Dnforum.com Changes coming to a few areas...

[Mike Cruz]

How about Tapatalk instead of ForumRunner? I have both, but I really like Tapatalk a lot better, especially on iPad2, with the HD version.

[James Jean]

I like this improvement. One request though, can mods clean up the thread before it's locked?
For example, the following seller may not like having the BIN price and domain permanently on the Internet for all to see.
A lot of people want to protect the pricing for future resell...

http://www.dnforum.com/f116/pure-typ...ad-476767.html

Agree, except for cases of blatant or proven attempt at scams. Let the attempting scammer get his/her reputation archived on the great wide web.

[Adam Dicker]

I will be posting the new updated rules tomorrow or Monday.

Adam

[ryanmlanane]

I like the idea - I really do ... However with that $40 I would like to see one thing, for the good of everyone.

On the main forum page a box on the right with "today's Sticky Threads" but something more exciting .. It's late I'm tired

Basically a way to create more exposure than in JUST that section for the bumps that paid $40

Reasoning ?

1) Greater benefit to those who paid forty (most obvious)
2) If someone is paying $40 to promote their domain for sale it is GOING TO BE A GOOD THREAD with sales most likely.

Number two is most important. It will show people that come here there is action and what price to set their domains at for the type of sales they want as quickly as they want them.

All other business goes on as usual.

I get what you are doing and it makes sense, but maybe a $25 single bump - then a $40 bump for what I am talking about ... or hell .. $40 / $50 it's your site.

If I am selling a $XXXX domain, I would pay the forty

[katherine]

I think the mention of reason for closed threads is a great improvement

As for the anti-bumping rules it might be a good idea to relax them a little bit because they are circumvented: members just create a new thread that is a copy of the previous one. IMO that pollutes the forum with redundant topics.

[Adam Dicker]

I think the mention of reason for closed threads is a great improvement

As for the anti-bumping rules it might be a good idea to relax them a little bit because they are circumvented: members just create a new thread that is a copy of the previous one. IMO that pollutes the forum with redundant topics.

The creating of similar thread will result in thread closings so it won't benefit them.

Adam

[Acro]

Does the exclusion of Exclusives from the "3x times bump" still apply? I saw this thread was closed for that reason: http://www.dnforum.com/f529/uui-com-...ad-476154.html

[silentg]

Does the exclusion of Exclusives from the "3x times bump" still apply? I saw this thread was closed for that reason: http://www.dnforum.com/f529/uui-com-...ad-476154.html

He had two active threads with the same domain.

[Acro]

I noticed that, was referring to the reason given in that closed thread.

[GeoOwners]

I like the idea - I really do ... However with that $40 I would like to see one thing, for the good of everyone.

On the main forum page a box on the right with "today's Sticky Threads" but something more exciting .. It's late I'm tired

Basically a way to create more exposure than in JUST that section for the bumps that paid $40

Reasoning ?

1) Greater benefit to those who paid forty (most obvious)
2) If someone is paying $40 to promote their domain for sale it is GOING TO BE A GOOD THREAD with sales most likely.

Number two is most important. It will show people that come here there is action and what price to set their domains at for the type of sales they want as quickly as they want them.

All other business goes on as usual.

I get what you are doing and it makes sense, but maybe a $25 single bump - then a $40 bump for what I am talking about ... or hell .. $40 / $50 it's your site.

If I am selling a $XXXX domain, I would pay the forty

It will be interesting to see how many people will pay $40 to bump a thread

[dmyre]

Does the exclusion of Exclusives from the "3x times bump" still apply? I saw this thread was closed for that reason: http://www.dnforum.com/f529/uui-com-...ad-476154.html

So now this thread is archived with a purchase price?!?!!

This is not beneficial for people trying to sell domains, and may result in people abandoning DNF.
By having that price archived, it sets a ceiling for all future negotiations, and that's never a good thing.
PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS RULE (or at least provide exclusive members the right to edit closed threads).

[Acro]

Well, it's a sensitive issue that can be taken care of by reporting the closed thread to request its editing.

[dmyre]

Well, it's a sensitive issue that can be taken care of by reporting the closed thread to request its editing.

That seems more problematic, as 4 individual posts in that thread would need to be edited by the mods.
Their workload would increase everytime they closed an account. Any other ideas?
I really don't want to see DNF follow the path of the over policed NP's, and fear that it will drive some people away.

[pavsta]

I like the idea - I really do ... However with that $40 I would like to see one thing, for the good of everyone.

