===>>> Do we really need 18 domain for sale sections? <<<===

**Adam Dicker** · 03-08-2011, 10:08 PM

I would like to re-org it but am unsure where to start, suggestion woul be much appreacaited.

You be dnf king for a day and see what you would re-org.

I get confused about what section to post and it pisses me off sometimes.

I am not sold on the fixed offer sections versu the make offer sections.

Personally I feel the fixed prices sections should stay but the offers only section seems like it's for people that don't know how to price their own names for the figure they want to get.

Everywhere I go to sell soimething I need to state a price, If i want to sell my ipad on kijiji, I have to put a price and then I may get lower offers, but I have to price it.

Seems dumb to me say here's my ipad post an offer cause in my head I know what price I wont accept so why waste everyones time.

This is why we sometimes get lowballers, without pricing you invite lowballers.

My theory is post it for sale or if yiou just want feedback, post in appraisals.

Anyone agree, disagree?

I am in heavy re-rog mode this week so lots of things will be moving or killed.

Speak up now if you have ideas, I am all ears and dying for feedback.

Not sure if we need to keep 3 lounges either.

Thgis re-org is the first step to adding a really great marketplace to dnf for very little cost to members.

I am anxious to get your thoughts.

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**urlurl** · 03-08-2011, 10:47 PM

i think there should be be a price range for listings in the offer section ie $xxx or $x,xxx or $xx,xxx etc. - at least it gives people an idea of what they are looking for.
also - 5L names and shorter 2.0 names have grown in popularity in the last bit - is there any room for a shorter name (other than 4L's) section

**DNP** · 03-08-2011, 11:26 PM

If you decide to kill the "Offers wanted" idea then it should be substiteted with "Auction" type posts, with preset BINs, min offers, steps and etc. that are currently used at soem other business/domain boards.

**Adam Dicker** · 03-09-2011, 08:09 AM

Still need more opinions.

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**Gerry** · 03-09-2011, 08:21 AM

Keep offers wanted but use the ideas from post two to incorporate ranges.

Most of the time, offers wanted becomes nauseating as the seller has no idea what they are wanting for the name and the keep em coming BS is getting old.

Honestly, the biggest change I would love to see is time limits set on threads...offers wanted, sales threads, domains wanted all locked down after x number of days. Seeing threads 6 years old restarted by newbs. And seeing threads 2 or 3 years old bumped by the person that started it! ...Still Available...

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Definitely keep the fixed price sections (< and > $100). As well as the AS IS dropping for $20 bucks.

Exclusive sales? Not worth a hoot. Views are minimal.

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Not sure why you need a vast number of ccTLD's sales venues. Get back to the basics of just a general ccTLD section. Same rules apply in regards to offers, fixed prices, and thread lock down after x number of days.

**ninjadomain** · 03-09-2011, 08:24 AM

I actually like the make offer section as long as the seller gives a range/bin after a few offers have been made.

It might be a possibility to have make offer subsections: under $100, over $100, etc.

I also get minimal views on the exclusive sales thread.

I like the auction idea.

**biggedon** · 03-09-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by DotComGod

I would like to re-org it but am unsure where to start, suggestion woul be much appreacaited.

You be dnf king for a day and see what you would re-org.

I get confused about what section to post and it pisses me off sometimes.

I am not sold on the fixed offer sections versu the make offer sections.

Personally I feel the fixed prices sections should stay but the offers only section seems like it's for people that don't know how to price their own names for the figure they want to get.

Everywhere I go to sell soimething I need to state a price, If i want to sell my ipad on kijiji, I have to put a price and then I may get lower offers, but I have to price it.

Seems dumb to me say here's my ipad post an offer cause in my head I know what price I wont accept so why waste everyones time.

This is why we sometimes get lowballers, without pricing you invite lowballers.

My theory is post it for sale or if yiou just want feedback, post in appraisals.

Anyone agree, disagree?

I am in heavy re-rog mode this week so lots of things will be moving or killed.

