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Like other business Batman - The Big Name (Insiders) take all the profits because they make the market. They decide witch tlc is going up expotentialy and witch are not. It's really a rought game.
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Stop PARKING your DOMAIN, change your OBJECTIVE.
I joined this industry in 2000, had great knowledge of the internet since 1994. I'm a victim of war, refugee camps, etc. Everyone I knew around me was poor. Convincing people to invest $500 in the .com industry in 94, was hard. Specially people who don't have $10 in their pocket. I tried to convince people with money up to 1999. No one wanted to give me a chance. By 2000 the Domain registration renewal fee was very low.
I started with $36 dollar's. 4 domains
Present day I own 200 long term domains. 80+ short term domains.
My highest domain sale: $5000 US - my cost $24.99
My lowest domain sale: $1 - my loss $5.85-$15
I learned in 2004, domain parking is the fastest and best way to generate money from your undeveloped domains.
NOTE to NEW DOMAINERS: Buying Incoming Traffic for your domains will get you banned and account terminated for life. I learned the hard way and purchased TRAFFIC from other Domainer's who suggested it was the best way to make money and safe.
It's 2008 now, and I'm still searching for a place to PARK. I have made $0.01 from one site, and $20 from another site for the same domain used for parking. Unfortunately, I feel cheated by all of them.
I read a Blog recently, which suggested developing is the best method and most profitable. I agree, but also remind the blogger and other's. The cost is high. I'm not going to develop word press/blog/forum's……. which seems to be the newest and cheapest way to create sites using AdSense.
I believe the best thing for Domainer's in 2008 is to Group with one Another. Example, ""Toronto Domainers"" and start developing domains.
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Recently, Parking Site's don't even respond back to emails!!!! I can name 4.
I have no choice but to go back to GoDaddy CashParking for now, since I paid for it.
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Like other business Batman - The Big Name (Insiders) take all the profits because they make the market. They decide witch tlc is going up expotentialy and witch are not. It's really a rought game.
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As a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :Originally Posted by BATMAN
Sorry batman, too tempting to resist
Last edited by biggedon; 01-14-2008 at 07:26 PM.
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As a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :
Sorry batman, too tempting to resist
Last edited by biggedon; 01-14-2008 at 07:26 PM.
Sure why not, part of the domain investing strategy is to purchase anything that sounds good. The end result is the domains listed in that thread. But what you don't see listed is the other 100+ domains profited from. I have not lost one penny from my own pocket. The investing continues to go in circle's. During the this round cycle, you should Profit More.As a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :
Sorry batman, too tempting to resist
Last edited by biggedon; 01-14-2008 at 07:27 PM.
So why don't you show me your oldest domain?
I'm trying something new with recently acquired domains. mini sites (3-10 pages MAX, most 3-5).
Pages with just enough content to get the search engines looking and type-ins returning. Some news articles, reviews, and so on. Well placed adsense ads, Amazon.com links, affiliate programs.
I'm right now doing this with my first trial domain to see if I do have what it takes to try this out. The domain cost me either $5 or $10 here so the loss is minimal but I'm hoping to make that back in a few months and possibly sell the site in 6 months to a year for a profit. I'll see how it goes.
Parking is great for lazy people (like me) but self parking tends to pay out more per click.
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How about these one'sAs a result you decided to join (727 posts so far !) this forum 3 months ago to sell domains like the ones mentioned here :
Sorry batman, too tempting to resist
Forum's never helped me with my profit's. End-Users/Corporations are your friends in money making. Your reseller or junk domains end up on forum's, Since I started to profit, I had no need for the forum. That was then, now I agree a Domain Forum is the best place to meet and trade with other domain broker's and find gems here and there for a low price.
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Keep me updated, like to know how it works out for you.
Last edited by biggedon; 01-14-2008 at 07:27 PM.
lol, you don't seem to know much for someone that thinks he knows everything aye.
I regged AUDIOSTREAMERS.COM in 2000. What was one that you regged?
Batman..to tell you the truth I'm kinda ashamed that you've been in this since 2000 and your highest sale was only $5,000. You seem like you know a lot on the subject and you post more than anybody else on the forum.
