Unbelievable Response to a Domain Offer

[allroundguy]

Hey Everyone,

I sent a $1000 offer on domain: clothingstore.com to this guy named Denny Schtuhlberg. Apparently he's the CEO of: hebeiltd.com.cn

He send me an initial response of only: "LOL"

I responded saying I had plenty of money and this was simply an initial offer. His recent email is stunning! (see below)

You fu*ker
first you spam me with a nonsense offer
now you are trolling

You think all domains are like your mother - for sale ?
I do not sell domains you f**king loser !
That's why I am making fun of desperate f**kers like you,
how got shit and are spamming in naive hope they can
get something for 1/100 of its value

NEXT TIME DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND DO
NOT SPAM PEOPLE YOU F**KING PIECE OFF
SHIT LOSER !

I get everyday tens of garbage emails from garbage like you
although I do not WANT to sell my domain you cocksucker !

Perhaps it all begins by sending unsolicited email to strangers.
It is a good habit to ask for permission to send email before doing it.
Unless I answer to an ad that invites email reply, I phone or send a brief intro letter, fax or a telegram first and suggest they answer to a specific email address from their official business server.

Who has no own web account + email@that_account.ext is not likely to afford to be in business, but I do accept email from some yahoo and gmail etc. accounts from people I trust.

About the offer itself: Domains have no intrinsic value, but the value that seller and payer agree - Whatever third party estimations and comparisons. It is as with cars and houses: Pay the asking price, negotiate, or forget about it.

Here, the communication was clear:
- Potential buyer and seller have clearly very different ideas about the price of the domain.
- Domain owner is clearly upset for 2 main reasons
a) Because of being asked to sell.
b) Because of the offered price.
c) Perhaps emotions are related to former NP membership issues.

Good business should be built on trust and politeness.
Imho.

[katherine]

I would start by inquiring whether the name is available for sale. No mention of money.
You're spoiling your own negotiations by submitting a lowball insulting offer.

[NostraDomainus]

Ignorance of low-balling is not an excuse for low-balling.

May the domains be with you!

[Focus]

Denny is a cokehead.....

[Salient]

Am I the only one here does not think clothingstore dot com is worth 100K?

1K is low, but the response is over the top.

[Fearless]

Am I the only one here does not think clothingstore dot com is worth 100K?

I'm with you. $10K tops.

[octobus]

Why don't you also post those two emails that you sent Denny instead of just vaguely describing what you wrote? You've taken the liberty to post his response to the letter for everyone to gloat at DNF without the whole message chain being open for examination.

Something tells me that you were not that polite either and maybe his response was only made because of provocation from your part...

[BLazeD]

I'm with you. $10K tops.

Thirded.

Fear enough response from Denny. He just didn't have to bring your Mum in to it.

[wussadotcom]

Sometimes when I get a really lowball offer like that I feel like replying like that, but don't.

True, completely agreed. Thats vecause we have ethics and manner even with someone we don't know

[octobus]

--Original Message Text---
From: joellefko@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:16:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: domain name offer

Hi,

Willing to pay 1,000 us for domain: clothingstore.com

If interested please advise on how to
proceed.

Thanks,

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
The funny part is I have just over 200K in the bank and that was just an initial offer. Since you're a first rate dick I'll pass on principal alone.

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
200Kof Zimbabwe dollars
LOL
Another free email loser you
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
I would send you a snap of my statement if I actually cared and trusted you. You're a total joke.
Completely unprofessional and rude as can be. Next time do yourself a favor and simply don't respond. Best of luck to you Denny.
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[CureCancer]

--Original Message Text---
From: joellefko@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:16:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: domain name offer

Hi,

Willing to pay 1,000 us for domain: clothingstore.com

If interested please advise on how to
proceed.

Thanks,

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
The funny part is I have just over 200K in the bank and that was just an initial offer. Since you're a first rate dick I'll pass on principal alone.

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
200Kof Zimbabwe dollars
LOL
Another free email loser you
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
I would send you a snap of my statement if I actually cared and trusted you. You're a total joke.
Completely unprofessional and rude as can be. Next time do yourself a favor and simply don't respond. Best of luck to you Denny.
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Thank you for sharing this with us.

[Honan]

No he is not.
He is just a <>
With an odd sense of humour

[TheLegendaryJP]

I'm with you. $10K tops.

I agree Greg, furthermore he only sales generics at 30-50 yr multiples

[URLtrader]

The guy using foul language was not taught that you should treat people the way you want them to treat you. His language , style and content reflect his personality and upbringing.

[gingeman]

you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

Now the full transcript of the email conversation is posted my sympathy has withered.

[stuff]

another self made millionaire "joellefko"
Image that he want`s to make :

he makes millions in selling/buying domains in year
Another couple hundred k, with PPC
Has around $200 000 laying in his bank account
Send spam emails to whois emails, even if it says DOMAIN NOT FOR SALE
He started one year back.

__________________________________________________ ___________
Stuff`s (tm) reality check to "joellefko"
joellefko-->
Lives with his mom
Mom sends him to school every morning makes a little lunch pack for him..
started 1 year back registering .mobi-s or .me, thinks he has landed a big gold mine, if reality cicks in, he sees he has spent all his moms money $2000 or something like that on worthless domains.
so He starts a thread in forum where he tryes to get a figure how much others make. so he can have his wet dreams at night.
then starts the whois spam thing, he wants to suck someone really bad, he want`s to get the best deals to land the BIG deal.
__________________________________________________ ____________
BUT you should know that:
You are years too late...... your $1000 will not give you the dream anymore. There have been suckers like you for many years now, some have made it some not..

[jasdon11]

--Original Message Text---
From: joellefko@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:16:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: domain name offer

Hi,

Willing to pay 1,000 us for domain: clothingstore.com

If interested please advise on how to
proceed.

Thanks,

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
The funny part is I have just over 200K in the bank and that was just an initial offer. Since you're a first rate dick I'll pass on principal alone.

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
200Kof Zimbabwe dollars
LOL
Another free email loser you
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
I would send you a snap of my statement if I actually cared and trusted you. You're a total joke.
Completely unprofessional and rude as can be. Next time do yourself a favor and simply don't respond. Best of luck to you Denny.
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LOL, busted!

[Seraphim]

--Original Message Text---
From: joellefko@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:16:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: domain name offer

Hi,

Willing to pay 1,000 us for domain: clothingstore.com

If interested please advise on how to
proceed.

Thanks,

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
The funny part is I have just over 200K in the bank and that was just an initial offer. Since you're a first rate dick I'll pass on principal alone.

Joel

Quote:Originally Posted by Denny
200Kof Zimbabwe dollars
LOL
Another free email loser you
LOL

Quote:Originally Posted by SpammingLoser
I would send you a snap of my statement if I actually cared and trusted you. You're a total joke.
Completely unprofessional and rude as can be. Next time do yourself a favor and simply don't respond. Best of luck to you Denny.
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As I suspected. Now all Denny needs to do is sue this clown for libel... scratch that, he'd only collect pennies.

The mods should BAN "joellefko" from the community. A sleazy game he's playing here.

[TooManyDomains]

Super lame joellefko

[PapaStiz]

No wonder Denny went crazy. The guy emails him and then is an *** way before Denny even became rude.

Spam people, lowball them, then get pissy with them.....then come here and expect sympathy. Bad form, Joel.