Speak up now if you have ideas, I am all ears and dying for feedback.

Not sure if we need to keep 3 lounges either.

Thgis re-org is the first step to adding a really great marketplace to dnf for very little cost to members.

I am anxious to get your thoughts.

-=DCG=-

Hi

i would start by reducing the various cctld sales section to one area, or eliminating them altogether since many post them within the fixed price or offers wanted areas.

to counter your argument about "pricing" a domain

even in fixed price section, i've seen bids made that were/are lower than posted bin.
also, when i get offers here, thru sedo, or other avenues, you always have to respond with a price and the majority of times the counter offer is still lower.

i know you feel me on that.

Originally Posted by urlurl

i think there should be be a price range for listings in the offer section ie $xxx or $x,xxx or $xx,xxx etc. - at least it gives people an idea of what they are looking for.

i think that may be a viable option to replace fixed price areas but allow members to still put a bin.

as for the lounges, not much happens in any, besides Exclusive, that can't be condensed into one.

for auction areas, just combine the $1, the External Links and on-site auction areas into one.

just a few thoughts for now...

**Stian** · 03-09-2011, 08:35 AM

I think you should keep the following:

Exclusive sales
So exclusives have a place to list domains that are private and unindexed

Domains for Sale (Domain Sales) - Offers Wanted
One of the most popular sections. Obviously a keeper.

Domains for Sale (Domain Sales) - Fixed Prices Above $100
Also a very popular section.

Domains for Sale (Domain Sales) - Short Domains; 4 Characters or Less - Make Offer
Maybe you should drop the "Short domains (fixed prices)" section and merge it with this one. It's nice to have a section where we can list and look for LL/LLL/LLLL etc. only. I don't see why we need two forums for short domains though (fixed price and make offer). One section should be enough (sellers can use fixed prices/make offer as they wish).

Domains with Traffic (Traffic Domains)
Not very big fan of this category, but I still think it's a keeper.

Domains for sale (ccTLD and sTLD Domain Sales)
I'm not personally into ccTLDs, but many are and we need a separate forum for these names.

Adult Domain Sales and Domain Offers
I don't want to see all the CumJizzF*ckDripping.com names when I browse names for sale, so this section should be kept as well.

Numeric Domains for Sale
Numerics are getting more and more popular. Some domainers deal with numerics only, so this section should be kept.

Geo Domains for Sale
Same here, keep this one as well. Need a place to filter out geo domains from the rest.

Developed Websites for Sale
Many are looking for developed websites, many are selling them (although most are unfortunately lame Wordpress mockups and made-for-Adsense sites)

Domain Name Auctions
I think we should keep this section, BUT make this the place where people can post/advertise external auctions (sedo etc.). I don't think the DNforum auction threads here has ever attracted many bidders or good domains, so you might as well lose it and turn this section ("Domain name auctions") section into the section where users can post/advertise external auctions.

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The above should be kept for the above reasons and I think the rest of the sales sections can go without having too many users complaining. The <$100 sections and $20 names sections etc. interest very few DNF'ers as far as I know. There are other forums for "penny domain" trading and I see no reason to have these sections here. People can of course still list their $20 domains in the "fixed prices" or "make offer" sections though.

**biggedon** · 03-09-2011, 08:59 AM

domains wanted section

really like this area because this is where i've sold the most domains on the forum

so i'd like to see the old threads closed so new members won't keep bumping them up, with no reply from the OP.

**Stian** · 03-09-2011, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by biggedon

domains wanted section

really like this area because this is where i've sold the most domains on the forum

so i'd like to see the old threads closed so new members won't keep bumping them up, with no reply from the OP.

Yes, definitely a keeper. BTW I thought Adam meant only the sales sections. Of course we want the Domains Wanted and the Appraisals section (at least I do).

