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    Spam's Killing Me - Suggestions???

    The title says it all. I don't know how to beat them. I seem to try programming with the Junk Mail functions, but it's out of control.

    I usually get about 10% of important e-mail per day. I used a very powerful paid service for anti spam, and it cleaned my real e-mail as well.

    Has anyone beat them?

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    I usually beat spam by creating NEW emails

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    Gmail has a great spam filter - PM me an email address and I'll send you an invite. I use mine for my WhoIs contact.

    Don't use it as your registrar's contact, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fab View Post
    The title says it all. I don't know how to beat them. I seem to try programming with the Junk Mail functions, but it's out of control.

    I usually get about 10% of important e-mail per day. I used a very powerful paid service for anti spam, and it cleaned my real e-mail as well.

    Has anyone beat them?

    I am very much happy using using powered by gmail email. The anti-spam and anti-virus are built-in. I blog this last Feb, it is very easy to setup.

    http://my.king.net/2008/02/outsource-your-mail.html

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    http://www.spampal.org/ for your windows based computer will help a lot.

    A combination of spamassasin / blocklists for your server. Or to get really radical, implement TMDA at the server level.
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    Or to get really radical, implement TMDA at the server level.
    I did at the server level. Found to much real mail there.

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    You can forward your existing email address to a gmail account, and utilize the spam tools there. And you can set it so when you reply from the gmail interface, on the surface, it will appear as if you are replying from your regular email account.
    Take it a step further, just delegate your MX records to gmail and use their hosted apps for all your email, and give your webserver some rest and just serve your database & webpages and things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fab View Post
    I did at the server level. Found to much real mail there.
    Yes, I have never implemented it either. Blocklists can help quite a bit though, and make sure to block anything without a valid reverse dns.

    For blocklists, I use:
    zen.spamhaus.org
    cn-kr.blackholes.us
    bl.spamcop.net
    combined.njabl.org
    dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net
    dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net

    It's a constant battle though..

    Quote Originally Posted by MediaHound View Post
    You can forward your existing email address to a gmail account, and utilize the spam tools there. And you can set it so when you reply from the gmail interface, on the surface, it will appear as if you are replying from your regular email account.
    Take it a step further, just delegate your MX records to gmail and use their hosted apps for all your email, and give your webserver some rest and just serve your database & webpages and things.
    Interesting.. Thanks for the tip, I'll have to take a look at that.
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    You have so much time dealing with your spam issues.

    Good luck to you. I already recommended something usefull and effective.
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    NP South! Doing it that quick-n-dirty way (not the MX way) will give you two layers of spam filtering. Your not-so-good current method to deal with it, then funneled through another layer of protection. The better way would be to setup an apps account and switch your MX records. You also get some great tools there that always get better, like hosted spreadsheets and documents, to name a couple..
    When you do the math of the time you spend dealing with spam, it gets very expensive. Even a minute per day is several hours per year.
    Save your time to do more important things... let the spam engineers at Google deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaHound View Post
    NP South! Doing it that quick-n-dirty way (not the MX way) will give you two layers of spam filtering. Your not-so-good current method to deal with it, then funneled through another layer of protection. The better way would be to setup an apps account and switch your MX records. You also get some great tools there that always get better, like hosted spreadsheets and documents, to name a couple..
    When you do the math of the time you spend dealing with spam, it gets very expensive. Even a minute per day is several hours per year.
    Save your time to do more important things... let the spam engineers at Google deal with it.
    OK, it seems like the vote is out for GMail. I had an account in the past, but never knew it was actually that useful. I would really like to give it a try though to see if it actually catches most of the spam.

    BTW, I waste far more than a few minutes a day on spam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fab View Post
    OK, it seems like the vote is out for GMail. I had an account in the past, but never knew it was actually that useful. I would really like to give it a try though to see if it actually catches most of the spam.

    BTW, I waste far more than a few minutes a day on spam.
    The spam filter deletes anything over 30 days old, with that in mind:

    I normally have 1,500-2,000 emails in my spam folder.
    I have to click "report spam" maybe once or twice a week in my inbox.

    Note: It will not stop spam from places you authorized emails from unless you flag them (such as Amazon.com, PayPal etc..).
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    Note: It will not stop spam from places you authorized emails from unless you flag them (such as Amazon.com, PayPal etc..).
    What about paypal phishing, does it get that, which should actually be quite easy, since the url's are always not paypal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fab View Post
    What about paypal phishing, does it get that, which should actually be quite easy, since the url's are always not paypal.
    This year I've seen one or two phishing get though but I do not know how many are in the spam filter since I never go in there (unless I accidentally click someone as spam or think something went in there that shouldn't have).

    Forward the email to their abuse department then spam it is what I normally do.
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    Been using spamarrest last 3+ years. It's a great service. I get 1000+ spams per day and they filter out almost all of them. The only ones that come in are the ones that look like I sent to myself. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by south View Post
    http://www.spampal.org/ for your windows based computer will help a lot.

    A combination of spamassasin / blocklists for your server. Or to get really radical, implement TMDA at the server level.
    I find spamassassin useless. Their latest version is so hardcore almost no legit email gets through.

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    SpamFighter has been great with me.

    It sometimes crashes my e-mail client (Outlook Express), although overall within a few weeks the spam stops.

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