My opinion on parking is, obviously, develop. Into what? Wordpress. It sounds too overused, but, if you know how to develop it properly, with good SEO, your domain will turn into an unlimited money machine - it might not be immediate, but it will stay on for a long time. Having 10 posts/pages, is often enough to make back your investment 1000% within weeks or months, even on the crappiest hand regged domains...Check out my thread on WordPress Development:
Last edited by biggedon; 01-14-2008 at 07:28 PM.
Good 4 U
Will do.Keep me updated, like to know how it works out for you.
I also have to agree, even though WordPress seems over used and cliché, it is the simplest way to get a site up and hits in the domain. As long as your Hosting company offers databases (which I think most do), you are all set.
Set it up, you pot, maybe make a good blog entry 3-5 times a week. Get some friends in to blog and post comments, maybe 1-2 times a week each. In no time you'll have a good blog up and running and traffic will be coming (BTW - "in no time" I mean 3-6 months minimum).
Learn search engine optimization, plant the keywords in the right places that search engines like. My test I have a few paragraphs full of keywords (we help you with XYZ, YZX, YZA, etc..). I'll need to give it time but the sitemap is planted and I have a few people in the waiting to write a few paragraphs for the site.
Even the worst domain proavghuprrfgrtgirdf.com can be worth thousands if developed properly.
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thought as much, full of shit huh?Good 4 U
The truth is, I only sold 3 domains in the past 8 years. $1700, $3000, $5000.
Everything else, $1-$700.
What you are not aware of! Is that I could Cash Out today and walk away with a minimum $65K+ . There is nothing you should be ashamed about. I'm a winner in any investment startup. I have turned $36 American Dollars into a profit.
The point of this thread is not what I make or what you have made from undeveloped domains. It's the lack of tools that are missing in our Domain Industry for Domainer's. There is so much talk about sales here and sales there! But were is all the OLD SCHOOL Domainer's !!?? Simple, they sit back and tell us we don't have a chance, and our domains are worth $0-1000. This is a method they use against new domainer's. Insted, I would suggest they invest their focus on building a foundation that would make us all happy in the sense of developing.
Today, I called up a domain loan company and requested a quote on a loan. They fee is so high, that I have no chance. If the fee was low, both of us would benefit. I would get the domain I want, and they would make more profit in the long term.
The current Domain Industry System is designed and founded by those who only want to expand and profit from our losses.
As you can read, there is always the few who think I'm trying to give out a speech about myself... they seem to not get the point - as domainer's we are loosing the battle against the Parking Companies. They are getting richer with every click. Why not re-direct that click to a system which would benefit all of us.
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My strategy from first day was "LONG TERM = 5-15 years" I'm not interested to sell for low or resell value. I started to focus in the short term strategy, 14 months ago, buying/regging and trading domains with in 45-365 days. This method is profitable, it will cover your yearly expenses.
Short-Term is not my choice, Long Term. I started to reg in 2000 to present day, 80% are guranteed profit by 2015. Profit = House, Car, Boat
Yes, but you have to agree, even from such a tiny investment, 65k in 7 years isn't "enough". With enough effort and development, those domains could be worth 10x value within a year.....
What you are not aware of! Is that I could Cash Out today and walk away with a minimum $65K+ . There is nothing you should be ashamed about. I'm a winner in any investment startup. I have turned $36 American Dollars into a profit.
Absolutely 100% frigging agree with you. (this is how you should of started this thread btw). This puts the entire sad irony of modern day domaining in 1 short paragraph. I really thought about this a couple of days ago - getting DNF members together to start own parking company, so everybody can profit, because in the end, it all comes down to the problem of monetization. Potentially good domains are pretty much worthless, because of lack of good parking/monetization techniques. As I said, the only answer left as of right now is developing - and I recommend WordPress, because of good SEO.....
The point of this thread is not what I make or what you have made from undeveloped domains. It's the lack of tools that are missing in our Domain Industry for Domainer's. There is so much talk about sales here and sales there! But were is all the OLD SCHOOL Domainer's !!?? Simple, they sit back and tell us we don't have a chance, and our domains are worth $0-1000. This is a method they use against new domainer's. Insted, I would suggest they invest their focus on building a foundation that would make us all happy in the sense of developing.
