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What happened?
It was the second or third result, and as of a few days ago, it dropped down to the first result on second page. Now, it isn't even there at all, I looked 20 pages deep!
How can I fix this and why did it happen?
It's called competition. Each time someone site gets indexed with a better result such as better theme density and better content the top will get moved to the lower or next page.
You can fix it by adding fresh content to your site on a daily basis but stay relevant. And use keywords as a se spiders food source. Feed them and you'll rank high.
I don't buy it that competition knocked my site COMPLETELY out of Google rankings for that keyword.
I've been steady in top 3 results for this keyword for over 2 years. You are telling me that competition made it go from the top 3 results to...nowhere to be found?
I would understand if, lets say, I slowly dropped down a position or two, but not completely being removed from Google.
If that's the case then I'm sure it will be back or maybe its another one of their slaps. I've had competition kick me out from the top before but since you were at top 3 for 2 years then different story.
I'll go see what Matt has to say.
Last edited by RustyK; 01-04-2008 at 01:44 PM.
Google just recently (01/01/08) changed their search algorithm.
Site with static or historical content have dropped.
Sites with dynamic, relevant, current news and searches by people have increased.
I will attempt to find the link. All of this happened with little notice.
Folks saw PR ranking fall dramatically overnight.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
This happened before the first of the year, and my site is 100% dynamic content.Originally Posted by Doc Com
Ah there you go. Thanks Doc.
It is strange. I have a website that ranked 3rd for nearly 3 years for an exact term, and since 2 weeks it has been jumping from 3rd to 6th and back. The site is very relevant and it is being updated nearly daily, unlike most of the top 5 sites for that term. My eCPM is also 1/3 what it used to be. Too bad. Two of my static sites are however bringing 5 times more traffic via better ranking in Google, although they have not been updated more than 1-2 times a year in the past 2 years.
Sababa my friend
Here is a link:
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/20...nges-algorithm
This is a very worthy site as there are two videos clips on this.
A while back there was thread regarding DIGG. Perhaps even more than ever, if this new algorithm is to take place, then DIGGing each other's sites and cross promoting is crucial and essential.
What do I see in this?
I see a definite trend away from business as usual regarding internet usage. And perhaps that is what google is seeing and experimenting with.
If you do an Advanced Search on Google's homepage, you will see this:
Google Book Search - Search the full text of books
New! Google Code Search - Search public source code
Google Scholar - Search scholarly papers
Google News archive search - Search historical news
Apple Macintosh - Search for all things Mac
BSD Unix - Search web pages about the BSD operating system
Linux - Search all penguin-friendly pages
Microsoft - Search Microsoft-related pages
U.S. Government - Search all U.S. federal, state and local government sites
Universities - Search a specific school's website
Note the Google Scholar and News Archive. Much of this is not new stuff but has been quietly promoted over the past year or so.
So if the internet era has been known as the Age of Information, is this mobile internet the Age of Dynamic Information?
Perhaps so. Perhaps google sees a demographic shift (and perhaps it has been there) of people wanting real and updated and timely content rather than the archival stuff. After all, who better than Google would know what their customers are searching for?
If the bulk of folks had been going 2, 3, 4, 10 pages deep to conduct a search, then perhaps that is where the real relevant content was. Google would be able to track user time spent on searches, on sites, etc. Web analytic gurus could have taken note of perhaps users spending less time because they were not finding what they were looking for.
Those studies and results must have demonstrated that PR for the sake of PR was not the best thing. In other words, if you want to search for Primaries for the political season, if the first few things that came up were Wikipedia, Dictionary, etc., but peeps were not staying, then they were not really looking for this. They were most likely looking for Primary Results or Iowa Caucus Results. Could this be the search engine trying to read people's intent/mind?
Unless you have a page or a site that is constantly being updated with feeds or with meta search tags, then most likely it is going to fall into the historical data realm which is not what most people are searching for.
This caught my attention when I read a little blurb from someone expressing the same thing...page rank droppings and falling off the pages essentially.
Apparently sites have to be ever evolving and timely and current.
And the rest? Well, it's just old news.
See the link below (now above)? Google had been testing perhaps since mid December.
I also think this is greatly going to effect parking of domain names.
Good or bad for parking?
Presently, I am seeing good results.
SedoPro uses a Google feed.
Since the last week or so of December I have seen CTR nearly double. Oddly enough, the PPC has not really changed (that could be a sedo insider thing).
For the month of January, thus far the trend continues. Overall the CTR is higher than it has ever been. And it has been this way perhaps for 2-3 weeks.
Will it stay this way? Who knows. But it may be time to check keywords and be more "up to date" and "in tune" for the terms people are actually searching for.
I have always been suspicious of the worthiness and value of Page Rankings. I don't think they accurately portray what people are looking for. Just because you do a search and land somewhere first or a link takes you there does not necessarily mean you wanted to end up there in the first place.
Last edited by Gerry; 01-04-2008 at 02:04 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
See, I had a feeling it had nothing to do with that.
As of a few hours ago, my site is back in the search once again, in spot 3, just where it used to be!
Also, I don't know how, but my site is also in position #4 for a different keyword that gets 25x times more searches than my other keyword does! I can't wait to see what this does for my revenue.
what tool are u using that shows u this other keyword is getting 25x times more searches?....overture?....with january stats?....
you're going to need more links to your domain if you're dropping out like that. try building links slowly from quality sources, and sites with related subjects (not 100 links a day, just one a day or something) and you'll see that, over time, your rankings will rise.
good luck.
Build more backlinks to your website and you will climb back up.
That's true. One of my sites (static content for the last 6 months or so) dropped from #1 to #5 on Google search. It had a huge impact on affiliate sales. The PR stayed the same, however.
The climb back to #1 will commense this weekend
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