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**maxf** · 11-20-2004, 11:57 AM

Hey all,

I'm sure that you are tired of reading posts dealing with paid traffic. There is a lot of discussion about traffic being fake or "blind", and generally just a waste of money. I thought that this might be a good time to step in and show what I've got for sale.

First, my site is www.SuperiorTraffic.net.

I will start by telling the honest truth. My site is a traffic reseller. We do not generate traffic! It is purchased from a company that has an advertising network set up. This company (that will remain undisclosed for obvious reasons) advertises on websites that are already receiving return traffic. The advertisements are shown on 800x600 popunders. I'm very sorry to say that I can't tell you what sites are used for advertising because our traffic company will not tell us. I was told that the reason they do this is that they can't surrender the names of the advertisers, otherwise your "average Joe" can advertise on the site.

I asked the company if I could try to find out where the traffic was coming from. They said that it wouldn't be a problem... So, I had a small page made (I don't program PHP or any other language) that asked you to enter what site was used to get to the current page. Out of 900 visitors, there were about thirty (30) people that entered the page. This allowed me to verify the quality of the traffic. I tried the same test for our previous traffic source, and there were no entries. I later found out that the traffic was driven by spyware. (Not to worry- the current traffic is NOT spyware driven!)

I would not sell this traffic if it wasn't real. Honesty is very important to me, especially in business. Trust is also as important as honesty. If you are interested in purchasing traffic but have some questions, don't hesitate to ask. It's not hard to answer a question if the truth is being told.

I guess I should mention more about the traffic. As of now, there are four different types of traffic available. US+Category targeted, US untargeted, category targeted, and untargeted traffic. Here are the basic prices:

US+Category targeted: $2.75 per 1000
US untargeted: $2.50 per 1000
Category Targeted: $2.50 per 1000
Untargeted Traffic: $2 per 1000

As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising.

Please note: Returning customers receive 10% off every order (excluding their first).

I hope that we can get a customer or two and get some feedback. Like I said, feel free to ask any quesitons. I'll answer them as soon as I can. Thanks for your time.

Once again, the site is www.SuperiorTraffic.net.

**GT Web** · 11-20-2004, 07:11 PM

I ordered traffic before from this member, it was spyware traffic of crappy quality. Max admitted this to me but would not give me a refund or refill my order, I dont recommend ordering this traffic.

**maxf** · 11-20-2004, 07:19 PM

Okay I have made the decision to stop posting here because every single time that I open a thread about this, I get bashed by the same person. GT_Web- your comments are uncalled for. I'm simply trying to resell a service that is beneficial for others.

There is no need for you to reply or attempt to report me again because I'm done here.

**JuniperPark** · 11-20-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maxf

Okay I have made the decision to stop posting here because every single time that I open a thread about this, I get bashed by the same person. GT_Web- your comments are uncalled for. I'm simply trying to resell a service that is beneficial for others.

There is no need for you to reply or attempt to report me again because I'm done here.

I notice you don't say that his comments are UNTRUE. It's tough selling a bad product on forums where people you've burned in the past hang out, isn't it?

**GT Web** · 11-20-2004, 09:11 PM

I am sorry I have to keep bringing it up, but when I got $30 of crappy traffic and the seller keeps advertising it to other members, I dont want anyone else to get scammed

**Steen** · 11-20-2004, 09:24 PM

Scammed?

That's being defrauded.

Regardless, I thought negative comments weren't allowed in advertising threads (this rule I disagree with, but never-the-less, it is in place).

**GT Web** · 11-20-2004, 10:24 PM

Steen - stop disagreeing with me based on the fact you dont seem to like me (I guess you are jealous of me or something).

I am entitled to say that the seller made untrue claims in his sales posts, I made my opinions known so that other DNF members will not be taken advantage of like me.

**fryman04** · 11-21-2004, 01:07 AM

Geez, Steen, WTF is your problem??!!!

Get a life, dude, GT_Web's comment's are sure useful so people can avoid getting scammed by this guy. Even more when he has the nerve to say "Honesty is very important to me, especially in business"

**maxf** · 11-21-2004, 12:09 PM

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I notice you don't say that his comments are UNTRUE. It's tough selling a bad product on forums where people you've burned in the past hang out, isn't it?

I don't care to argue my case anymore because it isn't worth it. This forum is the ONLY forum that I have trouble selling my product on, because of one single person. It's amazing how he has dealt with it. Some of my clients honestly don't have good experiences with my service, but they understand that they took a risk by trying my service and unfortunately it didn't pay off. None of these "unhappy" customers ever dedicate their time to making sure I don't sell traffic again though. I think doing that is immature and shows a lack of professionalism.

As long as I'm posting here, I'll mention that what I sell is not spyware traffic. In my original post, I stated that I originally used spyware traffic, although I wasn't aware of it at the time. As of now, I know that the source of traffic is popunders. I've been selling the same traffic for over five months and have just over 175 customers. And, out of all of my orders, 45% of them come from returning customers.

I'm not here to scam people. In fact, I'm not going to be here any longer like I said. I felt that this needed to be cleared up before peoples' reputations keep getting tarnished. This thread has gone downhill and I think it needs to be closed.

