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**tristanperry** · 03-10-2008, 03:38 AM

Adam:

Could you please confirm whether this would apply retro-actively? And if so, would you be re-funding the membership payments in full? I'd be happy to leave the forums for 1 month (until I turn 18), although not if I didn't get any sort of compensation for being temporarily banned (despite having 42+ positive transactions here

)

Also this poll as for under 17s... now people are talking about 18 and under. Which is it?

Thanks,
Tristan Perry

Rom · 03-10-2008, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristanperry

Adam:

Could you please confirm whether this would apply retro-actively? And if so, would you be re-funding the membership payments in full?

Also this poll as for under 17s... now people are talking about 18 and under. Which is it?

Thanks,
Tristan Perry

"Under 18" and "17 and under" is the same thing.

**GT Web** · 03-10-2008, 04:29 AM

I became a member here when I was 15 - I've made dozens and dozens and transactions on this forum and never had a problem. Of course there will always be young teenagers who try to scam people and do stupid crap, but then again there are plenty of older members who do the same thing.

What's next - saying you aren't allowed to do business on DNForum if you live in certain countries? Nigeria? Indonesia? Russia? China? - where does the discrimination end?

**FuseFX** · 03-10-2008, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT Web

]What's next - saying you aren't allowed to do business on DNForum if you live in certain countries? Nigeria? Indonesia? Russia? China? - where does the discrimination end?

You are not getting the point -- with older people, there is a legal recourse. What legal recourse do you have with a under 18 when they can't get into legal contracts in the very first place?

**draggar** · 03-10-2008, 05:18 AM

I voted NO mainly from a CYOA (Cover Your Own A$$) standpoint. Under 18 in many places (including the US) do not have to be held accountable for their actions. I could get scammed and there isn't much that could be done about it. Yes, I could go after the parents but that is a long shot.

It is sad to say that, though, since many people under 18 have contributed a lot to these forums, I think the current <18 crowd should be allowed to stay and do businesses as long as people understand the risks.

**tristanperry** · 03-10-2008, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rom

"Under 18" and "17 and under" is the same thing.

Gah, I should learn to read better

Thanks

Tristan

**ShytKicker** · 03-10-2008, 05:49 AM

YES, because I started in the domain busienss at age 17. I might've even been registered here at 17.

Also, anyone that is under 18 and wants to be a member, is a member here. Just like some people here mentioned, they were here since they were 15, 16..

Rom · 03-10-2008, 06:21 AM

What if you're 17 and are a full time developer/domainer?...

**acronym007** · 03-10-2008, 08:16 AM

I think some people are reading this the wrong way. I think there are many great under 18 years in here now and I believe they should be grandfathered in but new rules should apply to new applicants. It's not whether an under 18 year old can be a good business person it's whether they can legally be bound to their actions at that age. It's like asking Visa to not discriminate and give you a credit card because your a good business man or women. It's not discrimination, it's a matter of protection for both parties in a business transaction. Both parties should be of legal age so that they are able to be responsible for their own actions. It won't make either party more honest or a better business person just more accountable.

**robmac** · 03-10-2008, 08:24 AM

sounds like a resounding NO to me

**neopolus** · 03-10-2008, 08:51 AM

from the legal standpoint, for sure I'll have to vote no - however , it will be discriminatory not to let someone 17 or under not to participate in the forums, how about if the admin creates something like the "Underage Forum" and whoever is that age, can do business there, with a legal disclaimer, informing people that whoever visit or does any business there is a minor, it can be used as a training tool for the future domainers, and legally people are bind to follow the sub-forum rules ..

Just an Idea ....

Neo -

Rom · 03-10-2008, 09:26 AM

Bank verification system would be much easier, since anyone under 18 can get a bank account in US/Canada.

Edit: Never mind, not even Credit Card verification would work, since some people might use VCCs.

Hmm....

Mail Verification could work a bit, but it would take too long and would cost too much to send all the letters.

