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    Angry Publicdomainregistry.com

    Hello,
    Im experiencing an ABUSE.
    Coming from a reseller, WEBORTEL.COM, sub reseller of AUSTRALIANSTYLE.COM.AU, that is subreseller of PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM.

    I registered some domains, and one day I noticed that, without any previous advice, and without any kind of request coming from me, my domains start to be cancelled by the reseller, using the expedient of "money back period".
    So he got my money, and I have not my domains that I payed for.

    The reseller, when I started to ask why he was doing this, closed my account and didn't answer to my mails.

    Now I lost 56 domains, cancelled by him, and I can't access my account with the other domains that he didn't cancel.

    It's days that i try to contact the support team, but it seems that publicdomainregistry can't fix my problem, I got one answer from them "I am afraid, we wont be able to help you with the same"
    and a second one "It is indeed an unpleasant situation wherein the reseller is not assisting you. We request you to contact your parent reseller, as they are in a better situation to assist you"

    I tried to contact australian style but they have only an email address and not a real support page, so of course I got no answer.

    Is it really possible? I can't loose my domains and nobody can't help me?
    Maybe some of you knows a way for me to have back my domains?
    And what about the money payed for already cancelled domains??
    Who can really say how much was their real worth ?
    And what about the money I had in credit account, still to be used?

    I hope some of you can tell me what i have to do, it seems i tried everything..
    Thank you in advance,
    Mario
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    This is why you need to avoid resellers. Unlike registrars they are not answerable to icann so you have even less leverage when things go wrong.
    Did you try calling their (Indian) phone number ?
    http://www.webortel.com/reseller.php?action=contact_us
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    Firstly, do you have receipts for payments that you made? Do you have confirmation of registrations from these registrars? PM me some of the names if you don't want to post them in public. Something is badly wrong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aZooZa View Post
    Firstly, do you have receipts for payments that you made? Do you have confirmation of registrations from these registrars? PM me some of the names if you don't want to post them in public. Something is badly wrong here.
    hello thank you for the answer. of course i have the receipt of ANY payment i made, every confirmation of every single registration, and even the mail received after the cancellations
    i'll send an example to you in PM

    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    This is why you need to avoid resellers. Unlike registrars they are not answerable to icann so you have even less leverage when things go wrong.
    Did you try calling their (Indian) phone number ?
    http://www.webortel.com/reseller.php?action=contact_us
    i didn't try, but after the facts, im quite sure that those numbers are fakes



    edit: in another thread here someone speaks about the same platform I got the abuse, myorderbox.com, he tells that you can register domains for 3,99$

    http://www.dnforum.com/domain-resell...-new-post.html

    maybe im not the only one who got this abuse?
    Last edited by hola987; 06-14-2008 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Why not try contacting DirectI.com -- which runs PDR. Even though the reseller may not be answerable to ICANN, but the registrar is sure answerable to ICANN for the actions of their resellers -- and in this case, DirectI is the reseller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Brar View Post
    Why not try contacting DirectI.com -- which runs PDR. Even though the reseller may not be answerable to ICANN, but the registrar is sure answerable to ICANN for the actions of their resellers -- and in this case, DirectI is the reseller.
    Exactly. Also, Webortel has already been exposed as a scam on many forums - just Google for "webortel.com +scam".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Brar View Post
    Why not try contacting DirectI.com -- which runs PDR. Even though the reseller may not be answerable to ICANN, but the registrar is sure answerable to ICANN for the actions of their resellers -- and in this case, DirectI is the reseller.
    I will, just thought that publicdomainregistry could fix this simple problem, to give back to me MY domains. I was wrong. they don't care about me at all.
    Im trying now to contact directi

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    this old *** of mine got burned ..think I would know better but I transferred in about 50 low priority (questionable about keeping) domains to this DNF member "Mawali" (can see a ban coming for him/her ) reseller's account .
    To make a long story short the domain transfers were completed and a year added...now I can't access my account and the nameservers have been changed to
    Name server : PARK3.BOTTLE.COM.AU
    Name Server : PARK4.BOTTLE.COM.AU

