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    Exclamation Be Aware! LLLL.com's SCAMMER around.

    LLLL.com Sellers & Holders .. Please be aware!


    There is a scammer who will/might contact your domains whois email and he will offer to buy some of your LLLL.com domains. After receiving the domains he will open a Paypal dispute or he is already using stolen Paypal account.

    He scammed me on 5 domains and another NP member on 9 domains .. also, two other members reported that he contacted them too. All that happened today only.


    Emails he used :

    kevnospam@aol.com
    kevdomain@yahoo.com
    iggymorris@gmail.com
    r1gsxr@yahoo.com



    Please Be Careful!!!
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    Just sold him a CCC.com with immediate payment. I will see if he opens a dispute. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Thanks for the update... i hope we find his true idendity

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    Posted on another forum about this issue .. this might help later :

    Did some digging, heres what I found so far:

    xxxx

    A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com

    PayMass.com is owned by:

    Whois Record

    Registrant:
    Dorobantu Marian
    bd tomis nr 68
    Constanta, Constanta 8700
    Romania

    Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov..

    xxxxx
    PS: Mods, if linking to other forums is allowed .. Please feel free to remove the links.
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    Contacted me as well about a bulk deal. i had a funny feeling and told him that, for both our safety, to please make his offer over the forum via pm or post, so there would be some level of 'identity' and credibility. havent heard back! thanks for the heads up and hope you get your names back! SP

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    He also opened a dispute on paypal for my domains 03L.COM and 03N.COM
    I would request fellow members to help me regarding this.

    I have already shifted the domains to him, please advise what I can do about this, he sent me 700USD Payment and then opened a dispute with paypal.

    Akhil

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    Thanks for the heads up. Anyone we can knows any tricks to research these ppl please due so. Find all the info you can and post them on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaadoo View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. Anyone we can knows any tricks to research these ppl please due so. Find all the info you can and post them on the web.
    Just Google their e-mail / paypal e-mail when they send payment, ask them questions like what domains they own, Google the domain, whois the domain to match e-mail, etc. Most is common sense. If dealing in a larger size deal with someone who randomly contacts you and offers PayPal, get them to use escrow. Bet you it wouldn't be hard to find a guy willing to pay $900 for "0xq.com" with their stolen account, right?

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    Provided that the Paypal account he's using is his then the Paypal Dispute Resolution does not cover intangible items. Therefore Paypal should not refund the money.

    When you respond to the dispute with tracking informtion input that the item was an "intangible item" in the field requested and put the full informtion in the 'other' box.
    Then I suggest everyone who has been scammed club together and email Paypal on behalf of all your accounts and alert them to this individual and request that they take immediate action against this individual.

    I hope this helps.

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    He attempted the same thing on me with one of my LLLL's last night.

    Fortunately - it ended with "sedo escrow, or escrow.com".

    This guy's been busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greatdomainz View Post
    He attempted the same thing on me with one of my LLLL's last night.

    Fortunately - it ended with "sedo escrow, or escrow.com".

    This guy's been busy.
    Smartest decision possible. I wonder how many e-mail's I would have got if I updated the contact info on my thousands of LLLL's that I had at EuroDNS a few weeks ago

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    When making a payment or accepting a payment.. Always make sure the payment is marked as a service, or intangable good. Telling paypal this may not do much good if the payment was sent as a tangable purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaw View Post
    When making a payment or accepting a payment.. Always make sure the payment is marked as a service, or intangable good. Telling paypal this may not do much good if the payment was sent as a tangable purchase.
    That does not always help because if it is a stolen cc or account then you still get chargebacked.

    Solution? Avoid PayPal completely!

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    Maybe the solution if you don't want to use an esrow service is at least have the buyer sign and fax back a domain sale form. This way you can present the document to Paypal and win the dispute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybertonic View Post
    Maybe the solution if you don't want to use an esrow service is at least have the buyer sign and fax back a domain sale form. This way you can present the document to Paypal and win the dispute.
    That is an option but if the amount is smaller, not everyone would take their time to do so, even if they are legit. I really think paypal should change the way they work. Is it that hard to tweak their system? When someone who just joined Paypal a week ago charges back $700 on a guy who has been a member for 5 years and has had over $100, 000 in outgoing and incoming money, why side with the newbie? You usually can't get away with doing chargebacks to places like GoDaddy so why should it be different with people? Right...?

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    Having lost 700USD on two names, I have asked my registrars GoDaddy and Name.Com to act on this... Will this help? What else should I be doing? Thanks for your support in advance...
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    Some of his domains :

    Canadawallet.com
    Dieforcash.com
    Fep.name
    Masspayment.net
    Orderbulk.net
    Paybycent.com
    Paybymoney.com
    Paygp.com
    Paymass.com
    Pokergeneraltalk.com
    Sexismylife.net
    Pokerwish.net
    Uswallet.com

    His Digg account : http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr

    His Yahoo Messenger photo
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    r1gsxr is something to do with bikes, likely related to that bike.

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    Okie , and now i found his own forum

    After more and more evidences .. This guy is definitely (should be a girl in this case) :

    Name: Marian, Dorobantu
    Address: bd tomis nr 68
    City/State: Constanta, Constanta
    Zip code: 8700
    Country: Romania
    Tel: 721328329
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