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updatedsports · 06-13-2003, 06:53 PM

Why the doesn't anybody buy .us domain names? I can't even sell then on ebay. Even domain names that have over 40,000 searches on overture won't sell for $15. . It was easier to sell .ws domain names a year ago than it is to sell .us domain names now. Is anyone else having trouble selling them?

**izopod** · 06-13-2003, 07:28 PM

high quality.ws names are definitely something to look at (long term) for developers. Not sure what they are doing on the open market. Someone said that "Reservations.ws" sold for $400 on Afternic, which isn't all that bad. I've already had a few offers on my "Database.ws" and "Retirement.ws" names, which I am not selling so there is interest there.

As far as US sales, it would seem that "private" sales are doing better right now than auctions. If you have some decent .US names, you may want to try and contact "end users" directly. Mind you, I think "Decent" is all that's moving right now.

**StockDoctor** · 06-13-2003, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by updatedsports
Why the doesn't anybody buy .us domain names? I can't even sell then on ebay. Even domain names that have over 40,000 searches on overture won't sell for $15. . It was easier to sell .ws domain names a year ago than it is to sell .us domain names now. Is anyone else having trouble selling them?

I'd like to see the .us names you had for sale on ebay that wouldn't sell for $15. I've paid over $2k for some "decent" us names as Izopod might qualify them. I've also sold some for over $2k. I'd like to have some of what you're smoking if you think you can OFFICIALLY declare that the .us names secondary market is underforming that crappy ws extention. I could use the power trip. Doc

**hhunterjr** · 06-13-2003, 08:25 PM

I agree with the Doc.

.Us names are already selling - it's just a matter of how much they are worth. The value of .us domains is only going to go up as the domain gains more recognition.

I do see that you're selling FWH.us on dnforum.com. As far as three letter domains go - of any extension - it really has no value in my opinion unless it's the actual abreviation for a company.
FWH could stand for a lot of things, but you'll have to wait for the buyer who needs that exact abbreviation.

Also you may have better luck selling that name on Afternic.com or on USForum.us. There are some .us enthusiasts on this site, but many are still stuck in the "Dot com or die mode."

As far as .ws - I've only seen a few sales of those. It may get better over time, but .us definitely has .ws beat hands down.

Banned: bidawinner · 06-13-2003, 08:32 PM

Not even a competition..I have sold over 15 .US already and have purchased on the aftermarket 6 others.

To compare Samoa , there isnt even a "western somoa" anymore they dropped the westyern in 1997 http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/ws.html

To compare that to .US is very shortsighted...

I think you are selling yourself way short if you exit this early from .US, you can PM your .US names also

updatedsports · 06-13-2003, 09:23 PM

Maybe I'm just having bad luck. Here are my .us domain names that I have not been able to sell.

fwh.us
abandonware.us
newsarchive.us
freechatroom.us
freeart.us
oldgames.us
updated.us
downloadgames.us
ppcsearch.us

I think these are good keywords. I thought downloadgames.us and abandonware.us were really good.

Banned: bidawinner · 06-13-2003, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by updatedsports
Maybe I'm just having bad luck. Here are my .us domain names that I have not been able to sell.

fwh.us
abandonware.us
newsarchive.us
freechatroom.us
freeart.us
oldgames.us
updated.us
downloadgames.us
ppcsearch.us

I think these are good keywords. I thought downloadgames.us and abandonware.us were really good.

Most of them are just run of the mill names with not may searches updated, the 3 Letter I'll take though..
I placed sold on your sales thread.

Banned: bidawinner · 06-13-2003, 10:03 PM

Actually that NewsArchive.US isnt to bad..

Id hold that one and OldGames.US , sell toys by the "generation"

**DNS Kidd** · 06-13-2003, 10:12 PM

I have had some luck selling .us names, last sale was $400, with TM on the side of the buyer. There isn't a lot of brand recognition among the public for the .us cc, so it's a hard sell to US retail buyers. I haven't found a good way to locate international retail buyers yet.

FYI, Go Daddy is presently ofering $5 .us domain renewals, and $7.65 .us transfers.

I would not want to be paying bills with .us sales presently, the benefits appear to be more long term than short.

**oxen** · 06-13-2003, 10:20 PM

DNS Kidd - where did you find godaddy offer $5 for domain renewals?

Thanks,

**DNS Kidd** · 06-13-2003, 10:22 PM

I deal directly with a rep, and they mail me the info. PM me if you would like to contact them.

**DomeBase** · 06-14-2003, 09:43 AM

Is your official conclusion based on a sample of one?

