Should Teens 17 and under be allowed to do business- Cast your vote now.

**Donald Aquilano** · 03-09-2008, 03:08 PM

No,no,no kids that age are not mature enough to make business decisions

**revolution1** · 03-09-2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by wmloz

NO, unless you have a verifiable authorization form from their legal guardian on file making them responsible for any bs. I think it's great for youngsters to learn the value of free commerce, but somebody other than moderaters need to make sure they keep their nose clean.

My thoughts exactly. I remember when i was under 18 and thought the world against me b/c of my age however looking back i do think that i could have conducted business. I went to sign up for a trading account at the bank at 17 but could not unless my parents were involved. That quashed the idea since my parents thought my money amounted to a pittance anyways, in this case they were right. In short sure allow them if their gaurdian becomes responsible for their wrong doings however i think that it will be a difficult thing to enforce on the internet. Think about it how many sixteen year olds could have sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of real estate. One look at them in the first face to face meeting and chances are no deal would occur. In the age of invasion of privacy and conversley the age of faceless negotiations i think that a system needs to be devised in order to verify someones age. Although it will be a difficult task for you Adam. Sorry for the word jumble but its a complex issue and i was writing stream of concious.

thanks

**TheSnake** · 03-09-2008, 03:19 PM

A definite NO.

The immaturity level on the forums is too high right now.

**Banned: domain newbie** · 03-09-2008, 03:19 PM

why i cant vote ??

Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

**furca** · 03-09-2008, 03:26 PM

No,no,no kids that age are not mature enough to make business decisions

That's a generalization. I bet about 35% of members here are under 18.

**ddaybofb** · 03-09-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by bd77

No,no,no kids that age are not mature enough to make business decisions

I think we are certainly able to make business decisions. I have already made a few.

Originally Posted by TheSnake

A definite NO.

The immaturity level on the forums is too high right now.

So you think all the immaturity is from teenagers?!?!

**alexsimon** · 03-09-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheSnake

A definite NO.

The immaturity level on the forums is too high right now.

Immaturity has little relevance to age. In 9MM's case they worked together perfectly, but I dealt with very very immature adults.

**tinner666** · 03-09-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by amcdonald

i say no, unless you force under 18 to get DNF verified with proper parents info so there is a paper trail on how to contact their parents. (price of doing business if under 18)

I second the motion. Sitting at home watching Court TV while caring for the wife, there were many instances of cases being thrown out/dismissed when one signer of a contract was 17 or younger.
"The defendant is 17?? Sorry, you don't have any binding contract or case with them! Next time, get an agreement with an adult! Dismissed! .... Next Case?"

All these aliases shouldn't be allowed either. I don't mean the online handle(s), but so many on the web hide their state, country, etc.
Does anybody here know who I am?

**ddaybofb** · 03-09-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by tinner666

Does anybody here know who I am?

Yeah your frank from richmond, you live in the usa and your a verified DNF Member

**doobee** · 03-09-2008, 03:36 PM

No to under 18's. Yes to mandatory verification for all members.

**jasdon11** · 03-09-2008, 03:41 PM

I don't know if anyone has said this in the previous 2-3 pages, but if you take their money for membership, they ought to be able to do whatever everyone else can.

I started my first business at 16 importing shotgun cartridges by the container from Italy; didn't even need a licence at the time!

Their money is as good as anyone elses, and you can get let down by anyone.

**simon** · 03-09-2008, 03:47 PM

This needs to be fixed as well. Some people would rather prefer anonymous voting

alexsimon, ddaybofb, jasdon11, LintonInvestments, lordbyroniv, Mahouni, mediawizard, Muhammad Mustafa, seanboy, Toilet-Monster
10 28.57%
NO
alldig, bd77, biggedon, doobee, DotComGod, ecafe, EJS, gobrightwork, Gramma, jaxonrice, kamil, kevmacmeh, Lord Brar, mplswifi, mulligan, mxdominios, namewaiter, revolution1, Seraphim, smashfactory, stock_post, TheSnake, tinner666, Yofie, zymic

**DomainName** · 03-09-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Brar

I started my first business when I was 13 -- so I very well know the itch that teen entrepreneurs have to be given the same opportunities as the older entrepreneurs. However, another aspect to think over is that people younger than 18 can NOT get into legal-contracts.

Since we are a business forum, we would probably be encouraging illegal dealings or really complex situations -- as mikedee pointed out above -- if the member does not disclose his age and gets into contact without the consent of an adult. So, as much as I would hate to vote to allow teen entrepreneurs, I'd vote against it seeing our specific situation.

Completely agree 100%!!!!

**Banned: dshop** · 03-09-2008, 04:14 PM

no i think it will became a tragedy

**mulligan** · 03-09-2008, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by doobee

... Yes to mandatory verification for all members.

When I verified I faxed a phone bill (I think?) so it would be relatively easy for a scammer to do the same or similar .. The verification would have to a much improved system to make it of any use whatsoever .. I have no idea how to improve it but could probably come up with a few ideas if I thought about it.

**Acro** · 03-09-2008, 04:21 PM

I wrote an article about exactly the same situation; a few bad apples ruin it for the bunch.

But I think in a forum that relies a lot on one's credibility and overall stance in business transactions, restrictions can and should apply.

**Banned: domain newbie** · 03-09-2008, 04:26 PM

i think they should not be banned to sell ~ but have their underage notification next to itrader

p.s. THE POLL IS not valid- i can't vote !!

**Adam Dicker** · 03-09-2008, 04:28 PM

Has anyone used any of the existing verification systems available with any good results?

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**TheSnake** · 03-09-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by ddaybofb

So you think all the immaturity is from teenagers?!?!

Not all, just a majority.

Originally Posted by alexismon

Immaturity has little relevance to age.

Immaturity is very relevant to age. I believe we do not have to refer to any scientific studies to have this understanding. Generally, with age comes wisdom...and a greater ability to take responsibility and understand the repercussion of your actions.

**Adam Dicker** · 03-09-2008, 04:33 PM

Following up the last point, if anyone knows of a secure system for checking online identities, I am open toi bringing it aboard regardless of the cost.

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