What happend to DNFORUM...

[Banned: brian1234]

I know that 'thinking' is an activity seldom engaged in, for
many of the friendly folks on this forum, and for the few who
make domaining their full-time work (and are profitable) then
my comment about it being a hobby does not, of course,
apply to you.

The truth is, there are winners and losers in every field of
endeavor and that is exactly how it should be. This forum
is a great one (but not for sales) and it would be great to
see a better quality of chat on here... but, again, domaining
has a zero barrier of entry, in every respect, so it must be
expected that the standard will be low.

Good luck,

[Banned: Raider]

I think the forum has become so over saturated with worthless domains that less and less members want to post quality. Why not have Domain sales in a category of it's own?, not appearing in Todays posts, If your looking to buy or sell, you click "Sales" This will save most of us the anguish of reading through domains we don't want to read.

[Stian]

I think the forum has become so over saturated with worthless domains that less and less members want to post quality. Why not have Domain sales in a category of it's own?, not appearing in Todays posts, If your looking to buy or sell, you click "Sales" This will save most of us the anguish of reading through domains we don't want to read.

The problem is that all the buyers are elsewhere. I hardly sell any domains on the forums anymore. It's only via e-mail, Skype, phone, brokers etc.

It's unfortunate, but it's a fact.

[dcristo]

I think the forum has become so over saturated with worthless domains that less and less members want to post quality.

why would you want to post quality domains for sale when you expect to get reseller prices? you'd just be wasting your time.

[Stian]

why would you want to post quality domains for sale when you expect to get reseller prices? you'd just be wasting your time.

Problem is that you don't even get reseller prices here anylonger.

[Gerry]

...but there´s definltey a lot going on in the background.

100% of my sales for 2012 are folks coming to me.

A little slow at the moment but still getting inquiries. Most recent was for a .travel. Hand regged two years ago. I don't mind paying nearly $100 renewal fee when the offer is about 100 times that amount.

[Banned: Raider]

why would you want to post quality domains for sale when you expect to get reseller prices? you'd just be wasting your time.

This is exactly the reason why I don't sell here, and the rare times that I do it's to unload my unwanted junk. One reason for posting quality is when your in need of cash as one poster already pointed out.

And then you have your mediocre domains that members try to flip, they pick them up for $60 on backorder and try to sell for a $100, you do enough of those and it adds up... It's the hand regs that are really polluting today's posts, Domains they think they can flip for a profit, Problem is most domainers know crap when they see it.

[dcristo]

100% of my sales for 2012 are folks coming to me.

that's how you want to start negotiations

This is exactly the reason why I don't sell here, and the rare times that I do it's to unload my unwanted junk.

that's why i haven't liked where the direction of this forum seems to be heading. although adam would love this forum to be the place for buying/selling quality domains, the truth of the matter is that it's the place to liquidate your lesser quality domains for cash flow. expecting any differently is just wishful thinking. some of the business decisions seem to be ignoring the fact that the strength of DNF is the community and learning from each other.

[katherine]

This is exactly the reason why I don't sell here, and the rare times that I do it's to unload my unwanted junk.

That's funny, it shows that we are part of the very problem we are complaining about Domainers prefer to keep their best names for the right offer, and liquidate the lower quality ones.

It's a sign of the times, the market being flooded with more crap TLDs that didn't exist back then, more newcomers, more competition, more dubious handregs and the quality is diluted as a result or rendered less visible.

[Mark Talbot]

That's funny, it shows that we are part of the very problem we are complaining about Domainers prefer to keep their best names for the right offer, and liquidate the lower quality ones.

It's a sign of the times, the market being flooded with more crap TLDs that didn't exist back then, more newcomers, more competition, more dubious handregs and the quality is diluted as a result or rendered less visible.

Ahh,. but yet, maybe this points more to the solution.

Maybe the problem is Adam needs top make a retail solution coupled to this wholesaler product, dnforum.

Guests and lowest registrant member groups (maybe a new free group entry level, that a random end-user passer by would use to contact a rertail seller bout such thread) can see the domains for sale at retail prices. (or some mechanism like that)

But since this forum is dominated with domain flippers etc, have gold-on-up privy to the wholesalers prices where flippers/dumpers/and snatchers can trade behind the public eye.

Maybe even more, if retail sellers would use their blogs at dnf for their public retail sales, as well as I am sure their own websites, this would give more exposere to those desired price points.





But you put a bunch of cheap lowballer domainers in a room,.... and all you will get is sub-wholsale flipper price points on bundles everyone is trying to dump.

And maybe the problem,... points to the solution of some sorts. Maybe.