**James** · 03-10-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DotComGod

Should Teens UNDER 18 years old be allowed to do business here?

Yes or No.

-=DCG=-

If you only count the 18 years old or older votes what the poll results would be ??
Why would anyone under 18 vote "no" for this

jim

**Acro** · 03-10-2008, 10:38 AM

The need for a screening process has been there for quite some time. I think the straw that broke the camel's back is the latest mega-scam involving 9MM who claims to be 16 years old.

**VirtualT** · 03-10-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

If you only count the 18 years old or older votes what the poll results would be ??
Why would anyone under 18 vote "no" for this

jim

thats not the point..you don't get a democratic vote if you exclude the minorities that are most affected

**Acro** · 03-10-2008, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualT

thats not the point..you don't get a democratic vote if you exclude the minorities that are most affected

Because under the age of 18 one cannot vote

**DotComGod** · 03-10-2008, 11:04 AM

Ok, to be clear, anyone with an account now and under 18 would not be effected..

The new system, if we find one, would give current members 30 days to get verified.

All new members would be forced to verify.

-=DCG=-

Banned: ernestjev · 03-10-2008, 11:10 AM

my vote:no .

Because the brains are normal from 21

pcproffenno · 03-10-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DotComGod

Ok, to be clear, anyone with an account now and under 18 would not be effeted..

The new system, if we find one, would give current members 30 days to get verified.

All new members would be forced to verify.

-=DCG=-

A very good and respectful decision which I'm sure the legit and serious domainers on DNF will appreciate. The enforced verification is awesome in my opinion. Great job!

**ddaybofb** · 03-10-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DotComGod

Ok, to be clear, anyone with an account now and under 18 would not be effected..

The new system, if we find one, would give current members 30 days to get verified.

All new members would be forced to verify.

-=DCG=-

Thank You DCG

View Poll Results: Should Teens 17 and under be allowed to do business here?
YES	39	25.49%
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03-10-2008, 03:38 AM	#161 (permalink)
tristanperry Amms.com Name: Tristan Perry Last Online: Today 03:07 AM iTrader: (50) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,527 DNF$: 5,386 Location: Wales, UK Country:	Adam: Could you please confirm whether this would apply retro-actively? And if so, would you be re-funding the membership payments in full? I'd be happy to leave the forums for 1 month (until I turn 18), although not if I didn't get any sort of compensation for being temporarily banned (despite having 42+ positive transactions here ) Also this poll as for under 17s... now people are talking about 18 and under. Which is it? Thanks, Tristan Perry __________________ █ Devoted Hosting █ High Quality Shared And Reseller Hosting █ cPanel, 24/7 support, 99.9% uptime guaranteed Last edited by tristanperry; 03-10-2008 at 05:23 AM..

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GT Web DNF Addict Name: Daniel Last Online: 10-25-2009 04:41 PM iTrader: (24) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,910 DNF$: 9,193 Location: Vancouver, Canada Country:	I became a member here when I was 15 - I've made dozens and dozens and transactions on this forum and never had a problem. Of course there will always be young teenagers who try to scam people and do stupid crap, but then again there are plenty of older members who do the same thing. What's next - saying you aren't allowed to do business on DNForum if you live in certain countries? Nigeria? Indonesia? Russia? China? - where does the discrimination end? __________________

03-10-2008, 05:18 AM	#165 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 03:24 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,370 DNF$: 193 Location: South Florida Country:	I voted NO mainly from a CYOA (Cover Your Own A$$) standpoint. Under 18 in many places (including the US) do not have to be held accountable for their actions. I could get scammed and there isn't much that could be done about it. Yes, I could go after the parents but that is a long shot. It is sad to say that, though, since many people under 18 have contributed a lot to these forums, I think the current <18 crowd should be allowed to stay and do businesses as long as people understand the risks. __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains

