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Old 02-24-2006, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

In order to cut down more on fraud domains stats I am propopsing the following:

We can confirm stats for any domain for sale that is with us if the seller pushes the domain to us for realtime stats analysys.

With my expertise on traffic analysys, I can report on where the traffic is coming from and what the traffic is. I can also tell if click fraud is involved in most cases and if the distribution of traffic by countries seems right. I can also tell if most of the traffic is bookmark traffic or search engine traffic.

I feel this would go along way in determining if a domain listed with 300 uniques a day as valid traffic.

If it is valid, I am thinking of putting a green checkmark in the thread subject line that will tell people this domain has been traffic verified. The checkmark will then link to a page that shows the actual stats as reported by Dnforum for that domain.

This is not necessary for all sales, especially those under $20, but it is a great safety net for those over $100.

Please again, poke this idea with a stick or carry it high in the air and praise it.

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Old 02-24-2006, 12:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice idea.
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Old 02-24-2006, 12:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

Great IDea ADAM I had an idea like this called Traffic Escrow this way the traffic is third party verified I was going to pm you this when I read the DN verify stuff but you never reply to my pms. hahaha I think another hting would be ForumEscorw a great business for High Imapact and DNF create the first forum escorw service you could tie the Traffic escrow In there too that would be real protection and a potential money maker for you 2% instead of 3% so a value to domainers too,
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Old 02-24-2006, 12:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

DCG,

I have to give credit where it is do. Thank you for all that you are doing to clean up the industry. The verification seal was a great start. This just tops it off!

If you want to call it something, I'll happily donate TrafficChamp.com to you for starters in case you want to offer this service at some point outside of DNForum.

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Old 02-24-2006, 01:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

DCG,

Would this be by changing DNS servers or would you also allow forwarding?

I would prefer to use DNS only, however, I have lots of .de names that have strict DNS rules suchs as servers in seperate subnets and strict ttl repoonses.
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Old 02-24-2006, 01:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Would this be by changing DNS servers or would you also allow forwarding?

I would prefer to use DNS only, however, I have lots of .de names that have strict DNS rules suchs as servers in seperate subnets and strict ttl repoonses.
Will get back to you on that one.

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Old 02-24-2006, 10:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think no matter how trustable Adam is, some owners would have problems pushing the domain to someone else's account out of principle so DNS forwarding would be the best.
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This idea is brilliant and I hope it's made mandatory. You don't need to push anything, just change the nameservers.
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I think no matter how trustable Adam is, some owners would have problems pushing the domain to someone else's account out of principle so DNS forwarding would be the best.
Hi,

I see what you mean and can understand why some may be concerned about pushing the domain, however, if you cannot push a domain to the owner of dnforum for increased security purposes to help protect you, I find it hard to believe how you can conduct a transaction with someone with not being concerned of something going wrong.

There is no chance you would risk losing the domain by pushing the domain especially with DNF's reputation on the line.

This is a great way of verifying stats for the domain before you conduct your transaction.
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Re: Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

It seems like a good solution, but ican already find a problem, a little while ago, there was the msn scam for to make people mods, well, in alot of cases that worked, so if you think along those lines, this is not very safe at all, also for some reason i cant see the attached image, it says not enough priveledges, not sure why.
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Old 02-25-2006, 12:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It seems like a good solution, but ican already find a problem, a little while ago, there was the msn scam for to make people mods, well, in alot of cases that worked, so if you think along those lines, this is not very safe at all, also for some reason i cant see the attached image, it says not enough priveledges, not sure why.

I have no idea what you mean, what does an msn scammer have to do with you changing your dns to our nameservers to run a stats scan?

Please stay on topic.

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Re: Domain Stats Verification - Discussion Only

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It seems like a good solution, but ican already find a problem, a little while ago, there was the msn scam for to make people mods, well, in alot of cases that worked, so if you think along those lines, this is not very safe at all, also for some reason i cant see the attached image, it says not enough priveledges, not sure why.
Was this the same when i got scammed by you or your username or someone who hacked your account and u take no responsibility for same.
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It's a great idea Adam and another solid step in the growth of this forum. Do you ever sleep?!
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Not as much as I should.

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how long would such a test take?
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24 hours.

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with a turn around like that, I think this is a pretty sweet deal.

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with a turn around like that, I think this is a pretty sweet deal.

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And it can stay for sale with the checkmark, the checkmark will be added after the test.

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i was just thinking on it again, if a domain were to show as fraudulant, would you put something like a red x, or some other icon indicating that the domain did not pass the test.
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Good question, as a group we will need to post what you think should be done.

My guess is fake domains won't be submitted that much for testing

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