Welcome to Welcome to DNF.com™ - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

If you are new to domains and looking to buy, sell and learn about domains then you have come to the right place. DNForum is the largest domain name community on the internet and continues to grow every day. There are over 105,000 domainers on DNForum doing everything from buying domains, selling domains, learning about domains and discussing domains. Take a minute and Register.

Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 63
  1. #1
    Gold Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    10
    DNF$
    256
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    256
    Donate  

    Question Relative worth of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info

    Any thoughts on the relative worth of the gTLD's?

    For example, let's say hypothetically that I have a domain name registered in each of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info. What would be the relative worth of each domain name assuming that it is rather generic (such as "music", "weather", "best" and so on)?

    My thoughts (taking .com as 100):

    .com = 100
    .org = 30
    .net = 35
    .biz = 55
    .info = 45

    Regards,
    Jarrod

  2. #2
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    iBizStart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    2,198
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    4,314
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    4,314
    Donate  
    more like this:
    .com = 100
    .org = 45
    .net = 30
    .biz = 5
    .info = 1

  3. #3
    Gold Lifetime Member
    NamePopper.com's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2,181
    DNF$
    1,429
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,429
    Donate  

    Re: Relative worth of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info

    Originally posted by backslash

    My thoughts (taking .com as 100):

    .com = 100
    .org = 30
    .net = 35
    .biz = 55
    .info = 45
    No offense - but to rate (.info & .biz ) ahead of (.org & .net) - is not only wrong but it's laughable.

    Don't get me wrong - I think those ext's (along with .us which you didn't include) have some value - and possibly a bright future - but they are not on par with the mainstream ext's yet. That doesn't mean they can't still be good ext's though - and I own a few of them myself - and I'm looking forward to the future.

  4. #4
    Account Terminated NameCaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    2,029
    DNF$
    1,625
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,625
    Donate  

    Re: Re: Relative worth of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info

    Originally posted by NamePopper.com


    No offense - but to rate (.info & .biz ) ahead of (.org & .net) - is not only wrong but it's laughable.

    Don't get me wrong - I think those ext's (along with .us which you didn't include) have some value - and possibly a bright future - but they are not on par with the mainstream ext's yet. That doesn't mean they can't still be good ext's though - and I own a few of them myself - and I'm looking forward to the future.
    I tend to agree:
    .biz 1.5
    .bz 0.5
    .cc 0.5
    .ca 1.0
    .com 5.0
    .co.uk 1.5
    .info 1.5
    .jp 1.5
    .net 2.5
    .org 1.7
    .tv 1.0
    .us 1.5
    .ws 0.5
    .de 1.0

    Good Luck!

  5. #5
    Gold Lifetime Member
    NamePopper.com's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2,181
    DNF$
    1,429
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,429
    Donate  
    Hey guys/gals - I'm moving the thread over to the 'Misc' section. Nobody did anything wrong - but the 'Appraisal' section is only for actual domain names (that are registered) to be appraised.

    Thanks - and carry on!

  6. #6
    DNF Regular
    stevo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    1,012
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    5,346
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,346
    Donate  
    .com-- 100
    .net-- 40
    .org-- 35
    .us--10
    .biz-- 5
    .info-- 3
    .ws-- 1

  7. #7
    Gold Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    10
    DNF$
    256
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    256
    Donate  

    Re: Re: Relative worth of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info

    Originally posted by NamePopper.com


    No offense - but to rate (.info & .biz ) ahead of (.org & .net) - is not only wrong but it's laughable.

    Don't get me wrong - I think those ext's (along with .us which you didn't include) have some value - and possibly a bright future - but they are not on par with the mainstream ext's yet. That doesn't mean they can't still be good ext's though - and I own a few of them myself - and I'm looking forward to the future.
    I'm interested to hear your and others thoughts on why you think this is so. Here are my thoughts:

    Simplistic (valid?) analogy: The various gTLD's are like planets, where the majority of the people live on .com. There are many more facilities and services on .com. The other gTLD's are satellite planets. .org and .net are rather crowded. Most people who settled there did so because land on .com was scarce or expensive. The newer .biz and .info planets have more land available. Facilities and services are not as good there yet but the land is more usable for businesses.