Originally Posted by BATMAN
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The point of this thread is not what I make or what you have made from undeveloped domains. It's the lack of tools that are missing in our Domain Industry for Domainer's. There is so much talk about sales here and sales there! But were is all the OLD SCHOOL Domainer's !!?? Simple, they sit back and tell us we don't have a chance, and our domains are worth $0-1000. This is a method they use against new domainer's. Insted, I would suggest they invest their focus on building a foundation that would make us all happy in the sense of developing.
you can't blame other domainers for your lack of success
some domainers pool together, some network, some work alone
there must be plenty of tools, because there are plenty of successful domainers...
but everyone doesn't necessarily use "tools", some use common sense, read newspapers, attend trade show etc.. they do what they do and come-up with names that sell or produce revenue.
everybody finds their own niche'
it's all about your motivation and willingness to put in work!
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Name me one these domainer's who starte with no money? I would like to learn!
And please reffer us to the tools available for the modern new school domainer?
No one is blaming anyone, I have found success in my method. I'm a Winner, as far as the tools available for development is VERY COSTLY.
Sure, if your a Man/Women with Money in your pocket - then there is millions of tools available for you to access.
I reffer my case to Domainer's who are not rich, who don't have uncle's or father's who lend them money to make money.
i've read about these few dozen individuals who made a big profit from the .com sector. If you do a search on them, you will see these people started early in the game and purchased 1000's of .com's. Registering domain's early in the game was very expensive.
You have used me as a reference to your reply. This thread is not about me or what I have achieved or lost. It's about the positive outlook of the market in 10 years. You state reading the newspaper, Sure who doesn't. Oviously I was 10 miles ahead of anyone else, when I read the press release of Islamic Automobiles! IslamicAutomobiles.com i own 40+ various combinations. Trust Me your statement does not focus on what I'm trying to point out. The major problem is the domain industry. Do a search on Domain Tools, Revenue Help, Development Scripts.... the minimum cost to get the tools you want is $5000+ if your lucky.
There needs to be more team players and more focus about the Role we can all take to protect our assets and make money.
Last edited by biggedon; 01-15-2008 at 08:14 AM.
The guy my wife works for started with less than $100. He recently refused an offer of $10,000,000 for one of his websites that is for sale and recently was a major player in a team of investors who bought a domain for over $300,000 late last year. Too bad he keeps his mouth shut on how he did it.
It is possible to go from rags to riches, but it takes a hell of a lot of work. I am NOT rich in any way. I barely make it month to month to cover my expenses. I buy domains with the little I can save here and there. Hell, I live in the ghetto (I'm white, BTW). I live in a crappy town home in a crappy neighborhood (yes, it could be worse). I drive a $10,000 Kia (I don't think it's possible to get anything new for less). Yes, at times I've gone a little too far with domains, but that is what credit cards are for.
I've taken a step back in my strategy. I am no longer expecting to be able to resell domains months down the road for more than what I paid for them, so I'm buying cheap domains - ~$(reg fee) and throwing up mini sites. Maybe I'll spend more if it is in my niche and I can really develop it for more.
As for the tools, most drop catchers will send you daily lists, some will include your keywords. Google has reverse-search tools (keywords) to help you maximize SEO in your site. Both of these are free. Project WhoIs and SEO Quake are nice (free) plugins for FireFox.
Most of the domaining and SEO tools out there are worthless, they give you information that is 100% free, if you know where to look (there's the trick). They just provide you with a great tool, great UI, and very fast results for less than 1% of the work. You're paying for the tool (much like calling 411 for a phone number, yes you can get it for free, but you're paying them for the convenience of doing all the work for you).
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There is 30,000+ members on DNForum
If 100 Domainer's each invest $500 into a FUND it = $50K
As a Group, we can choose who has the best domain for development.
The group will vote, the end result is. 50K + Domain = Money
The group I reffer too, is Domainer's who are NOT RICH. These Rich Domainer's are interested to make money for them selfs and Good For them!
But what about the rest of us?
The formula above for 50K budget is simple theory we can use to move forward.
The First Group for Domainer's by Domainer's.
We can use the Fund to purchase domain's or develop domains. If we have the opportunity to cash in on a reseller price tag, why not. Or 50K turns into 100K.
Last edited by Hope; 01-14-2008 at 09:16 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
cough cough, it's already been done and in process for awhile now...
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