The following data, based on a sample of 38 U.S. residents from a forum (which I ask not be mentioned here) is as follows -- "Please vote for those extensions that you think are worthwhile for registering and/or developing domains -- considering the quality of domains available and the prices to obtain those domains (by registering or by purchasing from others depending on availability). You may vote for multiple extensions. "

.COM 30 25.86%
.NET 20 17.24%
.ORG 11 9.48%
.INFO 16 13.79%
.BIZ 10 8.62%
.US 26 22.41%
.CN 3 2.59%
.TV 0 0%
.CC 0 0%
.WS 0 0%

Based on this data, I would say that .US is a much better investment than .WS... at least for United States domainers... at least in the context of the question asked. This matches my subjective assessment of sales observed during the past couple months.

**Duke** · 06-14-2003, 03:40 PM

Darn it Domebase, I wish you would stop confusing everyone with the facts!

**dtobias** · 06-14-2003, 10:04 PM

I guess for Western Samoan people, .ws is better?

**mole** · 06-15-2003, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dtobias
I guess for Western Samoan people, .ws is better?

Someone reminded recently that there is no more Western Samoa, but only Samoa. So maybe it is .s you are referring to.

Banned: bidawinner · 06-15-2003, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mole

Someone reminded recently that there is no more Western Samoa, but only Samoa. So maybe it is .s you are referring to.

Ummm.. Mole, have you read this thread ?

**izopod** · 06-15-2003, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DomeBase
Is your official conclusion based on a sample of one?

It's amazing what one person can do to change the minds of so many. (see photo below).

It's an amazing photo. One of the best ever captured on film IMHO.

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/museum/flash/tsquare.jpg

**buddy** · 06-16-2003, 06:23 AM

Drug.us was just sold at Afternic for $2,000. That surely beats any recent .ws sale (if any)

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**StockDoctor** · 06-16-2003, 11:43 AM

I have sold several .us names for over $2k. The movement is happening folks. Money is being invested in PR plans to elevate the recognition and acceptance of the .us namespace. One grass roots effort I've seen lately has been the "Declaration of Independence" from the .com king. That is one effort I'd be happy to support with research, time and money.

Watch out for the colonists, they're shooting from the trees and they intend to protect their space and grow.

**Source** · 06-16-2003, 12:52 PM

I'm long on both .us and .ws. Over the past 6 months I've sold exactly 104 .us and 3 .ws domains.

However, as good first-hand .us domains become more rare, the popularity of .ws will soar.

Simple economic theory supply vs demand.

06-13-2003, 06:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
updatedsports Registered User - Must Upgrade To Post Last Online: 08-12-2008 12:33 AM iTrader: (4) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 812 DNF$: 1,485	Its official, .us domain names are harder to sell than .ws domain names Why the doesn't anybody buy .us domain names? I can't even sell then on ebay. Even domain names that have over 40,000 searches on overture won't sell for $15. . It was easier to sell .ws domain names a year ago than it is to sell .us domain names now. Is anyone else having trouble selling them?

06-13-2003, 08:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
hhunterjr Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-26-2006 02:41 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 248 DNF$: 1,036 Location: North Carolina	I agree with the Doc. .Us names are already selling - it's just a matter of how much they are worth. The value of .us domains is only going to go up as the domain gains more recognition. I do see that you're selling FWH.us on dnforum.com. As far as three letter domains go - of any extension - it really has no value in my opinion unless it's the actual abreviation for a company. FWH could stand for a lot of things, but you'll have to wait for the buyer who needs that exact abbreviation. Also you may have better luck selling that name on Afternic.com or on USForum.us. There are some .us enthusiasts on this site, but many are still stuck in the "Dot com or die mode." As far as .ws - I've only seen a few sales of those. It may get better over time, but .us definitely has .ws beat hands down. Last edited by hhunterjr; 06-13-2003 at 08:29 PM..

06-14-2003, 03:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Duke DNF Addict Last Online: 11-23-2009 11:26 PM iTrader: (20) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,753 DNF$: 6,442 Location: Florida	Darn it Domebase, I wish you would stop confusing everyone with the facts! __________________ DNJournal.com MythBuster: Former Farmer Gregg McNair Proves Opportunties Still Abound in the Domain Business NameNewbie.com

06-16-2003, 11:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
StockDoctor Mr. Pink Last Online: 05-10-2008 03:45 AM iTrader: (62) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,979 DNF$: 5,300 Location: Dartmouth Country:	I have sold several .us names for over $2k. The movement is happening folks. Money is being invested in PR plans to elevate the recognition and acceptance of the .us namespace. One grass roots effort I've seen lately has been the "Declaration of Independence" from the .com king. That is one effort I'd be happy to support with research, time and money. Watch out for the colonists, they're shooting from the trees and they intend to protect their space and grow. __________________ Arrest Bush & Cheney Petition by Brattleboro Vermont USA www.ArrestBushPetition.com

