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| Name: Tia Wood Last Online: Today 02:18 AM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Jan 2006
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Country: | Yes there is. I'd list them but I would be violating the rules and my post would be edited. ![]()
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| Bloody lovely Last Online: Yesterday 10:43 PM iTrader: (393) Join Date: Feb 2004
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Country: | Dale, I guess you're right. So after all these years of activity, I guess I will be the proverbial sacrificial lamb. I am taking off until this mess of moderation overkill gets resolved. It all points to one person and that one person alone. Good luck.
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| The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Yesterday 07:05 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() OK, people keep bringing up the ccTLD sections. Some of them are good - they get a lot of traffic (.us, .ca, etc..) while others don't see much action (.jp, .nl) but the question(s) is (are): 1) Do we eliminate all of them - annoying those who do use them (and annoying the people who like to post different sales in each section)? 2) Do we only eliminate some of them? Where would the cutoff be? How would the people who deal in .de (one of the most popular ccTLDs) if that section was eliminated because of the small amount of traffic? What about .mobi and .tel? .tv? 3) Do we leave them as-is and annoy the people who don't want them around saying it clutters up the forums? 4) Do we expand them to include many more ccTLDs - while making people who deal in .mx, .vz, and .bz domains happy but cluttering it up for everyone else? The same exact thing could easily be said about the ccTLD discussion forums. To add on, we have many subforums that don't see alot of traffic, for example http://www.dnforum.com/f479/ hasn't seen a post in over a year (and it only has two posts). I'm sure Adam and Chuck are reading this thread so I'm sure they'll also listen (well, read) any constructive critisim / suggestions about these subforums, too.
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| Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 12:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003
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Country: | Theo, you and I and a few other contributors have been here for many years. We've seen stuff come and go. Others suggest that there are alternative places where one can reasonably do business, but you and I know different. The fact is that you have been here longer than most and a lot of people hang on to your every word. I always make sure to follow any comment you make, but with respect, I think this witch hunt has been done to death, and like so many other things where we have 'moved on' over the years, I think this is 'nolo contendere'.
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| Platinum Lifetime Member | Quote:
What is often missing is what we have in the real world, which is a credibility check. It's fine to say that everyone is equal, but the real world doesn't work that way. We are not all equal, and the idea of treating a person who has run a domain business for 10 years the same as many of the first class wankers on this board is absurd. A great example: I posted a name for appraisal and "britishbulldog" posted what can only be classified as an unprovoked profanity fest in response. I thought to myself "well that guy will be banned soon". In fact, he was not, and I thought to myself "nothing's changed here". When cancerous users are treated the same as serious business people and when serious business people are edited for silly transgressions, you know you have a problem. Inmates running the asylum. | |
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| Dances With Dogs Name: Dances With Dogs Last Online: Today 01:53 AM iTrader: (72) Join Date: Dec 2006
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Country: | Summation: Revisit the need for 62 forum Headings (categories) Revisit the need for 218 sub-forums (sub-catefories) Generate email/PM of thread closure - mods continue to post "why"thread closed - autogenerated like "moved thread" will do - contain instructions to view decision in thread - NO need for moderator to PM, DM, email etc. if format like "moved thread" adopted. |
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| The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Yesterday 07:05 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 12:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003
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In reality DNF has enough clout to open up these forums and make hay while the sun shines. I'm sure you're aware that the .uk ccTLD is 10% as large as the .com arena. That is a LOT of potential bums on seats here.
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| Alleged Cybersquatter Last Online: Yesterday 08:23 PM iTrader: (15) Join Date: May 2002
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| The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Yesterday 07:05 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() But - it's not a binary question (all/1 or none/0) - we have the grey areas reduce, keep the same, or expand (maybe I should have left 5 options?). It's clear that if we do keep some, .co.uk, .us, and .ca would be included but where do we draw the line? .Ru may not be to popular now but what if we get a lot of people from former Soviet-bloc / Russia in who want to deal in these names? .De (again) - we see these sales every week with impressive figures but that section doesn't have much activity (this tells me there isn't a lot of domainer to domainer sales). Some of these are limited to country residents while others are open. When one goes from restricted to open, shall we see a new section for them? (BTW - this is not really going off topic - this is dealing with a section notorious for having threads moved into them). Some of these sections have cobwebs on them and some vermin living in the cupboards. If someone lists a line of .jp domains for sale, IMO it should be in the .jp section - I have a feeling not many people sit and browse from forum to forum, most probably click on the "unread posts" link near the top of their screen (so it would still get exposure) plus it would be readily available for those who are looking for that specific ccTLD. I know if I had some money and started to invest heavily in .us domains - I'd stop first in the .us section, not in the general areas.