On the main forum page a box on the right with "today's Sticky Threads" but something more exciting .. It's late I'm tired

Basically a way to create more exposure than in JUST that section for the bumps that paid $40

Reasoning ?

1) Greater benefit to those who paid forty (most obvious)
2) If someone is paying $40 to promote their domain for sale it is GOING TO BE A GOOD THREAD with sales most likely.

Number two is most important. It will show people that come here there is action and what price to set their domains at for the type of sales they want as quickly as they want them.

All other business goes on as usual.

I get what you are doing and it makes sense, but maybe a $25 single bump - then a $40 bump for what I am talking about ... or hell .. $40 / $50 it's your site.

If I am selling a $XXXX domain, I would pay the forty

i agree

[Mark Talbot]

My only real concern, is that will this lead to an over policed forum?,.. or a barely used forum.

The latter should be a concern for the site imho.

[iridium]

He had two active threads with the same domain.

Yes indeed, I originally had that thread in the "short domains make-offer" section and later added the one in "exclusives" since my original thread was getting lost and I really did not want to abuse bumping it.

It's probably my fault that I was not up to date with the new rules, but if you look at my thread http://www.dnforum.com/f529/uui-com-...ad-476154.html you will notice that it is not like I bumped it every two hours or something and I always added pertinent info.

Regarding not being able to update a thread with an offer that came via PM, as Stian said PM offers happen all the time. Maybe it's not the case in $xx or $xxx level deals, but when you are transacting $xxxx + domains, its a constant. For the honest participants it's not the matter that "80% of all people that say they got a higher bid in PM are bullshitters".

Adam, feel free to look at the PMs in my inbox. I did get the $10k offer for the domain and updated the thread accordingly. And to tell you the truth, I did get offers below $10k outside of the forum and I avoided updating the thread because I had clearly posted that I was looking for offers starting $xx,xxx and thus those lower offers were not relavent and would have just been free bumps...

As others have said this type of rule is just going to penalize honest posters for the sake of some abusers. The sales forum has already lost some momentum and this will aggravate things. For momentum to stay, sellers actually have to end up closing sales, it has to be win-win, otherwise they will stop posting quality domains for sale and you will be left with a dead marketplace.

The serious people around here (and there are a number posting in this thread) don't have the time or the will to "bullshit". This business is, to a large extent, built around trust. I believe you should rethink such rules or at least take into account membership level.

BTW, regarding my closed thread, as Dmyre said, this is not a good thing at all to have the various prices locked up forever in that thread. I'm actually probably going to take this name off the market if it doesn't sell in the next few days and I would not want those prices to stay posted. So any admin feel free to delete the thread or allow me to edit things out. Thank you.

[Mark Talbot]

Adam,.. a suggestion.

I knew and know many forums have specific rules that may or may not cause a thread to be posted. Or maybe just certain specifics of usage.

Instead of just having the forum open to members posting, with the specific rules or requirements listed somewheres else, or buried somewhere in posts or faq's, why not making it more prominent to all viewers who are reading / posting.

Knowing how vBulletin works, it seems this would be a perfect use of the Notices feature built in. A notice could be made in lets say, domains & Websites Wanted forum, that would simply say, "Starting threads in this forum requires a budget be included in the initial post". Plus any other pertinant info. vBulletin will also allow you to show this to only persons with the permission to start threads to see this notice.

It doesnt appear and appears DNF hasnt and isnt using this feature currently, and would be better than someone posting and then it gets closed, limiting the number of closed threads I see when I search. Many of those threads are a result of one not easily finding, not knowing of, or rules buried in the archic faq system. It is just to easy to make a mistake, and a gentle reminder at the top of the forum below ther breadcrumb will likely make for less work for the mods, and better posts within guidelines for memebers.

Just a thought, since the tools are already at hand.

Mark

[silentg]

Domainstate uses similar feature that Mark suggests: When you try to create a new sales thread, you'll get this text below inside the text box.

Domain:
Offers from:
BIN:
Terms:

Traffic:
Revenue:
Creation date:
Expiry date:
Registrar:

[ninjadomain]

I say let's keep it simple.

[Mark Talbot]

I say let's keep it simple.

Simple yes. But simple means you dont have to search faqs or threads just to figure out if you can or cant make a thread.
Simple means its obvious, and the notices feature is simple for the admin to implement as it is built in the software already, and makes it simple for the member to understand what is expected of them.