06-16-2003, 12:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Source DNF Addict Last Online: Yesterday 09:22 AM iTrader: (51) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,411 DNF$: 2,803 Location: Planet Earth	I'm long on both .us and .ws. Over the past 6 months I've sold exactly 104 .us and 3 .ws domains. However, as good first-hand .us domains become more rare, the popularity of .ws will soar. Simple economic theory supply vs demand. __________________ Cheers! Source

06-13-2003, 07:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
izopod Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-08-2009 08:15 PM iTrader: (8) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,237 DNF$: 1,104 Location: izopod Country:	high quality.ws names are definitely something to look at (long term) for developers. Not sure what they are doing on the open market. Someone said that "Reservations.ws" sold for $400 on Afternic, which isn't all that bad. I've already had a few offers on my "Database.ws" and "Retirement.ws" names, which I am not selling so there is interest there. As far as US sales, it would seem that "private" sales are doing better right now than auctions. If you have some decent .US names, you may want to try and contact "end users" directly. Mind you, I think "Decent" is all that's moving right now.

06-13-2003, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,186 Location: MN Country:	Not even a competition..I have sold over 15 .US already and have purchased on the aftermarket 6 others. To compare Samoa , there isnt even a "western somoa" anymore they dropped the westyern in 1997 http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/ws.html To compare that to .US is very shortsighted... I think you are selling yourself way short if you exit this early from .US, you can PM your .US names also

06-13-2003, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
updatedsports Registered User - Must Upgrade To Post Last Online: 08-12-2008 12:33 AM iTrader: (4) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 812 DNF$: 1,485	Maybe I'm just having bad luck. Here are my .us domain names that I have not been able to sell. fwh.us abandonware.us newsarchive.us freechatroom.us freeart.us oldgames.us updated.us downloadgames.us ppcsearch.us I think these are good keywords. I thought downloadgames.us and abandonware.us were really good.

06-13-2003, 10:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,186 Location: MN Country:	Actually that NewsArchive.US isnt to bad.. Id hold that one and OldGames.US , sell toys by the "generation"

06-13-2003, 10:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
DNS Kidd Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 03-14-2007 06:58 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 360 DNF$: 1,174 Location: New York	I have had some luck selling .us names, last sale was $400, with TM on the side of the buyer. There isn't a lot of brand recognition among the public for the .us cc, so it's a hard sell to US retail buyers. I haven't found a good way to locate international retail buyers yet. FYI, Go Daddy is presently ofering $5 .us domain renewals, and $7.65 .us transfers. I would not want to be paying bills with .us sales presently, the benefits appear to be more long term than short.

06-13-2003, 10:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
oxen Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-28-2009 02:52 PM iTrader: (6) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 162 DNF$: 100	DNS Kidd - where did you find godaddy offer $5 for domain renewals? Thanks,

06-13-2003, 10:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
DNS Kidd Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 03-14-2007 06:58 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 360 DNF$: 1,174 Location: New York	I deal directly with a rep, and they mail me the info. PM me if you would like to contact them.

06-14-2003, 09:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
DomeBase Old Timer Last Online: 03-11-2009 12:48 AM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,250 DNF$: 2,057 Location: Minnesota	Is your official conclusion based on a sample of one? The following data, based on a sample of 38 U.S. residents from a forum (which I ask not be mentioned here) is as follows -- "Please vote for those extensions that you think are worthwhile for registering and/or developing domains -- considering the quality of domains available and the prices to obtain those domains (by registering or by purchasing from others depending on availability). You may vote for multiple extensions. " .COM 30 25.86% .NET 20 17.24% .ORG 11 9.48% .INFO 16 13.79% .BIZ 10 8.62% .US 26 22.41% .CN 3 2.59% .TV 0 0% .CC 0 0% .WS 0 0% Based on this data, I would say that .US is a much better investment than .WS... at least for United States domainers... at least in the context of the question asked. This matches my subjective assessment of sales observed during the past couple months.

06-14-2003, 10:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
dtobias Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-13-2009 03:36 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 590 DNF$: 105 Location: Boca Raton, FL	I guess for Western Samoan people, .ws is better?

06-16-2003, 06:23 AM	#18 (permalink)
buddy DNF Regular Last Online: 09-15-2009 07:27 AM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 922 DNF$: 3,210	Drug.us was just sold at Afternic for $2,000. That surely beats any recent .ws sale (if any) .

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