Petition to Get Rid of Low-Ballers

**biggedon** · 01-14-2011, 10:43 AM

and if we did, there wouldn't be many members left.

getting so tired of these low-ball posts in threads

for me, i'd rather let my domains expire before i sell them at these offerings

so if you want any names i have....you can fight for them at namejet and snap

**Tia Wood** · 01-14-2011, 10:52 AM

I think you are trying to snuff my Freedom of Speech because of the reasons you want to get rid of low ballers. It would be fine if you didn't like low ballers but you are part of the Domain Party trying to eliminate the other side.

**draggar** · 01-14-2011, 10:58 AM

The issue is that so many posts are asking for offers but don't state a range or minimum.

OPs have nothing to blame except themselves when they receive offers in the $xx range when they want six or seven figures for the domain but don't say it.

**biggedon** · 01-14-2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by draggar

OPs have nothing to blame except themselves when they receive offers in the $xx range when they want six or seven figures for the domain but don't say it.

if i was the OP, why should i blame myself because you are a lowballer?

i don't need you to post $$ to get me started

cause $$ is the starting bid at namejet and snap

**INFORG** · 01-14-2011, 11:11 AM

Yeah, don't these guys know they can go to Estibot and see how much they should offer you? I mean it isn't like this is a subjective business or anything. [/sarcasm]

**draggar** · 01-14-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by biggedon

if i was the OP, why should i blame myself because you are a lowballer?

Just because a domain is worth a lot to one person doesn't mean it'll be worth a lot to everyone.

What's so hard about saying "considering offers from the mid $1xxx range" or "$xx,xxx range" etc..?

Funny how when someone expects to get $xx for a domain but someone offers them $x,xxx for it you don't hear any complaining yet everyone gets all up in arms when the opposite happens.

**silentg** · 01-14-2011, 11:26 AM

Everybody wants a good deal so they start off with $xx offers. Solution: premade template for listing domains.

If you don't post range then close the thread.

**biggedon** · 01-14-2011, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by silentg

Everybody wants a good deal so they start off with $xx offers.

everyone wants a good deal, that is true.... but not everyone starts with $xx offers

there are members here who will submit offers within range of current or potential value

and then there are the lowballers who think every seller doesn't know value.

**tetrapak** · 01-14-2011, 12:38 PM

If you don't want lowballs then indicate minimum bid, otherwise take the free bumps.

**Gerry** · 01-14-2011, 12:55 PM

I'll see your two cents and raise you a penny...

**Banned: dn-101** · 01-14-2011, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by tetrapak

If you don't want lowballs then indicate minimum bid, otherwise take the free bumps.

Agreed

**hugegrowth** · 01-14-2011, 03:58 PM

I agree, put a minimum bid to avoid getting offers that you think are too low.

**biggedon** · 01-14-2011, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by tetrapak

If you don't want lowballs then indicate minimum bid, otherwise take the free bumps.

minimums don't stop them

you can say $1k minimum offer and lowballers will still post or send lower offers

it's what they do

**Gerry** · 01-14-2011, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by hugegrowth

I agree, put a minimum bid to avoid getting offers that you think are too low.

I agree with biggie...posting a minimum is no barrier to having the PM's fly.

**Raider** · 01-14-2011, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by biggedon

for me, i'd rather let my domains expire before i sell them at these offerings

so if you want any names i have....you can fight for them at namejet and snap

My feelings exactly.... But the problem I think has a lot to with the quality of the domain... If it's earning high PPC or if it's a good generic, For desirable names like these your going to receive respectful offers as well as low-ball offers.

When I was selling domains here back in the day, I experimented, I offered for sale some good brandable domains, I would list the minimum price and what I got was a inbox of low-ball offers for 1/4 to 1/2 of the minimum price I was asking.. It was frustrating because I reduced the prices already to reseller levels and here they are asking for more.. So I stopped selling those type of domains altogether, And I'm glad I did, because many of those SAME domains I listed on this forum, I was able to sell to end users for 4 to 10 times the amount I was asking here.

I also experimented with some quality generics, many of which were earning decent PPC, From those I was receiving very respectful offers, and in every instance it resulted in a sale... But I only have so many quality generics to offer at reseller pricing.. And for what I have left, I demand end-user prices...

I agree with you we have a lot of Low-Ballers here and it can be insulting when you receive them and frustrating negotiating with them...But try to shrug them off, do what I do and reply to them with a firm price.

The price for the domain is $5000, Payable through Escrow.com.

Thank you for your interest.

If they want the domain bad enough, they'll bump up their offers... Not long ago I had a guy offer me $50 for a domain, my price was $12,000 and I ended up negotiating the price for $8,000, which was the minimum price I was willing to accept for it.

**SIKHboy** · 01-14-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by biggedon

everyone wants a good deal, that is true.... but not everyone starts with $xx offers

there are members here who will submit offers within range of current or potential value

and then there are the lowballers who think every seller doesn't know value.

That is why these forums exist to get domains at cheap prices. Most here are resellers not end users. If you are filing a petition to get rid of low ballers, dnforum.com will be no different than namejet or snapnames, then why dont you post your names there at snapnames, so you dont get low ball offers instead.

**tetrapak** · 01-14-2011, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by biggedon

minimums don't stop them

you can say $1k minimum offer and lowballers will still post or send lower offers

it's what they do

I see what you mean. If there is a minimum in a sales thread, and someone offers less than that, it should be a violation and has to be punished as any other way of crashing a sales thread. PM's.. well, it doesn't make the post count go higher, and it takes more time to write a PM then to ignore / delete it.

**elius** · 01-14-2011, 06:01 PM

Emotions and business don't mix. If you're insulted by low-ballers you are only hurting yourself. Bartering is just part of the game. Just discard the low offers and work with those with potential.
Since some post clearly state a minimum it would make sense to warn off people offering lower than requested.

**David G** · 01-14-2011, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by biggedon

for me, i'd rather let my domains expire before i sell them at these offerings

so if you want any names i have....you can fight for them at namejet and snap

ditto and I have done exactly that many 100s of times since it's simply not worth the effort to sell so low.

Odd thing is the majority of names I let expire were quickly picked up by places like Buy Domains, domainers, end users and others at prices far higher than they would have sold for at the forum (if I would have offered them for sale at a very low level where they would have a chance to sell).

**draggar** · 01-14-2011, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by biggedon

minimums don't stop them

you can say $1k minimum offer and lowballers will still post or send lower offers

it's what they do

We've also deleted posts like this when the OP has asked us to. When a seller posts a minimum and someone posts a lower offer that could be considered the same as commenting.