    .com is now recognized as a generic web site term (not necessarily .commercial). .org and .net are not considered to be as generic and generally not business related.

    Search engines don't favor one gTLD more than another.

    computers.biz or computers.org? computers.biz for me. For a particular product I'd prefer .info than .net.

    My view is that $worth is greater where $ can be made which is generally in the more business usable (products and services) domains, particularly looking forward into the future.

    BUT: If people are paying more *now* for .org and .net names than .biz and .info on the secondary market then I guess they are worth more! Is this true?

    No flames please! I'm very interested in your thoughts.

    Cheers,
    Jarrod

  8. #8
    Old Timer
    DomeBase's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1,250
    DNF$
    2,404
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    2,404
    Donate  

    Lightbulb

    Previous poll on the subject of relative value across extensions. Not the same thing as relative value for identical second level domain, but personally I think relative value for identical second level name is not the most relevant question considering differences in availability and price to acquire across different extensions. Anyway, hope this is helpful --

    "Which extension(s) are the best for investing in domain names -- considering differences in current prices and your expectations of possible increases or decreases in future value?"

    http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.ph...ght=investment

  9. #9
    DNF Addict
    Edwin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Tokyo, Japan
    Posts
    1,395
    DNF$
    3,820
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    3,820
    Donate  
    I see it something like this (based on sales):

    .com 100
    .net 25
    .org 20
    .biz/.info/.us 20
    .co.uk 10-30 (very good .co.uk will probably fetch more than the same domain in .net)
    JapaneseDomains.com - cheap .jp registrations, English language interface, no local presence required. Alphabetic & IDN names supported. Bulk pricing available.

  10. #10
    Gold Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Posts
    1,315
    DNF$
    603
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    603
    Donate  
    .com = 100
    .net = 40
    .info = 30
    .org = 20
    .biz = 2

  11. #11
    Old Timer
    DomeBase's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1,250
    DNF$
    2,404
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    2,404
    Donate  

    Post

    My estimate in current market for these six:

    .com = 100
    .net = 30
    .org = 25
    .info* = 20 (higher for prime generics and lower for non-words)
    .us* = 15
    .biz = 5 ?

    *most likely to increase in next year

  12. #12
    Gold Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    10
    DNF$
    256
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    256
    Donate  
    Thanks DomeBase. I didn't find that poll/thread when I looked around before posting.

    The poll sample is fairly small but significant nontheless. I guess people around here think that .info has potential but not .biz.

    I left .us out of the mix because I wanted to focus on global TLD's.

    Jarrod

  13. #13
    DNF Addict
    Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    6,006
    DNF$
    8,954
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    8,954
    Donate  
    None of us knows for sure what will happen in the future, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth. I think .info and .us will definitely have an impact on the marketplace but I have major doubts about .biz. It is seeing some acceptance in Europe and other countries but Americans seem to almost universally dislike it. I think buyers here, who need names that have already been taken in .com will flock to .US instead of .biz - unless they market products worldwide. The vast majority of American businesses sell only within the U.S. though.

    If .biz fails to catch on in the largest market in the world that will limit it's overall acceptance. To me the extension has always sounded far too much like slang to be accepted by conservative American corporations. I'm only a small business person and I would hesitate to use it for the same reason. I have bought a very small number of them, just in case my gut instincts prove wrong but when I see a URL with a .biz it currently leaves a negative impression on me. Perhaps that will change in time. It also has a big built-in liability among resellers with the rule against reselling names only (that keeps a lid on registrations). Right now there is no doubt that .biz has the poorest resale value of the 5 global TLD's (and from what I have seen, poorer than .US as well).

