New MSN search engine

[David G]

Here is a (beta version) link to the new MSN search engine which will be trying to take business away from Google and Yahoo soon.

They may be successful as I am sure it will be built into the browser.

http://beta.search.msn.com/

[rawkinrich]

Ah the internet. Everythings copied, duplicated.

[Mr Webname]

Nice - it favours my sites

[mark]

Nice - it favours my sites

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not mine....sigh...but at least they have a url submission similiar to google--although not as easy as google with the addition of a verification code which must be entered, etc.

[David G]

Nice - it favours my sites

Yes, me too! For some reason my sites which I tested rank much higher in MSN than they do elsewhere. Must be something they like about my SEO work, wish I knew what it was!

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not mine....sigh...but at least they have a url submission similiar to google--although not as easy as google with the addition of a verification code which must be entered, etc.

That is odd as I was never asked for an auth code? Are you sure you used my link?

[JEsports]

Article I just read about Microsoft's search relevancy:

Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Friday 12th November 2004 12:01 GMT

Google's executives might be sleeping a little easier this weekend after Microsoft unveiled its much-hyped new search engine. It's fast, slick, and comes with a raft of interesting new features: confounding some expectations as surely as it confirms others. In short, Microsoft has produced a search engine that's better in almost every way than Google, except for one: its search results are terrible. But let's start with the good stuff.

Incredibly, MSN Beta Search trumps Google for speed: it's an order of magnitude faster. Anyone who doubted that Microsoft could deliver a large scale distributed cluster, and that's probably most of you, will be surprised at the nippy performance (although the true test comes when the system has to scale under heavy loads, of course).

Microsoft has also made building complicated queries much more attractive than its rivals. Click on the "Search Builder" option and you get five additional fields which you can add, one at a time, the fifth being three gauges for altering the search term's topicality, popularity, and semantic accuracy. This puts all its rivals to shame, and makes Google's Advanced Search page look about as appealing as an Assembly Language manual. Microsoft's new engine also has a rough caching service modeled on Google's cache, but without the keywords highlighted in colors: one of Google's most subtle and indelibly useful UI features.

Microsoft has also been busy in other departments. It attempts to produce a natural language answer to something it thinks is a particular kind of question. What's the capital of England? Gives the answer: London, for example. It didn't fare so well with the question "How many mickle in a muckle?", but it's a start.

But MSN Beta Search falls down badly where it really matters: in delivering results with any relevancy. Like Google, it struggles to distinguish between a source query and an effect query. Searching for "John Leyden"+"blaster worm" and "John Lettice"+"Windows" returned a lot of prattle, but hardly any original articles. When a search is so specific, you're reasonably expected to receive source articles, you might think, rather than what people are saying about them. And this illustrates a fundamental blindspot that both search engine designers, and web-happy techno utopians both exhibit: they mistake the web for the world.

[mark]

That is odd as I was never asked for an auth code? Are you sure you used my link?[/QUOTE]
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yes; when i couldn't find my domain i used to check within the msn search it gave me an option to send the url to us, etc. on that page it has a verification code above which had to be confirmed at the time you enter the url. (to avoid automated entries)

[schmidte]

Using the new MSN Search Engine:
Run a search for "more evil than satan" (in quotations) and look at the first result

then try: evil corporation (no quotations)

ED

[David G]

Did not know you guys were referring to searching for your url, and then submitting your website to them if not already listed.

I was talking about doing searches for various search terms and seeing how well the sites ranked. That is the main usage of the search service. No auth code is needed for searching.

BTW, the sites I checked of my own seem to be already listed in MSN even though I never submitted them. Found that out as I needed to make up a name before I got asked for auth code.

[stevey]

yeah, it likes my sites better too for a number of search terms

[RMF]

My sites seem to do pretty well compared to other search engines. So I like it so far

[Graham Easton]

I love the new search engine. I've always done well on MSN but I'm now 4th out of 2.5million for "texas holdem poker" and first for "texas holdem poker rules".

Long live MSN !