Unbelievable Response to a Domain Offer

[aZooZa]

Hello again,

Thanks for all the thoughts guys. The truth is I don't think 1K is a bad starting point or a "low ball" offer for any two word domain. Surprisingly I've picked up some XXX,XXX level domains for around 1K and some for a couple hundred that eventually sold in the XX,XXX range. This said, why in the world would I send an initial offer of 5K for example. Also it is just that... a starting point. I have paid in the XXX,XXX range for domains that I sent an initial offer of $500. No joke!

Price aside above all I did nothing to provoke this guy and was completely professional. His response is completely unprofessional and shows that he has poor character and as someone else suggestion he is likely on the uneducated side.

Another thing if he really does not want offers he can note "(Not For Sale)" in the whois area. This clown probably thrives on sending out these type of responses.

Anyway... I wish everyone a happy holiday and all the best!!

Joel

Good for you Joel. Agree 100%.

[Doc Com]

Ah, yes, sweet Denny.

He would have offered $40 for the same domain.

And when the owner turned him down, Denny would have sent a similar response.

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Otherwise, it is one thing to get offers but it is insulting to get some offers from "educated" domainers.

If someone knows how to access a WHOIS to look up the information themselves, chances better than 50/50 that they are a domainer.

Oops! Many of them are members right here on DNF.

[carlton]

It's common to simply not respond to lowball offers ... particularly for a premium domain. You run the risk of not being taken seriously if you start out low. None of us would be receptive to someone saying "I'll give you $1000 for your 2008 Lexus". You'd look at the person as either a smart*ss or just weird.

However, totally agree that the guy was an incredible jerk, very immature response. What a shame when he/she has a domain you're interested in buying. That volatile temper can lead to all kinds of weirdness before the sale closes.

[Creature]

Hey Everyone,

I sent a $1000 offer on domain: clothingstore.com to this guy named Denny Schtuhlberg. Apparently he's the CEO of: hebeiltd.com.cn

He send me an initial response of only: "LOL"

I responded saying I had plenty of money and this was simply an initial offer. His recent email is stunning! (see below)

You fu*ker
first you spam me with a nonsense offer
now you are trolling

You think all domains are like your mother - for sale ?
I do not sell domains you f**king loser !
That's why I am making fun of desperate f**kers like you,
how got shit and are spamming in naive hope they can
get something for 1/100 of its value

NEXT TIME DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND DO
NOT SPAM PEOPLE YOU F**KING PIECE OFF
SHIT LOSER !

I get everyday tens of garbage emails from garbage like you
although I do not WANT to sell my domain you cocksucker !

Maybe just a counter offer of 100k in his own unique style, no big deal. The second reply possibly with a hint of what he expects to achieve for the domain, "1/100 of its value". Also the WANT in uppercase, maybe another hint. Quite a lot of info in his reply. If you really want the name, and if you have 100k budget, better to get that reply than no reply at all.

[FormerDnForumer]

Yea, Denny was quite a nut. I even remember that guy.

[dn-101]

I get low ball offers from the Russian fella with tainted money all the time.
Every time I tell him politely to go fly a kite - but he aways comes back with more sh!tty offers.
Perhaps I should copy Denny's response...

[MacyT.]

That kind of response is just absurd. For all the people saying that the initial offer was 'insulting'...how is it insulting? Did he give birth to the domain, did he paint the domain, did he create the alphabet that makes up the domain???

It's a name - one he was simply lucky enough to have the foresight to register before somebody else did. It doesn't give him the right to talk to people like that and look down on all the 'idiots' trying to get something for nothing. If he has no interest in selling it, then why isn't it just under private registration?

He's an idiot. How does he know that he just turned away a buyer who would have bought 3 more of his names for 7 million? He doesn't.

[Giode]

Hello again,

Thanks for all the thoughts guys. The truth is I don't think 1K is a bad starting point or a "low ball" offer for any two word domain. Surprisingly I've picked up some XXX,XXX level domains for around 1K and some for a couple hundred that eventually sold in the XX,XXX range. This said, why in the world would I send an initial offer of 5K for example. Also it is just that... a starting point. I have paid in the XXX,XXX range for domains that I sent an initial offer of $500. No joke!

