaper2005

**PRED** · 11-07-2009, 08:02 PM

hey, thought of a nice scenario
brady and a few others end up wearing orange jumpsuits and doing hardtime with bubba

oversee goes down and gets broken up

monte gets to buy moniker back. it sold for 65 mill. he gets to buy it back at 20 mill
normal business resumes at moniker

i'll take 1% for my consultancy charge

**Oversee Support** · 11-07-2009, 08:03 PM

Folks,

SnapNames technical staff has adjusted the existing system so order and bid histories are available back to August 2004, when auctioning began on the SnapNames system. This is now available by logging in to your SnapNames account.

Rob
Oversee Support

**dvdrip** · 11-07-2009, 08:05 PM

I couldn't agree more.
I can't do anything with the control panel anymore.
Renewals: problems
Changing whois: problems
Privacy: problems
CC Payments: problems
I can't think of one thing that actually works.
And support is non existent.
I haven't received a response from support in months.
I submit the ticket and after a couple of days I contact Bari.
2 weeks later whois is updated!

Oversee is going down very fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRED

where the f*ck is the justice in our society. theres a lot of anger out there
oversee needs to be raided imho
i already made my mind up too, im taking my names away from moniker start of next year when some more funds about for the transfers.
LOTS of technical glitches in their dashboard etc. dns prons, privacy whois issues etc etc
even payment problems. what sort of registry screws up when you're trying to pay
ive gone hot and cold on this, mainly as i like bari and monte so much, but sorry. its adios
its been brewing for a while. lots of probs since oversee took over . was perfect before

**Doc Com** · 11-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless

Class action lawsuits typically result in huge paydays for lawyers and peanuts for plaintiffs.

exactly.

Plus, I am not sure how many lawyers out there truly understand domains, domaining, and cyber law.

**JMJ** · 11-07-2009, 08:21 PM

I think we need to start another thread or like someone else stated a site and compare notes on user names. I think it's pretty evident that "halvarez" was not the lone fraud user name.

Also this was more targeted than just random bidding. I have access to 2 different companies accounts and for reasons I won't state at the moment why I know it was but it was more targeted rather than random acts.

**Acro** · 11-07-2009, 08:22 PM

Finally the auction history is back. Now we can cross-check the data.

**TheLegendaryJP** · 11-07-2009, 08:25 PM

I have to say I just looked over my snap backorders from 05-06 and am laughing to myself, dont get me wrong you can make a good buy here and there but holy smokes 99.99% of that stuff aint worth one dollar more and in fact a majority is worth LESS, crazy numbers people, crazy numbers.

**BILLBO** · 11-07-2009, 08:26 PM

Edited, JMJ beat me to it!

**JMJ** · 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM

I'm now pretty much 100% convinced siner was a fraud bidder.

**mike031** · 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

I have to say I just looked over my snap backorders from 05-06 and am laughing to myself, dont get me wrong you can make a good buy here and there but holy smokes 99.99% of that stuff aint worth one dollar more and in fact a majority is worth LESS, crazy numbers people, crazy numbers.

lmao

looking over some of my accounts and friends as well, comparing notes... the names we were chasing and the amounts paid for = insane

**Poker** · 11-07-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike031

lmao
looking over some of my accounts and friends as well, comparing notes... the names we were chasing and the amounts paid for = insane

On the other hand I got some great deals as early back as Dec-2004:

xxxxxxxxxxxx.org $60.00 (snap) Dec-2004

Sold 10,000 EUR (sedo) Aug-2009

**Acro** · 11-07-2009, 09:19 PM

Halvarez chased high and low; some names he was after himself, others he simply pumped up the price - apparently by spying on the reserve - and thus generated revenue for his own company. Either way, the proof is in Oversee's hands and we'll have to wait for their next legal move against the man who has cost them millions of dollars.

**TheLegendaryJP** · 11-07-2009, 09:32 PM

I said from day one that the BD's of the industry were grossly over paying on drops and now that I look back I think it is possible if they avoided drops they could have saved half their expenses over the last 5 years... the forums cannot be beat. It takes work but its worth it.

**JMJ** · 11-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

I said from day one that the BD's of the industry were grossly over paying on drops and now that I look back I think it is possible if they avoided drops they could have saved half their expenses over the last 5 years... the forums cannot be beat. It takes work but its worth it.

The auctions did kill the reseller to reseller end of things.. I've been talking about how all that money was exiting the industry and ending up in non-domainer pockets for years now. Little did I know.. lol

**RatherGood** · 11-07-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

I said from day one that the BD's of the industry were grossly over paying on drops and now that I look back I think it is possible if they avoided drops they could have saved half their expenses over the last 5 years... the forums cannot be beat. It takes work but its worth it.

as bulk bidders driving up the prices on auctions of any value do you really think they were paying full price without a discount?

**TheLegendaryJP** · 11-07-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatherGood

as bulk bidders driving up the prices on auctions of any value do you really think they were paying full price without a discount?

What type of bulk discount, do we know this for sure and is this a fair practice?

**JMJ** · 11-07-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

What type of bulk discount, do we know this for sure and is this a fair practice?