    I opened a support ticket with Directi and the reseller is under investigation by the compliance dept.
    I suggest you also file a support ticket with directi also

    g/l
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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    this old *** of mine got burned ..think I would know better but I transferred in about 50 low priority (questionable about keeping) domains to this DNF member "Mawali" (can see a ban coming for him/her ) reseller's account .
    To make a long story short the domain transfers were completed and a year added...now I can't access my account and the nameservers have been changed to
    Name server : PARK3.BOTTLE.COM.AU
    Name Server : PARK4.BOTTLE.COM.AU

    I opened a support ticket with Directi and the reseller is under investigation by the compliance dept.
    I suggest you also file a support ticket with directi also

    g/l
    jim
    Same here.
    same nameservers.
    i opened tickets at directi, at publicdomainregistry and mailed australianstyle.

    results:
    pdr sent me to australianstyle,
    australianstyle didn't answer,
    directi didn't answer.

    incredible, i think. they can abuse of our domains without fixing the problem? who is the responsible if they use badly these domains that we can't control, with our data in the whois?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hola987 View Post
    directi didn't answer.
    no support ticket # ?? did you use https://support.directi.com/support/supReqForm.jsp

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    Most my domains listed for sale are available at sedo.com

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    Domain Name: webortel.com
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    CybeR CriminaL

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    speak of the devil He's on now reading this thread Mawali any comments ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Mawali View Post
    Domain Name: webortel.com
    Domain Secret B17ecn2Qij

    CybeR CriminaL
    bailing out ??
    Last edited by James; 06-15-2008 at 08:09 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    Note:My posted Sales Prices are valid for 3 Days only
    Most my domains listed for sale are available at sedo.com

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    how many people read this forum? a lot.
    how many domainers? i think ALL of them.
    what directi thinks about this? how many people will register domains with them if they can't quickly fix same situations?

    I ask someone from directi who read this thread to give us some answers and to fix our problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by hola987 View Post
    I ask someone from directi who read this thread to give us some answers and to fix our problems
    from their support response

    We shall carry out the necessary investigation from our end and revert to you with all the details within the next 24-48 hours. Being a weekend it might take us up to 48 hours to provide you with the next update. But we shall try our level best to get your issue rectified at the earliest
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    Note:My posted Sales Prices are valid for 3 Days only
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    well.. how much time passed for the first answer? just to guess when they'll answer me..

    Now I got this reply fron the support team of DIRECTI:
    I am delegating this issue to my Client Service Team for further assistance. They shall update you once they have investigated on this issue.

    I hope they will...
    Last edited by hola987; 06-15-2008 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Well, Webortel is run by the biggest hacker in town called mawali, he had this directi account from 2 years with $20,000 Balance in it. And started selling domains for $4.

    He has earned $10,000 in just 3 weeks from webortel.com, and is happy by scamming you people

    And also, You will not get your domains back

    Just think that you got scammed in a huge way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Brar View Post
    Why not try contacting DirectI.com -- which runs PDR. Even though the reseller may not be answerable to ICANN, but the registrar is sure answerable to ICANN for the actions of their resellers -- and in this case, DirectI is the reseller.
    Looks like their passing the buck

    Hello,

    The sdomain name has been registered through one of our channel partner . Since, you have availed services from them, you are requested to contact him at:

    Email Address : info@australianstyle.com.au
    Company Name : Australian Style Pty. Ltd.
    Name : Australian Style Pty. Ltd
    Address : Level 2, Q2 Building
    : 2 Queen Street
    City : Melbourne
    Zip : 3000
    State/Region/Province : Victoria
    Country : Australia
    Tel No : +61.38686772

    Thank you and have a nice day!
    Note:My posted Sales Prices are valid for 3 Days only
    Most my domains listed for sale are available at sedo.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Looks like their passing the buck
    yes, and this is the answer from the australianstyle mailbox:

    Please visit www.econsumer.gov to file a complaint about this incident and learn more about what you can do. This mailbox does not handle individual complaints.

    Edit: ..and now the website of the scammer, webortel.com became a parking page!
    Last edited by hola987; 06-16-2008 at 08:58 PM.

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    All domains registered at webortel have become a parking page

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