What's the next Domain rush?

[incka]

Originally Posted by sutuicom

NNN.co.in are going fast, only about 650 left.

So I think the next rush will be NNN.co.in.

So you mean 350/1000 are gone - that's a definite big buy out


I can understand NNN.com. I can't get why NNN.co.in is worth much.

[sutuicom]

Originally Posted by incka

So you mean 350/1000 are gone - that's a definite big buy out


I can understand NNN.com. I can't get why NNN.co.in is worth much.

There were about 200 NNN.co.in been regged last week.

[alexsimon]

Originally Posted by sutuicom

There were about 200 NNN.co.in been regged last week.

Just because they are regged, they are not valued more in the eyes of end users!

People just don't get it. Domaining is not a domainer to domainer market. We have to find domains that are appealing to end users. Not domains that will be all bought out and then traded as collectibles among domainers.

Rubber Duck is right here.

A buyout is too overvalued.

If I and a group of 5 other domainers would start the LLL.name buyout, I am 100% sure that other domainers would join in, and when the buyout would occur, domainers would trade the better ones for 2X regfee. Does this make them valuable? No, because they have no value!.

But hey it is not my money, invest in the next big thing, if you believe so.

[a2zdomain.net]

What do you think about good ccTLD, like .tv, .cc, .rs or .my?
These are some ccTLDS which you can still get L.my or LL.my!
of course...cctLDs has more restriction and costy. but it could be a boom...especially the recent go live .rs and coming .my landrush on 25 March 2008.

I am buying .cd and .my

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by sutuicom

NNN.co.in are going fast, only about 650 left.

So I think the next rush will be NNN.co.in.

Don't think so. Generally speaking where top level country codes are in existence, second level is going nowhere, and you always risk loosing the shout when they bring out the top level. How much Cruises.co.uk when Cruises.UK or Cruises.GB hits the street?

[incka]

.UK and .GB are likely to not come out any time soon if ever. If they do it's likely the .co.uk domain owners will automatically get first picking of the .UK of their domain.

.co.in is going to slowly lose value as .in becomes more popular yes, so NNN.co.in isn't a good investment.

Premium three letter ccTLDs of countries with a reasonably high living standard and population of 5 million and over is my favourite bet as they have good end user value. ABJ.ch was available a few days ago - I'd rather buy that than the 5 NNN .co.in's I could get for the same price as it has much more end user potential as there could be a company or organisation that is founded in Switzerland with the initials ABJ and is willing to pay a few thousand US$ for that domain. If it's still available and someone isn't as massively in debt as I am go register it

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by incka

.UK and .GB are likely to not come out any time soon if ever. If they do it's likely the .co.uk domain owners will automatically get first picking of the .UK of their domain.

I totally agree, but note the use of the word likely twice. Not a good basis for investing upwards of a million dollars!

[incka]

Cruises.co.uk was sold to an existing business that is obviously making quite a lot from selling cruises (cruise.co.uk is it's URL). As I feel it is incredibly unlikely within the next 10 years or so there will be a .UK I feel it will have easily make back its investment.

I think it was a fair price for that domain, seen as though cruises.com should probably go for 5 to 10 times that to an end user.

There is the risk with .com that it will be replaced as top dog by a .web - it's highly highly unlikely but still possible. There's also the possibility the UN will take over the web and end or change top level domains like .com. Unlikely but possible. About as possible within the next decade as .UK becoming an extension you can buy second level domains under. The chance is less than 1% for either. Far less than average risk in investments.

[PRED]

buyer and seller both had money to burn too, that was quite a big factor in price.
i too thought wacky buy.
actually though they did the maths on acorndomains, and most are obviously more experts in this area and it actually added up, on the returns they could expect if used.

its a mad world sometimes though, the guys that bought own cruise.co.uk which is an ugly biatch of a website, but they make a killing.

also whats strange is their plan for a social networking kind of site for the new name, one can only imagine it'll end up a wifeswapping or 'dogging' site lol, but on cruiseliners

[GAMEFINEST]

.asia is the next buyout , just kidding

i see LLLLL.COM

[Yaadoo]

If LLLLL.com is the next buy out, it would be a horror story. LLLL.com with less than half a million vs LLLLL.com with 12 million.