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| Administrator Name: Chuck Last Online: Yesterday 08:05 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Oct 2008
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Country: | We are messing around with a hack that will send the OP a PM when a thread is closed, edited or deleted and give, or point to, an explanation as to why. This doesn't solve all the issues but should at least help in that regard. Chuck |
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| CrossLogix.com Last Online: Yesterday 04:44 PM iTrader: (65) Join Date: Mar 2006
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| iSpoof.com Last Online: Yesterday 10:17 AM iTrader: (112) Join Date: Sep 2002
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Gregr aka Fearless said the exact same thing a while back, when this same group were complaining about rules before. Quote:
but it's still less than 10 or the same 10 or less who don't want to be moderated. it was a personal attack on me waiting to happen, but it's something that i'm always prepared for. if you feel like you're in kindergarten, maybe it's because sometimes you act so elementary. it's not up to you to define what an employee of this forum does. don't even know how or why you let yourself think, that you should be the one who designs and defines the SOP for moderators behaviour and actions. in the words of Mike Tyson....that's ludicrous! sorry Theo, but i ain't gonna even try and be like Mike, Kobe, John, Draggar or anyone else. i am who i am but i'm glad all this came out. Quote:
what Dale said! a lot of comments here about what a mod could do but what about what a member can do can they not check their threads before they submit them, to ensure they conforming to guidelines? can they make sure they are posting their threads in the correct forum? can they read and comply with the criteria for posting in "Domains with Traffic" section. these are things that members should be doing but they don't. though i don't see many members starting suggestions threads, to advise other members to read and follow the rules. but have no problem complaining when one enforces them. also, some of you have mentioned other forums but i know you don't go there and try the same bs that you do here. you surely don't go there and disrespect other members and you don't go there thinking you're going to get or deserve special treatment. and if business, topic ranges, potential clients, etc was/is so good over there, then.... imo...
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| Dances With Dogs Name: Dances With Dogs Last Online: Today 01:53 AM iTrader: (72) Join Date: Dec 2006
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IF a mod does his job and IF a notice is given for WHY a thread was moved/closed and IF there is a link redirected back to the thread and IF that thread contains the notation as to why the thread was closed then that is the beginning and end of the mods involvement. That one notation at the top is all the reason needed. But the person who started the thread NEEDS THAT REASON (email). It is not at all complicated. An action/reaction deserves some notice. The justification as to the WHY's is the rules. So why make things complicated? Look how many threads have been started in the last few weeks (me included) that starts with members being pissed off at something. And most of those threads are from members who have been here for a while. | |
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| DeliciousNames.com Last Online: 11-04-2009 11:56 AM iTrader: (52) Join Date: Jan 2007
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I used to post like DnforumDOTcom . Spiders could not index it. Many threads were closed due to people wanting to avoid spiders and post. I think either above way DnforumDOTcom or "dn forum .com " are solutions to avoid spiders. If the rules relaxed like above, many threads would not be closed and it would also reduce the tension between Mods and domainers. I expect no personal attack on my reply here.
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:02 AM iTrader: (87) Join Date: Nov 2007
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DNF$: 145 Location: san carlos, CA | I think the mods do a great job and should be commended. We are here to do business and to help each other. If people dont follow the rules and nothing is done then it is likely to degrade and the forum simply becomes 'noisier'. It has a lot of volume of posts so they need to be orderly so you can find things. The best suggestions IMO are suggestions for software to help make things better. I like the idea that closing a thread would trigger a PM to the OP. Thats good. But again, it bears repeating: the mods do a great job and I appreciate it! Kevin
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| Administrator Name: Chuck Last Online: Yesterday 08:05 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Oct 2008
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| The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Yesterday 07:05 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007
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Country: | Members following the rules doesn't need to be an issue either. As Biggie said - there are always posts, reports, and PMs complaining that we are being "unfair" or "playing favorites" because we closed a thread. People are always saying that the MODs aren't doing their job this, mods are going after me (as if we have time for that), etc. yet we never see people saying "well, if you just put the domain in the title...". Yes, subforums have rules but here are the big ones that are always broken:
Its a two way street. I saw an article the other day - police are installing cameras at traffic lights to catch people running red lights. People were complaining that the police should have better things to do (when you think about it - this will free them up) and don't like the cameras catching them. Well, it's the same thing - don't run red lights and you won't get ticketed - it doesn't matter if you are in a hurry, aren't paying attention, or feel that you are more important to everyone else to risk a major accident. It is the mods' job (and the admins') to enforce the rules (well, one of our jobs) while it is the member's job to follow them. If members don't like a rule, there is the suggestion forum for that and the decision makers (usually admins) will make a decision. I would personally (this is NOT an official decision- just IMOHO) support domainDOTcom or even domain(DOT)com (IMO this one is better) but I would not support any kind of spacing in the title - it could be misleading (imaging someone posting "Selling a great domain - computers.com!" only to see that they were selling "agreatdomain-computers.com").
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