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Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!Yes, in fact.Originally Posted by mikesherov
I said he did many things right, in fact almost everything. Too bad for the bad ending. He disappointed me and I think it was a big (and overall counterproductive) mistake. Just as it was a mistake when towards the beginning he launched a pixel picture contest. I wrote Alex about that, he was thinking the same thing and took it off right away.
I agree it is not fraud, and never thought or said otherwise.
So I guess you are replying to Duncan here.
No, you are wrong here.
In fact Alex wrote: "there are still 1,000 pixels available. However new orders have been suspended due to exceptional demand, so the last 1,000 pixels will be made available tommorrow"
And then the next day: "demand has completely outstripped supply [..] There are still literally hundreds of people e-mailing me wanting pixels on the homepage [...] Therefore, I am doing the most fair and logical thing and auctioning the last 1,000 pixels off on eBay"
Ok, so you are saying that he had planned to sell those pixels at a premium, but he might have decided just at the very end to do so through ebay rather than in some other way. Well, who knows, but that's not the point. The point is that he had planned of selling them at a premium; it's not important if through ebay or eboy or egirl.
Yes, congrats to him nonetheless, even on my part.
It's that I am a perfectionist and if he had not done this final mistake that transformed it in the "million dollar home page...no more" it would have been perfect.
He deceived, that is fraud.but in no way constitutes fraud.
A Simple google search can give you the exact meaning for "Deception"
3. That which deceives or is intended to deceive; false representation; artifice; cheat; fraud. "There was of course room for vast deception." Motley.
Last edited by Duncan; 01-03-2006 at 10:17 PM.
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he's rich
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The fun thing is that he's now got plenty of money to sue anyone defaming/libelling him :bandit:
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Not to nitpick, but this still doesn't prove that he intended to decieve about the availability of the last 1K pixels. He mentions that the pixels are available, but orders have been suspended due to demand. Then the next day he says that he figured out what to do with them considering the overwhelming demand... sell them on ebay.
He never says in the beginning that he was planning on selling them the normal way, but only that they would "be available tomorrow".
The analogy would be me buying a bunch of real estate, and plan on selling the real estate at $1 per square foot (or whatever more realisitc number you can come up with). I realize that the plot nearest the waterfront is more valuable, so I decide not to sell that spot till the end. All of a sudden, everyone and their mother is buying my land. At the end, everyone is asking for that waterfront piece. Being a smart guy and holding onto that land, I know now it is a lot more valuable than I originally thought, so I'm going to have a special auction for that piece of land.
In the beginning, I did not know what to do with it, but only that it had the potential to be more valuable than the rest so I'll hold onto it. Only at the end, when I see the overwhelming demand did I decide that any price I can set on it may be too low or too high, so I'll auction it off and let the market decide.
Seems very fair to me. Duncan's email communication with Alex does not have any "deception" or "fraud" in it. And I'm sure Alex's reply about "not having his own affiliate links" was as defensive as it was because of all the other people (read: not duncan) accusing him of putting his own affiliate links up there.
The guy had a good idea and had a friend in journalism who broke the story, that may be the most you can accuse him of in terms of artificial gain. But even that is just "using your network". Other millionaires use their networks all the time.
Look, what he should have said for fairness, but intentionally never said, is that he had reserved 1000 pixels for himself since the beginning, and these were the pixels he was putting up for sale on ebay.
That's all, and it's pretty simple.
Not at all, there is no artifical gain or friend in journalism that made the difference. The success is all due to the exceptional idea and the fact that he executed it well.
Entrepeneurship in its purest form.
He deserved all the million+ he has hearned.
I dont read mush so just got around to reading this small piece of artwork.
I personally have never been to the website, or cared to advertise on the site.
Did anyone count to make sure there was only 1 million pixels? maybe he ended up with some extras?
Guess what it really does not matter, This is a domain forum, and maybe you should fight a bigger battle that is killing us now more than this guy finding away to sell advertising.
You can see that what he did with the last 1,000 pixels is the same as Snapnames or Enom or and of the other domain drop sites is doing now.
They get the premium names from the registar before they drop to the public and sell them at a premium.
Tew took the last 1,000 Top Pixels, and selling them at auction for a premium, not against the law.
I own a computer company, I can raise rates anytime I want to. Supply and demand, unless it is during a natural disaster. Then there are laws to stop that. (but only on food gas and shelter)
So give this guy a break, let him do his thing, and get over it.
Unless you can show a clear TOS that has been broken, you are basically slandering this man for no reason and you diserve for him to sue you.
Very noble Slim, but disclosure is the name of the game here. Read back through the 'mush'.
Why is disclosure the name of the game?
Because you decided that's what it should be?
Azooza I read every post.
I think I get something in the mail every other week from my credit card companies about Changes to the TOS or disclosure agreements.
He has that same right maybe he mis labeled you mail so you did not get your notice.
I just read through this complete thread. I only have one thing to add:
He's rich and I'm jealous.
Do you believe ppl would not have bought the other 999000 pixels because of that? I mean would it have changed anything?
I have a hard time understanding how this affects ppl who have bought pixels in any way? I mean ppl were able/had the chance to by their pixels before all this... Ppl paid for their pixels and received what they were expecting and even more in some cases... I dont understand how anyone can feel scammed in this...
Last edited by Arsenik; 01-05-2006 at 01:58 PM.
LOL! Exactly...
His auction is now at $145,100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calling it a scam is "as" missleading as what you claim he did...
He is now simply the same as 99% of all bussiness people greedy for
more money while he has the oportunity to make it, and while this
may approche the grey line it does not cross it !
I explained the definition of scam more then I need to.Calling it a scam is "as" missleading as what you claim he did...
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UPDATE:
Now have #1 spot on google if you search for
Pixels Fraud
Pixel Fraud
Pixel Scripts Fraud
Pixel Scam
Pixels Scam
Now have #2 spot on google if you search for
Million Dollar Homepage Scam
Now have #6 spot on google if you search for
Million Pixels CNN
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That only means something if they are terms people search for. Now, if someone decides to report on it being a scam or something, then you'll really see some traffic I'm sure.
Scammers on eBay pawn their sites off by 'bragging' about being #1 for web design 4hire or free potato posters.
Nice job Duncan. That's how to ride the wave of the "next big thing"
Found this out by looking at my Weblizer, got a few hits from each term.That only means something if they are terms people search for.
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