Google PR display broken?

**netznutz** · 05-28-2005, 05:16 AM

My Google toolbar doesn't display PRs anymore. Looking at the (hidden) http response reveals:

You do not have permission to send search queries from this IP address. Please
login to the Google Admin Console and ensure that this IP is in your list of permitted IPs. Remember that it may take a few hours for a newly added IP address to become activated and able to perform queries.

I'm using a dynamic IP of Germany's largest provider, so I wonder if this is a general PR outage?
Anyone?

**clasione** · 05-28-2005, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by netznutz

My Google toolbar doesn't display PRs anymore. Looking at the (hidden) http response reveals:

You do not have permission to send search queries from this IP address. Please
login to the Google Admin Console and ensure that this IP is in your list of permitted IPs. Remember that it may take a few hours for a newly added IP address to become activated and able to perform queries.

I'm using a dynamic IP of Germany's largest provider, so I wonder if this is a general PR outage?
Anyone?

First for PageRank History

For the first time in pagerank history, google has decided to completely turn off pagerank on the toolbar....

I'm still predicting a visible update by the end of May/beginning of June....

Could be a new way of updating PR levels....

New levels are available via the directory here:
http://64.233.167.99/Top/

**Banned: domaintalk** · 05-28-2005, 07:27 AM

What is happening with Google Toolbar Pagerank? People are asking this everywhere.

Many pages I visit are showing gray for PR on the toolbar. I have also checked a few pagerank update tools and they are also reflecting this change, so this isnt just a toolbar failure.

No, this isnt a PR update as some believe. This is the elimination of PageRank as we know it.

Is the the end of Google Pagerank as we know it? Is Google replacing or eliminating our ability to read the value of a website (as they see it)

Google's "Trust Rank" algorithm has been around for awhile, but I dont believe fully implemented. Maybe we're seeing the change from Pagerank to TrustRank.

Aaron Wall recently write an article, TrustRank & the Company You Keep - basically the Googles "Trust Rank" algorithm places a different value on each incoming and outgoing link different then Page Rank. These values could be positive or negative.

So, are we seeing the end of PageRank as we know it? It seems so. It also seems we are all may to have to change out link development strategies somewhat

Maybe this will be helpful got it off vbmaster.

**firemutt** · 05-28-2005, 09:38 AM

that sucks. cause my page rank has improved so much on the last update.

**netznutz** · 05-28-2005, 12:49 PM

"my page rank has improved"

Forget it. The PR isn't yours. It never was. It's Googles.

**OgieOgalthorpe** · 05-28-2005, 12:57 PM

Either Google is doing some maintenance or else its gone...

**namestrands** · 05-28-2005, 03:36 PM

And I was just about to put a PR6 up for SALE

**stevey** · 05-28-2005, 05:30 PM

alot of scaremongering going around, if they were removing PR they would of removed it from the tool bar, as someone has already said you can still view your PR in the google directory. Google has never liked people querying there servers for such sites that disply PR, i believe that they are now blocking everything from there PR servers they just need to enable maybe even modify there toolbar, but as with everything else its just a guess. just need to wait for google to do a press release on it. At the end of the day though PR is meaningless, think about it, all that PR is how popular google thinks your site is, if your gonna buy a website dont waste your money on high PR sites, if google lowers ur site PR you have lost your money, if google bans your site you loose your money, you should spend your money on sites that have good traffic, and you should try to increase your sites traffic not waste your money buying links on high PR sites that get you little or no clicks to your site

**GT Web** · 05-28-2005, 06:49 PM

they finally got smart, showing PR publicly only hurt the Google system, it was only a matter of time before they took it away from public view...

PR = smart idea
visable PR = bad idea

**Acro** · 05-28-2005, 09:20 PM

Time to uninstall the Googlebar then. Those Google folks got rather arrogant from the spike in the price of their bubbled up stock. I hope reality lands them down hard.

Here's how:
http://www.google.com/support/toolba...9231&topic=915

**namestrands** · 05-28-2005, 09:26 PM

I uninstalled a reinstalled and then shook my finger at it aggressive like...

nothing.. Google are having an Identity Crisis Lately.. this is probably some f**ked up marketing ploy.. to get us all talking about it..

All this stealth marketing, really gets me upset. I shall go off in the corner and cry into my nice cup of earl grey

**Acro** · 05-28-2005, 09:27 PM

Ahh things load up faster without the Googlelagger :-D

**namestrands** · 05-28-2005, 09:39 PM

Just for Today: FOR SALE: GOOGLE PR10 Domain... 2aj.net $2500

**Acro** · 05-28-2005, 09:42 PM

Lol

**Chodhry** · 05-29-2005, 01:24 AM

They might make the Public Preview available for a small price to interested parties. I mean a lot of us would be interested to even pay them some bucks to check site's importance before buying it.

**Acro** · 05-29-2005, 01:27 AM

BIG marketing mistake. The disabling of the public PR tool is simply the end of the value of the PR in determining a domain's importance. I would not pay Google to see what a site's PR is like!

**clasione** · 05-29-2005, 01:54 AM

I doubt it is gone from the tool bar for good..... It is very important to Google to watch what we are doing and if they remove PR from the toolbar, thousands of people will uninstall it as it's the only reason they installed the toolbar to begin with....

**Chodhry** · 05-29-2005, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by RADiSTAR

BIG marketing mistake. The disabling of the public PR tool is simply the end of the value of the PR in determining a domain's importance. I would not pay Google to see what a site's PR is like!

Well, endusers dont know much about PR anyways. Only webmasters are the creatures looking after a high PR and stuff. As long as they use it to rank your site in their searches I say it has a lot of value in it and only disabling the public preview wont make it worthless. I wont mind paying them a little fee to get the tool for checking the PR of sites.

Originally Posted by clasione

I doubt it is gone from the tool bar for good..... It is very important to Google to watch what we are doing and if they remove PR from the toolbar, thousands of people will uninstall it as it's the only reason they installed the toolbar to begin with....

That makes sense. But what if the start charging like a $9/year (or lifetime) to have this option enabled on the toolbar or something like that. Would you go for it assuming the PR still pays a vital role in the SE rankings?

**clasione** · 05-29-2005, 02:08 AM

me personally? Yes, I would pay the $9 but I doubt they would do something like that..... The main thing that I think happened here is that there is a PR update going on right now and they have disabled the toolbar comlpetely to prevent people from using future pagerank tools to watch the update....

There are many tools across the net that query all the datacenter at once and when they find differences from datacenter to datacenter, then it alerts that an update is in process...

This is probably their new way of saying:
"You'll see the new PR levels when we are ready, case closed"