    I don't think you can accurately rate the same name in various extensions as a percentage of .com value. For example, some words will work very poorly with .org but others will be great with it. I personally have found good .orgs far easier to sell than .nets. I have begun abandoning .net after originally thinking it was a good alternative. Right now I would only buy it if it was a great one-word or 3-letter domain (or an ISP name, the use it was originally designed for). I think .info will face the same situation as .org. It can be great with the proper words and terms but more limited with others.

    That is why I am so bullish on .US. It works with any term that will be of interest to the American market and that gigantic market is the sole focus of the vast majority of businesses based here. There is also a demand for the extension from foreign companies that want to do business here. It has none of the baggage .net and .org come with and is more versatile than .info (though .info has the advantage of being a global tld).

    The only thing I can see standing it its way is recognition and with the US government now required by law to start spending tens of millions of dollars to promote it, that liability will be overcome. I have been around long enough to see the once ridiculed FM radio band completely overtake AM....and I have seen once despised UHF TV stations gain an equal footing with formerly superior VHF stations, thanks to cable. All extensions enjoy the same "reception" on the internet (in terms of the ability to tune in the picture), so only recognition and usage separates them. As radio and TV have already shown, that situation is highly susceptible to change.

    You need only look at Germany to see how successful a country code can be. For those who say .com is the US country code, maybe so...but the inventory of good .com names has been exhausted and is now priced out of reach for thousands of small businesses. That creates a market demand that will have to be met by one of the new extensions.

    Whatever happens it will be fascinating to watch it play out over the next few years. My opinions have changed over the past year and could change again...but that will be dictated solely by sales results.
    Last edited by Duke; 03-02-2003 at 11:41 PM.
    DNJournal.com T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Las Vegas 2013: A Pictorial Review of the Big Show at the Bellagio

  14. #14
    Gold Lifetime Member
    NamePopper.com's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2,181
    DNF$
    1,429
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,429
    Donate  
    Originally posted by DomeBase
    My estimate in current market for these six:

    .com = 100
    .net = 30
    .org = 25
    .info* = 20 (higher for prime generics and lower for non-words)
    .us* = 15
    .biz = 5 ?

    *most likely to increase in next year
    I think DomeBase has a pretty accurate & realistic table in my opinion. However - I would argue that .ORG should be 'even' with .NET (based on worldwide success) but that is a mute point since he has them close anyway.

    Also I *hope* .BIZ does better since I just bought a few. Hehe

    Originally posted by backslash
    BUT: If people are paying more *now* for .org and .net names than .biz and .info on the secondary market then I guess they are worth more! Is this true?
    Simple answer. YES! (and it's not even close most of time) For that matter - anybody who is this business should know that. That doesn't mean there are not sales exceptions though - and there always will be.

    It's also worth mentioning that many of the seasoned domainers will not even take part in threads like these. Do a search for all the similar threads before - and you will see what I mean. Every month or two someone comes along with the same thing - and the subject can only be debated so often before it gets pointless. Most people are busy selling names - and could care less what anybody has to say in these type of threads.

    Plus - there are some people who just refuse to think 'worldwide' - and outside of their own country. ORG for example is 'as popular' worldwide as NET - and even 'more popular' in some countries. Then there are those who think .com is the ONLY ext worth owning. So there is no point in arguing with people who are narrow minded. That's why so many people don't even get involved in threads like these. I'm not saying any of this applies to people in THIS thread necessarily - but I'm just talking about the 100 that came before it. Hehe!

    For me personally - I sell whatever sells. COM & ORG & NET sell relatively easy. In particular .ORG has been doing very well over the last few months - and with the right selection of single word ORG's - I myself have been very successful with that little extension! This coming from a guy who didn't even own a single ORG until a couple months ago. Luckily - I opened my eyes and listened to people from around the globe - and not just people in my own country. (USA)

    Recently - I have grabbed a few nice .US - .INFO - & .BIZ names myself - and fully intend to support the growth of those extensions. I have high hopes for them - but I'm not convinced yet.

