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Old 12-09-2008, 02:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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have you had any success in general with PPC to affiliate arbitrage?
yeah , I've been into it ever since Yahoo banned domain arbitrage, but I'm still learning and I'm far from reaching my goals

but I can tell you this... it's much easier to profit in that industry than in the domain industry. This is why I'm slowly moving away from active domaining and towards affiliate marketing
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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the affiliate program associated with this is not allowing signups.
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keeps trying to download "signup.php" or times out.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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yeah , I've been into it ever since Yahoo banned domain arbitrage, but I'm still learning and I'm far from reaching my goals

but I can tell you this... it's much easier to profit in that industry than in the domain industry. This is why I'm slowly moving away from active domaining and towards affiliate marketing
thanks petros....yeah...i agree with you as well....it seems like its all about finding the right niches/affiliates that convert well....trial and error.....i also am starting to look more closely at this area....
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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In fact you don't even need a domain or a website - the URL on your PPC can be your affiliate link.
Not so easy anymore with AdWords. Google has again tilted the tables in favor of the bigger companies and put the strangle hold on affiliate marketers.

We used to be able to insert affiliate links into browser meta http-refresh and/or use 301 redirects; throw ad spend at those URLs and make a killing.

Google started requiring ads to be labeled as affiliate links, eg: "Aff" in your ad copy (no big deal, this didn't seem to have any severe impact on conversions). Then Google dealt a more crucial blow - the display URL in your ads could only be that of the parent company and then the real crippling blow: only 1 link per parent company will show up in the search results.

Now if you want to advertise affiliate links with AdWords you need to create landing pages where the user has to click through to get to parent company (thus requiring 2 clicks to get to desired product/service -- how does this enhance the "user experience" Google ?!?). Then you face the frustrating challenge of getting a high enough quality score to not get hit with $10.00 minimum bids.
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well having a good credible name can cut costs in regards to marketing especially in the ppc marketplace,...Since a good domain will get a better response than its competitors in turn bringing down the price per click you will pay, through google ppc that is, Ive heard yahoo was planning on doing the same awhile back.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Sheva, it actually doesn't have a lot to do with domains at all. It is no more than affiliate marketing. If you have product or service type domains with traffic, then basically you can use that free traffic to sell related affiliate products.

If you don't have that traffic, then you can buy it through adsense etc. If your site converts well and you can buy the traffic cheap enough....bingo!
In fact you don't even need a domain or a website - the URL on your PPC can be your affiliate link.
Does anyone here know of any websites that list or rate affiliate programs?
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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r these the ones like copeac n neverblue ad networks u guys r talking abt? perto is it? perto i have done a bit of investment and worked few months on it, let me know if you wanna discuss abt it.
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:34 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Great discussion. These guys will pay you $500 if you use their system fully and don't earn your money back. The call was pretty good and the launch is scheduled for noon today (Wed 12/10 EST). If you signed-up through their box at ArbitrageAgain.com you should get the full info.

Some of the hype has bothered me a little - but can you imagine if you can do even 10% of what they do? I'd ba happy to do 1%. I will be signing up.

I don't they will have an artificial "scarcity" pitch, but the doors will close within a couple of weeks, because this is a 12 week class where you watch these guys do this and follow the results of their campaigns.


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the affiliate program associated with this is not allowing signups.
Via FF 3.0 and IE 7

keeps trying to download "signup.php" or times out.
Cursal - Works for me - try Arbitrage-Conspiracy.com (hyphen important if you want the bonus)

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Old 12-10-2008, 03:31 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Now if you want to advertise affiliate links with AdWords you need to create landing pages where the user has to click through to get to parent company (thus requiring 2 clicks to get to desired product/service -- how does this enhance the "user experience" Google ?!?). Then you face the frustrating challenge of getting a high enough quality score to not get hit with $10.00 minimum bids.
Not only that, but you Google will slap you if all you have is a squeeze page set up to shuffle users to the affiliate site. You need to have a landing page with content that provides a 'good user experience'. It's very competitive out there - people can manipulate the system so that your bids cost you more...throwing you out of the game quickly.

There is money - but you have to really know what you are doing before investing a lot of $$$ or chances are you are going to lose all of it.

