Article submission and SEO - quick question

[jacal1]

I have found that I seem to do best as far as SEO when I only submit my articles to one top submission site as opposed to many different ones.

Am I imagining this or is it true that for SEO I'm better off just submitting to one good submission site where the articles could actually build solid PR without penalties and make my links to my sites more valuable?

If so, and I have articles that I submitted to multiple submission sites more than a year ago and they still have no PR at all, should I delete them so that they are in fewer places overall and the places where they do have PR will not get penalized?

Thanks!

[dcristo]

Mass syndication has always been a flawed strategy. The only sites that would accept duplicate/spun content are crap sites you don't want a link on.

[theoriginalemily]

Don't delete the articles on lower quality sites. Having a sudden decrease in incoming links is a bad sign to Google. In the future don't submit duplicates to multiple sites. It doesn't hurt your site, it just doesn't help it. Do a proper spin (one where no one can tell it was spun) or submit different articles to different sites.

[dcristo]

Do a proper spin (one where no one can tell it was spun)

in which case it would be a rewrite. i don't think i've ever encountered a spun article that didn't look like it was produced by some automated tool.

[theoriginalemily]

You {wouldn't know|can't tell the difference|wouldn't be able to tell that it was {spun|generated}}. {Some people|There are certain writers who} can {do things with a {higher skill set|better skills|more skills} than others|produce {high quality|great} {spun|generated} {articles|content}}. You {just need to|should} {find|hire} them instead of {clicking|choosing} the "one-click-spin" {button|option}.

[dcristo]

Yeah it requires a very skilled person to generate high quality spun content that can fool the search engines.

Not.

[theoriginalemily]

I'm not sure why you're trying to pick a fight with me. First you say that there is no such thing as a readable spin then you say that it does not take skill. You're wrong on both counts but none of that has to do with the OPs issue. I came to this thread to address the OPs query and that's what I've done.

I don't mean to step on your toes being a new SEO "guru" on the forum. I have no intention of selling any SEO related services here so I'm not competition to you. I'm here because I would like to leave SEO for domaining so you don't have to feel threatened by my presence.

[dcristo]

Not trying to pick a fight. Just think it's ridiculous that you think it takes a lot of skill to produce a readable spin. I can guarantee that whatever spun article you show me, it will be incredibly obvious a real person didn't write the article. But then again, may be your definition of quality is different to mine.

[theoriginalemily]

I gave you a few sentence in spintax a few posts up. Here they are unspun a few times:

You can't tell the difference. Some people can produce high quality spun content. You should hire them instead of clicking the "one-click-spin" button.

You wouldn't be able to tell that it was spun. There are certain writers who can do things with a higher skill set than others. You just need to hire them instead of choosing the "one-click-spin" button.

You wouldn't know. There are certain writers who can produce high quality spun content. You should hire them instead of choosing the "one-click-spin" button.

Are those "incredibly obvious" that they were spun?

[dcristo]

A few sentences doesn't prove much. Show me a complete article spun with multiple spins, then you may have proved a point. To get to the point that would be considered "decent" I am sure it would have taken you a heck of a lot of time to spin as well, which I'd much rather reserve for writing a good article from scratch.

[theoriginalemily]

A few sentences doesn't prove much. Show me a complete article spun with multiple spins, then you may have proved a point. To get to the point that would be considered "decent" I am sure it would have taken you a heck of a lot of time to spin as well, which I'd much rather reserve for writing a good article from scratch.

Exactly! I think we're on the same page on this one. It takes a heck of a lot of time and work to create a few sentences over and over and over again until you have a whole article spun at sentence, paragraph and word/phrase level. If I'm working with a tough keyword it's worth doing because that one article can be used thousands of times but for many keywords it is unnecessary. If you are just submitting to a few article directories (like the OP) it is unnecessary.

[Theo]

Spun copy looks fine when you are trying to prove a point - as the examples above show - but when it's attempted en masse in order to "fool" Google (no other search engine is worth "fooling") then rest assured that eventually Google will pick up those ever-so-slight variations that you've created.

[dcristo]

You can't get content written by crappy writers past the big G today, let alone spun copy.

[utuxia]

manual spinning by someone who cares is always going to be better than a fiverr gig or some automated button. I created a spintax tool myself to help with the process http://texthat.com if anyone's interested.

[seoexperttools]

If you think you are going to get away from Google with spun content these days then you are in for a big surprise.

[James-A]

Submitting informative content in authoritative websites will surely provide you with the best results. This will help in terms of improving your keyword rankings and thereby the incoming traffic to the website. You will come across many article directories online, however it is important to submit only in the best ones.

[PKumar]

How does Google detect poor quality articles?

The thing is it should have uniqueness and free from grammar and spelling mistakes..

Keyword Density (stuffing) these are the main factors..

[David Walker]

If I'm not an expert on the subject, I will study the article written and add my own spin to it by rewriting it in my own words, see if TBS has better synonyms and then proof read it manually changing some phrases into high CPC keywords. It's a more tedious process than just spinning an article, but rest assured it comes out unique with the same valuable content as the original. I will not attempt to spin the final product and repost it though.