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    Herman Cain US President Candidate

    Today I went to Herman Cain's Website https://www.hermancain.com/ to make a Donation, I get a blue bar that continues to reload for ever.

    After look at this website (link below) I decided to help keep Mr. Cain in the GOP race to the top.

    Here is some of the history of Herman Cain: http://www.answers.com/topic/herman-cain

    Cain is the recipient of eight honorary degrees from Creighton, Johnson & Wales, Morehouse College, Nebraska, New York City Technical College, Purdue University, Suffolk University, and Tougaloo College.

    Cain is an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church North in Atlanta, which he joined at the age of 10. The church is part of the National Baptist Convention, USA

    Cain was born in Memphis, Tennessee, on December 13, 1945, the son of Lenora (née Davis) and Luther Cain, Jr. His mother was a cleaner and his father was a chauffeur. He was raised in Georgia. He graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in mathematics and received a Master of Science degree in computer science from Purdue University in 1971, while he was also working full-time in ballistics for the U.S. Department of the Navy. Cain has authored four books: Leadership is Common Sense (1997), Speak as a Leader (1999), CEO of SELF (October 2001), and They Think You're Stupid (May 2005). He also authored an article titled "The Intangibles of Implementation" in the technical journal Interfaces (Vol. 9, No. 5, 1979, pp. 144-147), published by the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences (INFORMS).
    Business career

    After completing his master's degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of Vice President by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King – a Pillsbury subsidiary at the time – managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him President and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another of their then-subsidiaries. Within 14 months, Cain had taken Godfather's Pizza from 911 stores down to 420 stores and reduced costs significantly. As a result of his efforts Godfather's Pizza finally became profitable. In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he was asked to resign by the board. Later that year he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association – a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry – where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's.[10]
    Cain became a member of the board of directors to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.[11] Cain was a 1996 recipient of the Horatio Alger Award.[12]
    Cain was on the board of directors of Aquila, Inc. from 1992 to 2008, and also served as a board member for Nabisco, Whirlpool, Reader's Digest, and AGCO, Inc.[13][14]

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    The web site loads in less than 5 seconds for me. Not that there is anything of importance really. Typical chest thumping for the preliminaries. The Republican party is in obvious disarray. Has Sarah Palin reached menopause yet?
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    Newt's website worked OK, http://www.newt.org/get-involved-now

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500,000 View Post
    Today I went to Herman Cain's Website https://www.hermancain.com/ to make a Donation, I get a blue bar that continues to reload for ever.
    I commend you for supporting him, he's a good man. And he's the only natural and relaxed candidate at these debates... I also use Firefox and I don't have any problem loading the page, You should really start using it, it's SO much better than IE.


    Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
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    America needs independent candidates to break that partisan duopoly. Nothing will ever change as long as US democracy is locked by the party system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katherine View Post
    Nothing will ever change as long as US democracy is locked by the party system.
    100% true, 100% of the problem, 100% of the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acro View Post
    The Republican party is in obvious disarray.
    I have never seen anything like this in all my days. There is a flavor of the week. The GOP is in total disarray. Every day there is talk of someone else getting into the ruckus...Palin is teasing, Rudi is kidding, Christie is thinking. Meanwhile, those in the mix at present...wow, who would have ever thought there would be such an airbrushed picture perfect photo on stage.

    Honestly, the only thing I have heard that I like is Cain's 9-9-9 plan. If you don't know what it is, look it up. It makes sense, its fair, and its doable. But is he electable? Doubtful.

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    The 9-9-9 plan appears to fit right in with the republican agenda of supporting the rich at the expense of the poor and the middle class. When you reduce a rich family's high income by 9% it probably doesn't effect them at all but that same 9% could be devastating to a poor or even a middle class family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    The 9-9-9 plan appears to fit right in with the republican agenda of supporting the rich at the expense of the poor and the middle class. When you reduce a rich family's high income by 9% it probably doesn't effect them at all but that same 9% could be devastating to a poor or even a middle class family.
    I would rather pay 9% State and Federal Tax rather than the 30% or so (whatever the latest tax brackets depict).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    100% true, 100% of the problem, 100% of the solution.

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    Honestly, the only thing I have heard that I like is Cain's 9-9-9 plan. If you don't know what it is, look it up. It makes sense, its fair, and its doable. But is he electable? Doubtful.
    I don't like the idea of allowing them the flexibility of having both income and sales tax. Give the politicians an inch and they take a mile. If we could do away with the income tax first, I'd be all for it. However, he does have the best plan so far otherwise.

    On another note (racist tea party news): http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...a-ZIE5ltz3EuSw

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    The 9-9-9 plan appears to fit right in with the republican agenda of supporting the rich at the expense of the poor and the middle class. When you reduce a rich family's high income by 9% it probably doesn't effect them at all but that same 9% could be devastating to a poor or even a middle class family.
    What's wrong with everyone paying their fair share? Lose all loopholes, lose all deductions, level the playing field for everyone. The whole concept of America is the freedom to succeed. Or to fail. If you want socialism, europe is always an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by south View Post
    I don't like the idea of allowing them the flexibility of having both income and sales tax. Give the politicians an inch and they take a mile. If we could do away with the income tax first, I'd be all for it. However, he does have the best plan so far otherwise.
    The trick is to close loopholes for corporations doing business in and out of USA. There are too many US companies who do not pay tax (GE for example). Additionally, too many US based companies have moved to foreign countries to get out of paying US tax (Haliburton ring a bell?). There are mega corporations doing business in the USA and the USA is their primary hubs of business but take advantage of these loop holes to pay very little or none at all taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    that same 9% could be devastating to a poor or even a middle class family.
    That 9% is a blessing to those in the 23%-35% tax bracket. That is where your middle class lives.

    The poor are not paying taxes. Rather, that pool of poor is growing.

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    A large portion of the middle class pays little to no Federal income tax. Many people pay more in FICA (Social Security / Medicare) than they do in income tax.

    For many, Cain's 9 9 9 plan would result in paying more tax, plus on top of that would be the 9% national sales tax.

    As for tax rates, most people don't seem to understand how they're calculated. For example, ignoring deductions for simplicity, just because someone's income falls into a 25% tax bracket, does not mean they're paying 25% on all their income, but rather only on that portion that's falls into the 25% tax bracket. This is very important to understand, because it relates to my first point - a large portion of the middle class pay relatively little in Federal income tax.

    Bottom line is Cain's 9 9 9 plan, which isn't going to go anywhere - it's empty campaign rhetoric (won't go into all the reasons here other than it's a non-starter; google for details), would be worse for many than the current Federal tax system.

    As for why Cain seemingly vaulted out of nowhere, my take is the GOP needs a hedge in case the other GOP nominees, which are all looking very weak politically, don't pan out...

    Cain, for all his issues, has an advantage that none of the others have against Obama - he's "black" - and yes, that matters in Presidential elections ... 90% of self-identified "blacks" voted for Obama; many acknowledged in large part due to him being "black"...

    Presidential elections, as likewise with most others, are decided not by the core base, but rather often decided by those voters on the fringes - when I say fringe (likely not the best word, but can't think of a better one at the moment), I don't mean those voters are wackos or anything, but rather their beliefs are the edge / outside of that of a core DEM / GOP party voter ... ie. those who aren't registered in either party; those who vote "Independent".

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    This post was a mistake, category
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