Price aside above all I did nothing to provoke this guy and was completely professional. His response is completely unprofessional and shows that he has poor character and as someone else suggested he is likely on the uneducated side.

Another thing if he really does not want offers he can note "(Not For Sale)" in the whois area. This clown probably thrives on sending out these type of responses.
Joel

Can you tell us some of the xxx,xxx domains you have bought for a grand? I highly doubt it.

Anyone wanting to have success with sending inquiries, I highly suggest you DO NOT follow this advice. Unless you want the same replies replies back that this guy gets.

[acesfull]

Hey Everyone,

I sent a $1000 offer on domain: clothingstore.com to this guy named Denny Schtuhlberg. Apparently he's the CEO of: hebeiltd.com.cn

He send me an initial response of only: "LOL"

I responded saying I had plenty of money and this was simply an initial offer. His recent email is stunning! (see below)

You fu*ker
first you spam me with a nonsense offer
now you are trolling

You think all domains are like your mother - for sale ?
I do not sell domains you f**king loser !
That's why I am making fun of desperate f**kers like you,
how got shit and are spamming in naive hope they can
get something for 1/100 of its value

NEXT TIME DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND DO
NOT SPAM PEOPLE YOU F**KING PIECE OFF
SHIT LOSER !

I get everyday tens of garbage emails from garbage like you
although I do not WANT to sell my domain you cocksucker !

I would reply back with, "Does that mean you're not interested?"

[simon]

99% of the email offer that i get on my domains are from lowballers and they would not pay the fair market price even in their dreams so i understand the frustration.

[cleverlyslick]

Did you counter at $1075, firm and final and ask him to cover the Escrow fee?

i would've done it lolol

[tristanperry]

Hello,
I understand that
clothingstore.com

Is a great domain.

I also understand that you may receive many offers for $1,000 (etc) for this domain.

Hence I bid $1,005 for this domain.

Please let me know.

Tristan



I seriously sent that (hoping for a reply) - am appalled that this guy calls himself a business man, he needs to learn some manners.

[NostraDomainus]

The same way Stupid Quesions beget a Stupid Answer,
Lower Ball Offers beget a Low Ball Reply.

Did the Offerer really think it was cool to offer $1000 for clothingstore.com?

Not to insult owners with unsolicited offers, ignorantly or not, I simply send an e-mail asking If the domain is for sale and What are their price expectations.

If one really wants the name and is a player, then they can start negotiating from the owners reply price. If one does not have the $ to buy the name in the first place, at or around the owners price expectations* then yeah, stop wasting everyone's time. (*Note: As long as Price Expectations are around Fair Market Value that is, and not overly inflated.)

I find not insulting the owner increases my chance of getting the domain I want.
(...but maybe that's just me.)

Personally, I just don't respond to low-ball offers. I don't have time to reply with my price to 100 low-ballers on the off chance 1 may result in a sale to a real businessperson.

IMO, low-ball offers are like spam -to most recepients, it is a waste of time, but to most senders, it can result in 1 sale, and that's enough to justify wasting everyone elses time.

Best of Luck with Your Endeavours!

[Seraphim]

I'm all for taking the gloves off on spamming lowballers. When you've owned domains long enough, you can smell the difference between an offer yet to blossom, and a weed. Time and time again these guys are cycling through a domainers portfolio with pointless offers and inquiries. It gets old.

[Acquisition]

No offense, but it was incredibly stupid of you to mention that you "have plenty of money".

INCREDIBLY dumb. There is absolutely no need to add that to an email as it will never benefit the buyer in any way, shape, or form.

[DTalk]

Try-on offer - Dumb reply....Waste of bandwidth all round.

[dn-101]

SPAM by DESPERADOS

I made a mistake by mentioning my web business here in this thread.
As a result I got spammed by several desperados who call themselves 'domainers'. They want me to LOOOOK at their sh!t. And sh!t it is!
My advise: sell your sh!t and buy yourself a rope

[nameadvertising.com]

Guys, why blame the uninitiated of being guilty of lowballing? Wanna find out examples of low ball offers? - This forum is a perfect one.

[Fearless]

Denny should do as I do, ignore email domain name inquiries/offers from gmail accounts.

[Wot]

I only respond to offers that are more than my price expectations then negotiate down to ensure that the "buyer" gets a fair deal.

Strangely- I get very few offers!