If LLLL.com can go down to like $40 I don't know how low LLLLL.com can go, especially with 12 reg fee and renewal to sustain buyout, it'll just drop like nuts from a tree.

[mspin]

I think .in will be a big winner but needs a few years. There are a lot of good domain hacks with .in

[Yaadoo]

What do you mean by domain hacks?

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by sunroof

These three:

NNNNN.com - I bought about 100 of these recently, and was suprised to see how much traffic some of them have, primarily from China. The post by rbkdomain above explains why, and I'm glad I got 'em.

The reason the Chinese like them is because most don't speak English and they had trouble remembering English urls...so they have been using numbers for a lot of their websites.

With the upcoming release of Chinese language idn.idn in late 2008 or 2009, combined with idn.com, idn.cn etc. they may fade in popularity with the Chinese as they start to move more towards the use of native script international domain names. Just worth watching the trend and traffic IMO.

[2fly1]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

I am seeing a lot of movement in the prices of LLN or NLL dot net and .org lately. Seems the average price for those in .com are in the $500 range. And LNL or NLN .com are in the $350 range. Anytime you see prices ticking up for one extension and those prices are sustained then there is activity in the other extensions.
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Glad to hear it, I've been buying some NNL.org

[a2zdomain.net]

chinese like numbers...so, NNNNN.com would be well sought by the chinese

[mspin]

Originally Posted by Yaadoo

What do you mean by domain hacks?

Some I have are like 1-w.in (one-win) / tapped.in / chug.in etc.

from Wikipedia


A domain hack is an unconventional domain name that combines domain labels, especially the top-level domain (TLD), to spell out the full "name" or title of the domain, making a kind of pun.
For example the second-level domain (SLD) blo.gs makes use of the TLD .gs (South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands) to spell "blogs", chronolo.gy uses the TLD .gy (Guyana) to spell "chronology", and tel.ly uses the TLD .ly (Libya) to spell "telly" (a popular British slang term for television).
The third-level domains del.icio.us and cr.yp.to make use of the SLDs icio.us and yp.to from the TLDs .us (United States) and .to (Tonga) to spell "delicious" and "crypto" respectively.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by a2zdomain.net

chinese like numbers...so, NNNNN.com would be well sought by the chinese

Haven't these names been available for about 15 years.

If there were literally millions of Chinese queueing up to get their hands on them, don't you think they would have all gone by now?

[rkbdomain]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Haven't these names been available for about 15 years.

If there were literally millions of Chinese queueing up to get their hands on them, don't you think they would have all gone by now?

Actually, they are all gone, bought out a month ago in large part due to interest from China. I think Chinese domainers own a sizeable portion of the NNNNN.com's, about 10% of NNNNN.com's are developed Chinese sites, and 3 of the top 100 Alexa Chinese sites are NNNNN.com's. Apparently, some domainers on the Chinese forums have even been talking about doing a NNNNNN.com countdown, although I don't know if that's going anywhere yet (1 million of those!).

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by rkbdomain

Actually, they are all gone, bought out a month ago in large part due to interest from China. I think Chinese domainers own a sizeable portion of the NNNNN.com's, about 10% of NNNNN.com's are developed Chinese sites, and 3 of the top 100 Alexa Chinese sites are NNNNN.com's. Apparently, some domainers on the Chinese forums have even been talking about doing a NNNNNN.com countdown, although I don't know if that's going anywhere yet (1 million of those!).

Now, I think you really are getting out of your depth.

Numbers mean stuff to the Chinese. Certain number sequences are almost like proverbs. But not all numbers mean stuff. Some are just numbers.

The next big thing in China is already underway. It domain names in Chinese Characters, which is heavily supported by the Chinese government, but has been interminably delayed by Microsoft through their reluctance to roll out a supportive browser and ICANN that has done everything possible to interminably delay putting ASCII character strings into the root, simply because they decode to Chinese Characters. Somebody made up a cock and bull story about it crashing the Internet, so we had to wait a couple of year whilst they dreamt up to a test to prove that one set of ASCII characters behave in exactly the same way as another set of ASCII characters. However, their ruses for delay are now just about exhausted.

Of course the other interesting thing is that the Chinese have their own numerical characters which actually embody the meanings much more forcibly than their western counterparts.