[hugegrowth]

Interesting that with all the gtld's coming, the weekly DNJournal sales report is still steady.

Lots of people still willing to pay 4, 5 and 6 figure sums for .com domains and other extensions mustn't be too worried about the gtld's.

As for judging names, there are lots of domains that sell every week for $x,xxx out there that wouldn't get a second look or $10 offer on here, so you just never know. There is a luck and speculation side to all of this too.

[ilovedomains]

A lot of people here think the drop auctions are the wholesale market, and this is where you come to retail them. Then they get pissed when no one even bids on them. 99% of names are dropped because the owners have determined they arent worth the reg fee, (and most of the time the owners are right).

Maybe some of you have it backwards. Try buying names wholesale here and retailing them somewhere else. Dont blame the board because no one wants the crap you "won" at the drop auctions.

[Banned: Raider]

That's funny, it shows that we are part of the very problem we are complaining about Domainers prefer to keep their best names for the right offer, and liquidate the lower quality ones.

It's a sign of the times, the market being flooded with more crap TLDs that didn't exist back then, more newcomers, more competition, more dubious handregs and the quality is diluted as a result or rendered less visible.

Absolutely right on both points. Unfortunately nothing can be done about the quality unless we police it and that's not gong to happen because it would cause a uproar. I think the best solution is Categorizing sales, lump it into one section, making today's post's more about learning and interacting as decristo pointed out, Times have changed like you said and we need to change with it, It's not like were putting domain sales out to pasture, it will always be there for the viewing, you'll just have to make one extra effort to click to view them.

some of the business decisions seem to be ignoring the fact that the strength of DNF is the community and learning from each other.

Agree 100%.. it's the biggest reason why I'm here.

[Banned: Raider]

99% of names are dropped because the owners have determined they arent worth the reg fee, (and most of the time the owners are right).

I dropped almost 200 this last year alone, could of sold them here but didn't want to bother with it, not worth my time. Not worth having to deal with lowballers on domains that are already at fire sale prices.

[Biggie]

I dropped almost 200 this last year alone, could of sold them here but didn't want to bother with it, not worth my time. Not worth having to deal with lowballers on domains that are already at fire sale prices.

i've seen where many of the one's i've dropped ended up at BD


then later, they sell them to some other domainer or end-user


guess they "look" better when they own em.

[Banned: Raider]

i've seen where many of the one's i've dropped ended up at BD


then later, they sell them to some other domainer or end-user


guess they "look" better when they own em.

LOL, You actually hit on something that's very true... If I had a domain like coatedpaperclips.com, (I'd lmao if someone read this & registered it) and tried for years to sell it on the Forums, and it didn't sell and I let it drop, and because it's dropping, one or more domainers would likely back order it at one of the drop catchers for $60.. Then a year or two later they would realize it's crap, let it drop and the process would repeat itself.

[dcristo]

I dropped almost 200 this last year alone, could of sold them here but didn't want to bother with it, not worth my time. Not worth having to deal with lowballers on domains that are already at fire sale prices.

Don't lie, you just don't want other domainers knowing what kind of kinky stuff you're into

[nicedomains]

LOL, You actually hit on something that's very true... If I had a domain like coatedpaperclips.com, (I'd lmao if someone read this & registered it) and tried for years to sell it on the Forums, and it didn't sell and I let it drop, and because it's dropping, one or more domainers would likely back order it at one of the drop catchers for $60.. Then a year or two later they would realize it's crap, let it drop and the process would repeat itself.

Right, happens all the time but I think Biggie's saying BD (or probably HD too) are catching and then reselling those names to end users or resellers.

[Banned: Raider]

Don't lie, you just don't want other domainers knowing what kind of kinky stuff you're into

LOL... Either that or I'm too embarrassed to show the crap I registered 8+ years ago.

[Anthony Ng]

Everybody knows that end-users pay big bucks, so it would be unfair to say the least asking Adam to run DNForum SOLELY as a domainers' hangout instead of it taking off to the next level and tapping into that HUGE market.

A viable business model (yes, DNForum IS a business, just like Google and Yahoo are "communities") is to fine-tune its existing membership hierarchy, so domainers and end-users are more clearly differentiated (separate and UNequal; yes, casual and amateur "domainers" could always join the club, if he or she is willing to spend a month's salary on a single night out, so to speak). More importantly, we should not keep the BUYERS from even entering the building. By expanding its reach to end-users, not only will DNForum grow into a truly mainstream industry leader (and not a shady cybersquatters' hideout), all who look to sell will also benefit from having sedo kind of end-users at our fingertips. It's a no-brainer, if you ask me.