    However - you can throw all this out the window if you don't choose good 'words' to begin with. A crap word is going to be crap in any extension. It also helps to find 'suitable' words for the appropriate extension. For example - you gave Computer.biz -VS- Computer.org - and it may indeed be better - however I will take Life.org over Life.biz any day of the week. Not even a close call.

    Bottom line: there are so many variables - and outside of being filthy rich - there is no easy route to success in this business. It takes a lot of hard work - research - creativity - and an open mind. It also helps to be a good 'salesman' - and have the ability of making the most of what you got.

  15. #15
    Gold Lifetime Member
    NamePopper.com's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    2,181
    DNF$
    1,429
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,429
    Donate  
    P.S. - Nice post by Duke and I agree.

    I would have mentioned it above - but I was busy writing my own little novel and hadn't seen it yet.

  16. #16
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    play's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Sunny Californi
    Posts
    73
    DNF$
    515
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    515
    Donate  

    .org Relative

    Given the perception and and embrace on .org by not profits.

    .org should be viewed in a different category as long as it is a non

    profit 60/100; I'll have to say even then .org should use .com as

    redirection otherwise half the value is gone to something like 35/100.


    Play
    P L A Y

  17. #17
    Domain Buyer
    DaddyHalbucks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Las Vegas, USA
    Posts
    3,210
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    116,312
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    116,312
    Donate  
    I'll apply a grading system to the extensions:

    .COM=A
    .ORG=B-
    .NET=C
    .CA=C
    .DE=C
    .CO.UK=C
    .INFO=C-

    ALL OTHERS=D-
    (WITH OCCASIONAL EXCEPTIONS, FOR TRULY SUPERB NAMES)
    Last edited by DaddyHalbucks; 07-19-2004 at 02:25 PM.

  18. #18
    DNF Addict
    DNQuest.com's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Columbia, MD
    Posts
    1,092
    DNF$
    7,655
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    7,655
    Donate  
    Is the question, what is the value right now or in time?

    Right now, values would be:

    com-- 100
    .net-- 25
    .org-- 15
    .us--5
    .info-- 5
    .biz-- 1

    This is based on perception, marketability and use.

    BUT...

    We are speculators, thus we must look at the market 2 years from now. Remember, it took .com many years before a vast majority knew what it was. With promotion and actual use of non .coms tlds, their value will rise. Unfortunately, .nets and ,orgs have a stigma that they won't be able to shake, but .info anf ,us will increase. Prediction in 2 years:

    com-- 100
    .info-- 45
    .us--40
    .net-- 30
    .biz-- 20
    .org-- 10

    The amount of users will dramatically increase, so the use of non .coms will gain acceptance. I strongly believe .infos will be #2 at some point because they are the most versitile. You will not be able to be creative with non .coms as you would with .com. But the question was for generic terms. non .coms value will rise in value,. You can only have so many creative domains before people will start looking more sensible domains in other extensions. My 2 cents.
    Track emails that you send, PM me to find out how....

  19. #19
    Gold Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Boca Raton, FL
    Posts
    590
    DNF$
    1,963
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,963
    Donate  
    What exactly is the "stigma" that .org has? That it's a noncommercial organization? If you actually *are* a noncommercial organization, that's hardly a "stigma" at all. (Of course, if your only mindset regarding the Internet or domain names is as a way to Make Money Fast, anything noncommercial *would* be stigmatized for you.)

  20. #20
    DNF Addict
    mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Tonga
    Posts
    6,721
    DNF$
    2,056
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    2,056
    Donate  
    While Duke has a point with the States being very dotcom centric as of now, I think its a nisnomer to say biz is not a term that holds no meaning to other parts of the world. It's just a matter of time. The internet is a big place to fish

    http://edition.cnn.com/ASIA/newsbiztoday/
    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Domain name forum recommended by Domaining.com