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Old 04-13-2003, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A somewhat controversial suggestion

I was thinking that maybe a better membership plan could be formed.

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Note: This suggestion was more controversial than I intended. I had it backwards in terms of advertisement priviledges importance. Sorry for the confusion!! A better plan I think would be for gold members to have bidding and attending auction priviledges (and non links sigs and dnf money earning capability) and the platinum members would have advertisement and complete auction priviledges + perks. The free members would have basic post (obviously not in advertisement forums which would be platinums sole domain) and pm functionality but no dnf money earning ability, sigs or avatars.

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Old 04-13-2003, 11:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree, the current method needs to be changed a bit and we are addressing that now. Thanks for the feedback!!!
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Old 04-13-2003, 11:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sure, no problem.


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Old 04-13-2003, 11:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree, the current method needs to be changed a bit and we are addressing that now. Thanks for the feedback!!!
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Old 04-13-2003, 12:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I like this as well, I say leave the auction to the platties and let us goldies post in the ad section....good idea peaceful
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Old 04-13-2003, 12:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As Rat said - we have been discussing this very topic in the Mod/Admin forum. If there is an obvious improvement that needs to be made (given the new amount of traffic) you can rest assured that it will be taken care of.

We are not going to reverse the major rules though - as it would defeat the whole purpose of having different levels. So while we may make some minor changes - don't expect Gold members to have all the same privledges of Platinum.
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Old 04-13-2003, 12:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2003, 12:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It doesn't necessarily have to be like I outlined.

The main point is just to include as many people as possible.

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I think there are many things you have to look at when you "Change" something.

You definitely don't want DNF to become a "free-for-all" where names like "JunkSoldHereInMyStore.cc" are the "norm" in the Ad Section.

What will happen to the popularity of the "Live Auctions" if more action is happening in the "Ad section"?? Will "Plat" memberships be seen as something "good".

My suggestion if you are going to allow "Free Memberships" is to not allow any "For Sale" type stuff, or Businesses listed in the sig line. I would say to allow it for gold, but only allow Plats to have "hot links".

Keep one thing in mind. A lot of members come to this board so they don't have to weed through junk posts. This is a very serious board. We all seen what Afternic Forums evolved into.

With Forums "Bigger" is not always "Better".

When you have a paid model structure it only works if people feel like they are getting something no one else is getting, hence the reason they forked over $49.95. If they see free members selling items in their sign line "for free" obviously what would be the incentive to keep their "paid" memberships. Especially when most of the action will now probably happen in the "Ad Section".

Also the e-book stuff is great, but most of that stuff can be gotten off the internet for nothing. So if this becomes the "plus" for being a plat member, I'm thinking you will see that membership drop in number. Again... Motivation....Exclusivity....Purpose... That's what keeps Paid "Membership" Forum's going.

izopodian philosophy: If you want something to be popular on the internet, make sure that what you are offering cannot be had anywhere else. If you look at this from a real world perspective, why do popular "clubs" do well? Answer: Usually there is a high cover charge (weed out undesirables) and you can't get that kind of "experience" anywhere else, whether it be the kind of music being played, look/feel of the club, the exclusivity of it all, etc, etc.

more izopodian philosphy: Don't change the people to attract the market. Make the market more attractive to get the people.


Note: I do like some of the changes here, but I think if we get into a "something is wrong" mode, then you will ruin it. There was absolutely nothing wrong in my opinion. I think as soon as the "look" of the site changed, It gave me the "impression" that change needed to be made. I found myself looking for ways to "improve". However after realizing this, I thought, if you were looking to change anything, would be to go back to the "feel" DNF had, Blue top, with a possibly updated logo would do the trick! Then as you are contemplating tweak the "tier structure" with the suggestions made above.

Either way, I will support whatever. However remember that advice is easy to get, but good advice is hard to come by, espcially the free kind.

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I agree totally. Any free membership imo would have just the bare minimum. You can post and pm. That's it.

No dnf money, no signature at all, no avatar (oh maybe give them an avatar) etc.

The point is to encourage paid memberships (from management perspective). But to do it in a way that encourages sales for everyone, and that doesn't create this kind of - oh they are a pay forum, screw them, population.

The more people that interact and are involved the better. There's more potential.

Granted, one may say who cares what some think but bottom line wise, I think it is wise to get as many in as you can, grow the participating traffic, grow sales (domain name sales), and when the free people see the benefits to a gold and plat memberships, you will grow the paid memberships.

Just my opinion.

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If Gold Membership privilages change to include Listing Domians for sale in the Advertising section a downgrade Membership option will also have to be introduced for those which upgraded/paid to have this very privilage as izopod stated.

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izopodian philosophy: If you want something to be popular on the internet, make sure that what you are offering cannot be had anywhere else. If you look at this from a real world perspective, why do popular "clubs" do well? Answer: Usually there is a high cover charge (weed out undesirables) and you can't get that kind of "experience" anywhere else, whether it be the kind of music being played, look/feel of the club, the exclusivity of it all, etc, etc.

more izopodian philosphy: Don't change the people to attract the market. Make the market more attractive to get the people.
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The other thing you could do is allow gold to have auction attending and bidding priviledges, a signature (I guess nonlinked) and allow them to earn dnf money through posting. Not advertisement forum priviledges - I had that backwards! Sorry Tippy!!!

Kind of like the way it is now.

The free would be barebones. No sig, no dnfmoney earning capabilities or avatar. But allowed to post (limitedly) and send and receive pms.

so it would be:

let the free members post (limitedly) and pm with no dnf money or sigs, let gold participate in auctions (attend and bid) and have non linked sigs and dnf money (kind of like the way it is) and let the platters have all of the above and complete auction priviledges and the advertising section + perks (the way it is).

Just a suggestion.

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Then again, maybe its fine the way it is.

I just thought by allowing limited posting and pm prvildeges for free members you would encourage more participation and paid memberships. Maybe I'm totally wrong on this.


Anyways, I'm sure the management will do the best job!

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