Now...I'm always looking for more to learn BUT why would these guys who are earning TONS of cash turn around and offer a course? I don't care if they charged each member 20K (and they won't)...it still doesn't add up. And as someone else pointed out, even if you did only 1% of what they did, all is good. But my guess is that what they are teaching is good information, works, and they've squeezed every last penny out of it that they could - knowing full well that its end is near...like everything else that makes the masses online big money.
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:54 AM   #30 (permalink)
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ive been interested in this sort of stuff a while now but i have never been able to afford any of the courses etc, there always thousands of $$$'s

i signed up to rocketprofit(.).com once and tried promoting one of there popular campaigns once using ppc and also residual traffic from a domain i had related to the offer but still didnt make a single $$, just lost loads instead
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this is very funny, just get the email below on the same email address I signed for the Arbitrage:

HI xxxxx,

I'll get straight to the point, you are about to be bombarded
with emails from every big named "GURU" under the sun
about the Arbitrage program.

Don't throw away $1,700 extra dollars that you could use
to stock your Christmas tree with presents or pay off
your debts!

There is a better, much more simple and cost effective
way to make a killing in the PPC to CPA game!

How about a 68 year old retired man that makes over
fifty thousand dollars a month with us, or a man
in Tennessee that made eight thousand dollars in his
first month and over thirteen thousand in his second month?

What about the man that set up the system with the click of
a mouse, and forgot about it, then realized a month later
it was running and found a load of cash in his affiliate account.

Or the man who made over a two hundred fifty dollars
a day with less than five keywords that only cost him 10 cents
a click!

Check out all of their success stories and audio testimonials
right here!

http://www.xxxxxxxxx.com

Click Flipping, and Undercover profits have now been
around over two years and it has resulted in
multiple six figure incomes for its customers and made
a lot of people a lot of money!

It was "The Original" PPC to CPA system that has now
been refined and simplified down to a simple set
of step by step instructions, and includes two killer
software programs that run the entire process for you!

It's available for a fraction of the cost the big named "Gurus"
will be asking you to spend tomorrow, and its not bloated
with an added 50% affiliate commission!

Don't get caught up in the bonus wars and hype tomorrow,
and find yourself another two thousand dollars in debt.

Instead, save yourself $1,700 and try out the original
system for a small monthly fee, that way you can earn your
way through the price of the product!

http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxx.com

This time don't let the hype and massive onslaught
of Guru emails get you caught up in to overpaying for
a product when you can do what any smart shopper would
do and get a better deal!

This year the credit card hangover in January does not
have to happen!

Join us now and lets make you the next success story!

Sincerely,

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I think there are similar programs. I'm not sure most of them are making the same kine of money. Aymen says that his motive is that he wants to "give back" to the community. He is a member of Yanik Silver's "mastermind" group and they emphasize giving back. He also says that there is plenty of money out there. I think he also wants an additional revenue stream, and I can under stand that too.

I'm still a little frustrated because the launch is noon today and they have not sent me details. Check your inbox if you have signed up with them to get the pdf file or the conference call and you should get details.
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Hey, is there a reason why Leonard Holmes gets to post his ad (and even stickied) here when the admin made it clear there is no advertisement in this forum?
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When I paid they gave me a choice of where to put it, and this was one of the choices.

Given that they made the decision that it is okay here, it would be nice if someone would delete these off-topic posts that detract from the discussion.
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I'm still a little frustrated because the launch is noon today and they have not sent me details. Check your inbox if you have signed up with them to get the pdf file or the conference call and you should get details.
Seems there is no information out there about cost of this information as of yet. They talk about the conference in Las Vegas they arranged on "two weeks notice" and got 150 top internet marketing pros to attend. Supposedly each paid $10,000 to attend = $1,500,000. Hmmm?
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I think that the cost will be between $1500 and $2000 for the 12 week course, and they will refund your money PLUS PAY YOU $500 if you follow the instructions and fail to earn your money back within a certain time. Full details will be available at launch, which I just discovered is 3pm EST (noon PST).

Leonard

Revision - there has been a delay. This almost seems predictable. I expect the shopping cart to be live soon.

(Huseyin moved this post back to Domain News once, and now someone has moved it again. It's no big deal, but it would be nice if the rules for paid sticky posts were a little clearer.)

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They finally published that price of course is $2k.
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You can also pay in three payments for a little more. Most people seem to be doing that.
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