I apologize to the mods/admins at DNF because I don't think they should have to waste their time dealing with immature users. Goodbye.

**wildtrk2** · 11-21-2004, 12:24 PM

What is the turn around time on the traffic? How long does it take to deliver these hits. Also are these completely unique or will the same person see my page more than once?

**maxf** · 11-21-2004, 12:32 PM

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What is the turn around time on the traffic? How long does it take to deliver these hits. Also are these completely unique or will the same person see my page more than once?

(Thank you for helping to turn this thread around. I think this is good enough reason for me to come back.)

Visitors can be delivered fairly quickly, although the amount that can be delivered per day varies from day to day. To give you a rough idea, on a normal day, anywhere between 5000-7000 visitors can be sent. There are variables that affect this such as traffic load on the publishers' websites, how many other customers are sending traffic, etc etc.

As for the turn around time, I can't give a definite answer because there is no guarantee that the traffic will have any kind of result. An unsuccessful traffic campaign is pretty uncommon, and there's a fine example of someone who had an unsuccessful campaign who has been posting in this thread.

Finally, about the unique-ness of visitors, traffic is 24-hour unique. This policy means that we won't sent the same visitor more than once over a 24-hour period.

Let me know if you still have any questions. You might want to check out the FAQ page as well. Thanks for your interest.

**JuniperPark** · 11-21-2004, 08:06 PM

Let's hear some testimonials from the "175 customers" here. With that many happy people I'm sure they would be willing to vouch for you. Unless.....

**maxf** · 11-21-2004, 08:20 PM

I have four pages of testimonials from the older design of Superior Traffic if you're interested. I decided not to integrate them with the new site because I wasn't sure how effective they would be.

**JuniperPark** · 11-21-2004, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by maxf

I have four pages of testimonials from the older design of Superior Traffic if you're interested. I decided not to integrate them with the new site because I wasn't sure how effective they would be.

You can make up something pasted on your site. Have them post here, in this thread, from their own ESTABLISHED and verified accounts.

**maxf** · 11-21-2004, 08:28 PM

I'm curious if you even have any interest in the validity of my product? Or are you just scrutinizing my service and trying to tarnish my reputation on this forum?

**DJ-Sound** · 11-21-2004, 08:32 PM

I've ordered over 35,000 visitors with SuperiorTraffic.net and its by far the best traffic source I've come by. Its superfast and has generated many leads with my websites. I don't get why your bashing this company, if your intrested I have a real list of traffic sources that use spyware and hitbots and can prove it. I don't get why you guys are making such claims. I can vouch for SuperiorTraffic.net and still use their services frequently.

**GT Web** · 11-21-2004, 08:36 PM

then how come 10,000 visitors did not make one single click on my site?

in fact, the AWStats program showed I got 10125 visits that day, but only 6429 uniques...how strange...

**maxf** · 11-21-2004, 08:37 PM

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then how come 10,000 visitors did not make one single click on my site?

I'm not sure, as I've never met the people who were sent to visit your site- sorry.

Edit: Nor do I dictate what actions people take when they are browsing the web.

**SirSpider** · 11-21-2004, 09:54 PM

I feel I must respond to posts in this thread.

I first ordered from Max last summer and have since reordered twice. Both reorders were for multiple sites. So I do not feel as though I were scammed. The initial service was great and the flow of traffic continued as promised.

I did notice that the extra traffic to my travel sites did not increase conversions. But the number of bookmarks set was at the same level as for people finding my site through links or through search engines. So the traffic did serve a purpose.

The big plus I found was that traffic to my TeachTime Encyclopedia (www.TeachTime.com) not only set bookmarks but also clicked on the Adsense and SearchFeed links. The traffic actually paid for itself in ad clicks. Plus I am sure many of those bookmarks are coming back.

I also believe the traffic helped me launch www.GoGolfVacations.com. I hooked up with a new fulfillment company on September 1st and to date have had over 800K worth of quote requests (wish that was converted sales). I have been told that is the fastest start of any of their new affiliates. I cannot state that the purchased traffic was directly responsible for those stats, but I did kick off the site with 20,000 visitors from SuperiorTraffic.net. I just recently tried the same with www.GoSkiVacations.com - but have not had enough feedback from the company yet to evaluate results.

I have no experience with Max's former supplier, but his current one is (IMHO) providing decent traffic, not "crap" traffic. If I wasn't satisfied with the product I would not have reordered. And I am about to reorder again to help kick off www.InternetHotelSolutions.com - if I ever get it together.

The buyer must realize, however, that the traffic is not nearly as targeted as traffic that finds your site on a search engine - or through PPC advertising - but it doesn't cost nearly as much either - in time or in dollars.

Just my 2-cents worth...

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**JuniperPark** · 11-21-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by maxf

I'm curious if you even have any interest in the validity of my product? Or are you just scrutinizing my service and trying to tarnish my reputation on this forum?

I've posted nothing negative about your reputation. Yes, I've done over $10,000 business on this forum. See, you now have relatively positive posts about your product, so my suggestion is working in your favor.