They admitted he was giving himself a "credit" I would imagine he was one of a number of entities getting this "credit/discount."

**Acro** · 11-07-2009, 10:17 PM

A credit as in, reversing the payment he made when he was a winner. Several times, upset domainers led him on, allowing him to win. Other times, he ostensibly drove up the price, only to pull out once he had apparently peeked at the reserve. That's what happens when you entrust an unethical person with both the chocolate cake and the sharp knife.

**dvdrip** · 11-07-2009, 10:27 PM

Is this Brady responding to a WIPO???
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/d...2006-1234.html

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11-07-2009, 07:54 PM	#861 (permalink)
JMJ DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Yesterday 04:26 PM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,328 DNF$: 4,412 Location: Neither here nor there Country:	There are many user names that were used. It's obvious. Here's more very suspicious ones. irs pfkarl amarige snaper2005 __________________ "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey

11-07-2009, 08:02 PM	#862 (permalink)
PRED Last Online: Yesterday 08:44 PM iTrader: (118) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,966 DNF$: 1,081 Country:	hey, thought of a nice scenario brady and a few others end up wearing orange jumpsuits and doing hardtime with bubba oversee goes down and gets broken up monte gets to buy moniker back. it sold for 65 mill. he gets to buy it back at 20 mill normal business resumes at moniker i'll take 1% for my consultancy charge __________________ For Sale for a Limited Time. Offers via PM

11-07-2009, 08:21 PM	#866 (permalink)
JMJ DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Yesterday 04:26 PM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,328 DNF$: 4,412 Location: Neither here nor there Country:	I think we need to start another thread or like someone else stated a site and compare notes on user names. I think it's pretty evident that "halvarez" was not the lone fraud user name. Also this was more targeted than just random bidding. I have access to 2 different companies accounts and for reasons I won't state at the moment why I know it was but it was more targeted rather than random acts. __________________ "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey

11-07-2009, 08:22 PM	#867 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: Today 02:57 AM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,904 DNF$: 4,079 Location: USA Country:	Finally the auction history is back. Now we can cross-check the data. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 78 days 19 hours 23 minutes

11-07-2009, 08:03 PM	#863 (permalink)
Oversee Support Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-19-2009 04:57 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 12 DNF$: 10	Folks, SnapNames technical staff has adjusted the existing system so order and bid histories are available back to August 2004, when auctioning began on the SnapNames system. This is now available by logging in to your SnapNames account. Rob Oversee Support

11-07-2009, 08:25 PM	#868 (permalink)
TheLegendaryJP Last Online: Today 01:07 AM iTrader: (35) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,165 DNF$: 6,332 Country:	I have to say I just looked over my snap backorders from 05-06 and am laughing to myself, dont get me wrong you can make a good buy here and there but holy smokes 99.99% of that stuff aint worth one dollar more and in fact a majority is worth LESS, crazy numbers people, crazy numbers.

11-07-2009, 08:26 PM	#869 (permalink)
BILLBO Last Online: 11-16-2009 05:02 AM iTrader: (18) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,330 DNF$: 459 Location: England Country:	Edited, JMJ beat me to it! __________________ JesusChri.st....... ChristJes.us....... Arkans.as.......Wiscons.in.......Fig.ht If interested then PM me!

11-07-2009, 08:31 PM	#870 (permalink)
JMJ DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Yesterday 04:26 PM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,328 DNF$: 4,412 Location: Neither here nor there Country:	I'm now pretty much 100% convinced siner was a fraud bidder. __________________ "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey

11-07-2009, 09:19 PM	#873 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: Today 02:57 AM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,904 DNF$: 4,079 Location: USA Country:	Halvarez chased high and low; some names he was after himself, others he simply pumped up the price - apparently by spying on the reserve - and thus generated revenue for his own company. Either way, the proof is in Oversee's hands and we'll have to wait for their next legal move against the man who has cost them millions of dollars. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 78 days 19 hours 23 minutes

11-07-2009, 09:32 PM	#874 (permalink)
TheLegendaryJP Last Online: Today 01:07 AM iTrader: (35) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,165 DNF$: 6,332 Country:	I said from day one that the BD's of the industry were grossly over paying on drops and now that I look back I think it is possible if they avoided drops they could have saved half their expenses over the last 5 years... the forums cannot be beat. It takes work but its worth it.

11-07-2009, 10:17 PM	#879 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: Today 02:57 AM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,904 DNF$: 4,079 Location: USA Country:	A credit as in, reversing the payment he made when he was a winner. Several times, upset domainers led him on, allowing him to win. Other times, he ostensibly drove up the price, only to pull out once he had apparently peeked at the reserve. That's what happens when you entrust an unethical person with both the chocolate cake and the sharp knife. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 78 days 19 hours 23 minutes

11-07-2009, 10:27 PM	#880 (permalink)
dvdrip Last Online: 11-20-2009 09:06 PM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,651 DNF$: 13,895 Location: Athens Greece Country:	Is this Brady responding to a WIPO??? http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/d...2006-1234.html __________________ www.bluepixel.gr I like .info! Now accepting .gr domain registrations from any foreign company or individual. Contact me for details.

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