**askynot** · 03-09-2011, 09:16 AM

Personally, I would get rid of the offers wanted "no price" section. I do like the idea of instead making this some kind of auction area, but there are other sites that can handle that functionality - so all the seller really needs is a place to provide some details and a link to their auction site of choice (many already do this). Bottom line...I'd rather see a price or a price range (i.e. asking $xx,xxx).

**Stian** · 03-09-2011, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by askynot

Personally, I would get rid of the offers wanted "no price" section. I do like the idea of instead making this some kind of auction area, but there are other sites that can handle that functionality - so all the seller really needs is a place to provide some details and a link to their auction site of choice (many already do this). Bottom line...I'd rather see a price or a price range (i.e. asking $xx,xxx).

I don't think the "Make offer" section should go at all, but instead, as you say; make it a requirement that the seller has to state price range.

**Gerry** · 03-09-2011, 09:26 AM

Damn sure keep the NFL pool...

**Adam Dicker** · 03-09-2011, 09:27 AM

One of my issues is that I want it to be easy for people to decide where to post a domain for sale and right now it isn't.

They need to play 20 questions to do it right.

Example, worm.com

Does that go in High Traffic domains, domains for sale offers wanted, domains for sale fixed prices, short domains?

Too many options, where should it go to get the most exposure.

This should be one answer but it's not.

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**Acro** · 03-09-2011, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Exclusive sales? Not worth a hoot. Views are minimal.

One such hoot landed me a $xx,xxx sale

**draggar** · 03-09-2011, 09:58 AM

My suggestion - consolidate the ccTLD sections and maybe add or ghange the fixed prices section:

Below $500 / Above $500

Or Below $100, between $100 and $1000 and over $1000

Keep offers wanted.

**Acro** · 03-09-2011, 10:02 AM

My suggestion:

Have a marketplace ONLY for com/net/org - split between "offers" and "fixed" prices.
Another one for other non-ccTLDs (split as above)
A third one for ccTLDs (again split in two)
A final one for IDN domains.

So that's a total of 8 vs. 18

**Aleksandar** · 03-09-2011, 10:18 AM

In case that you would like to re-organize the entire forum, you can try to merge all forums/subforums with minimal threads into relevant bigger ones. This way you can make it easier overall to navigate through the site.

For example, you can merge General Domain Name Discussion with TLD Discussion and it's subforums. As far as I can see, TLD discussion doesn't have any threads in it's root, while General Domain Name Discussion does.

You can also rename Traffic Monetization PPC into Traffic Monetization PPC/PPS and move all PPS threads into it (since there are only 30 or so threads in it).

You can save a few spots this way and improve the overall look. The more brainstorming you perform, the more cleaner the site will be.

If I were the "dnf king" I would aim for sales forums at the top, all discussions in the middle (perhaps 2 main categories like "Domain Name Discussions" and below "Webmaster Discussions" where all of the "content" discussion forums can be re-arranged), and the last 2 categories at the bottom of the forum like this:

Members:

Introduce Yourself
Lounge
Language Forums
Advertising and Related Offers
Help Wanted!
Library (merge Domain ebooks and Articles into it)

DnForum:

Announcements (formerly Forum Announcements)
Suggestions and Feedback
DNForum Content Mini Websites
Domain Consulting Group
DNF Domainer's Groups

Something like that.

**David G** · 03-09-2011, 10:23 AM

For me it makes little if any difference how you reorg the forum since I don't recall the last time I looked at any of the sale sections or other categories. The reason for that is I use Today's Posts 100% of the time and have been doing that for ages here and other forums too. By doing so I never miss any thread or new post in any category.

If the subject line or the mouse-over alt text tag does not seem interesting, worthwhile or what I was looking for I simply don't click on it and look at the next one in today's posts, etc, etc etc.

**Adam Dicker** · 03-09-2011, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by David G

For me it makes little if any difference how you reorg the forum since I don't recall the last time I looked at any of the sale sections or other categories. The reason for that is I use Today's Posts 100% of the time and have been doing that for ages here and other forums too. By doing so I never miss any thread or new post in any category.

That's all I do as well.

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