03-10-2008, 06:21 AM	#168 (permalink)
Rom Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Roman Last Online: 08-21-2009 06:58 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 406 DNF$: 63 Location: Armenia Country:	What if you're 17 and are a full time developer/domainer?... __________________ XHTML.am - Free WordPress Themes » PSD to XHTML/CSS - Starting at $40 « » PSD to WordPress - Starting at $60 «

03-10-2008, 05:49 AM	#167 (permalink)
ShytKicker Bodis.com Name: Matt Last Online: Today 02:48 PM iTrader: (52) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,067 DNF$: 433 Location: New York	YES, because I started in the domain busienss at age 17. I might've even been registered here at 17. Also, anyone that is under 18 and wants to be a member, is a member here. Just like some people here mentioned, they were here since they were 15, 16..

03-10-2008, 08:16 AM	#169 (permalink)
acronym007 Last Online: Today 03:30 PM iTrader: (106) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,676 DNF$: 12,106 Location: USA Country:	I think some people are reading this the wrong way. I think there are many great under 18 years in here now and I believe they should be grandfathered in but new rules should apply to new applicants. It's not whether an under 18 year old can be a good business person it's whether they can legally be bound to their actions at that age. It's like asking Visa to not discriminate and give you a credit card because your a good business man or women. It's not discrimination, it's a matter of protection for both parties in a business transaction. Both parties should be of legal age so that they are able to be responsible for their own actions. It won't make either party more honest or a better business person just more accountable. __________________ http://www.ecorporation.com Last edited by acronym007; 03-10-2008 at 08:28 AM..

03-10-2008, 08:24 AM	#170 (permalink)
robmac Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-20-2009 03:25 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 514 DNF$: 272 Location: London Country:	sounds like a resounding NO to me __________________ PROXY

03-10-2008, 08:51 AM	#171 (permalink)
neopolus Platinum Lifetime Member Name: J. Garcia Last Online: 08-23-2009 11:03 PM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 171 DNF$: 315 Location: Hallandale Beach	from the legal standpoint, for sure I'll have to vote no - however , it will be discriminatory not to let someone 17 or under not to participate in the forums, how about if the admin creates something like the "Underage Forum" and whoever is that age, can do business there, with a legal disclaimer, informing people that whoever visit or does any business there is a minor, it can be used as a training tool for the future domainers, and legally people are bind to follow the sub-forum rules .. Just an Idea .... Neo -

03-10-2008, 09:26 AM	#172 (permalink)
Rom Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Roman Last Online: 08-21-2009 06:58 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 406 DNF$: 63 Location: Armenia Country:	Bank verification system would be much easier, since anyone under 18 can get a bank account in US/Canada. Edit: Never mind, not even Credit Card verification would work, since some people might use VCCs. Hmm.... Mail Verification could work a bit, but it would take too long and would cost too much to send all the letters. __________________ XHTML.am - Free WordPress Themes » PSD to XHTML/CSS - Starting at $40 « » PSD to WordPress - Starting at $60 « Last edited by Rom; 03-10-2008 at 09:36 AM..

03-10-2008, 10:38 AM	#174 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: Yesterday 02:57 AM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,904 DNF$: 4,079 Location: USA Country:	The need for a screening process has been there for quite some time. I think the straw that broke the camel's back is the latest mega-scam involving 9MM who claims to be 16 years old. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 77 days 7 hours 30 minutes

03-10-2008, 11:04 AM	#177 (permalink)
DotComGod Administrator Name: Adam Dicker Last Online: Today 02:24 PM iTrader: (39) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,772 DNF$: 4,589,652 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	Ok, to be clear, anyone with an account now and under 18 would not be effected.. The new system, if we find one, would give current members 30 days to get verified. All new members would be forced to verify. -=DCG=- __________________ witchcraft.com The ultimate site for the curious!

03-10-2008, 11:10 AM	#178 (permalink)
Banned: ernestjev Account Terminated Last Online: 11-03-2008 08:30 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 115 DNF$: 4,555 Location: Lithuania Country:	my vote:no . Because the brains are normal from 21 Last edited by ernestjev; 03-10-2008 at 11:41 AM..

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