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I think the silence tells its own story.Originally Posted by newvista
I also followed the link, ready to purchase but no PayPal option and the order page according to my browser was not 100% secure. Sent an email to their support for further instuctions if Paypal is an option. Has no one heard from Adam if this is legit or someone using his name.
it's fair to monetize ... it's good to see DNF exploring various models of generating revenue.
there is always an option to unsubscribe from marketing mails, disable receiving these marketing mails in settings if i am not wrong
more money to DNF means more options for end users: enhancements and exposure!
If I wasn't sitting amongst fellow pros I would swear there were some pretty gullible people around here.
you guys make me laugh...
Have you removed your name from the mailout list?
I have recieved a couple emails from dnf but hardly been bombarded lol ...
I deleted the emails I'm not interested in...and it took me less time then posting this message.
come on folks lets be honest how many emails have you recieved or been flooded with?
If that number is too large for your taste just remove your name from mailouts..
geesh
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My point exactly.
Look, it's like this, I like dnforum, I like adam,..I dont like spam.
Ok, no biggie so far, lets just delete it. with me so far?
But the op brought up the question. This implies to me and obviosly others that at least a few people here dont like spam, no matter the source.
Now instead of just asking about the issue, some have resorted to belittlement and sarcastic behavior toward their FELLOW forum members and professionals. This in of itself is poor behavior not very becoming of us as adults and/or leaders. We should be above that.
Adam has chosen not to respond and that is his prerogative. It is his site and we can safely assume all adverts here, including emails to member addresses are in fact authorized and supported by Adam.
The important thing to remember here, and this is very important for any webmaster to understand including Adam, is this...
The email is spam. I dont believe anyone here has willingly and explicitly opted-in.
There should be opt-out mechanisms built in to each email to opt-out.
This is not rocket science and benefits the website if this kind of feedback is openly offered in a non malicious way.
This is why I post in this thread.
Now, lets take a look at how to prevent your emails from being considered spam, or prevent negetive responces like this thread from occuring.
- Do I have prior explicit and verifiable permission, opt-in, from the recipient?
- Does the message have:
- A clear and accurate sender identity?
- An accurate subject line?
- Clear and easy opt-out instructions?
- A physical postal address and company details?
- A valid return address?
- Have I tested that the subscription and unsubscription works?
- Have I checked the test messages carefully before posting? Did my colleague do this, too?
- Can I process the replies and any subscriber requests promptly?
While it would be a good idea to present clear opt-in statements, this may be hard to do for members here for 10 years or more when the issue didnt exist. But clear opt-out info is mandentory in the email body.
Opt-in email: advantages
Preserves your email marketing reputation
Shows customers that you respect their privacy
Helps you email people who are interest in what you're selling
Saves you time and money by micro-focusing your list
Lets you be more targeted in your campaigns
Helps you build long-term, trust-based relationships with customers
Can boost your sales and product interest
The perils of bulk, uninvited email
Sending bulk email spam puts your email marketing reputation at risk -period. When you send mass emails to people who never asked for them, they're going to hit the spam button. This will get you in trouble with Internet service providers, and at worst, get your email and IP address blacklisted.
The disadvantages of sending bulk email spam:
Your recipients will be unresponsive
You'll waste time sending to an unresponsive audience
You'll waste money sending emails to people who don't want them
You'll ruin your email marketing reputation
You'll ruin the reputation of your company or business
You'll see your open and click-through rates drop
Now, once again, I am not whining, as I see this thread a great resource for customer/member reaction to the unsolicited emails. And it should be taken as such by Adam and co. There is no need for anyone to post aything but their opinions, but when it degrades into the likes of what has been shown in this thread, then why the hell would Adam or anyone give any cred to this being feedback originated by the op, and followed up by the following feedback.
Take from it what you will. But be constructive?! Seriously?!
(some content above taken from inet resources to be used as an example only, and available as common knowledge from a variety of resources in more detail)
Welcome to the internet- this must be your first day here.
Rule #1 is NEVER respond a a spammer unless you really want to give your personal information and bank account information over to people who have already proven they are up to no good.
Rule #2 is NEVER click the "opt out" link on spam, because that only validates to the spammers that your email is still active, so they can continue using it and sell your email address on the 'active' list for more money.
---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------
Yep, lots of newbies here.
Plenty of people on here seem to have an opinion about Spam. Do I dare to interject one of my own domains for sale? Yes, I do: vsSPAM {.}com.
The opt-out mechanism might be a ruse to collect active email addresses in some cases, but with many reputable mailing list providers it does work as intended--removing the email automatically. Yes, there is always the potential to collect those removed emails and assemble another list; but it would be a list of the people who are the LEAST receptive to spam, and that's exactly opposite the kind of list spammers would like to have--which would be a list of active email addresses that do NOT get annoyed and opt out.
Spoken like a true domainer. Sir, I salute you.
lol
Some of us would just like confirmation that Adam is aware that these emails are going out. I must admit I was a little surprised at someone of Adam's calibre and status seemingly backing this email. I only received two and it's no biggie to delete them - just find it hard to believe that Adam needs his cut of this $17 for something that is quite clearly trash.
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Just found this thread as I have been busy with other projects, to be clear, Yes I authorized that email and over 115 people sign up.
Do I need $17, no, is it a good educational tutororial by Trent, No, it's an amazing Tutorial on how to build Authority Websites, which by the way I have no been buiklding for months and getting on page 1 of Google.
Google Panda and Penguin and I am sure more updates are making Authority Sites mandatory, do I really believe in this training, yes, I just went out and bought authoritywebsite.com and will be posting a business there that sellls authority websites.
Adam
... and yes if you opt out in your control panel you don't get any emails from us, but then you woudn't know that there is one coming with .com net and org domains for $2.50.
Your loss.
Adam
Authority websites are becoming more valuable by the day. You'd probably be better off keeping the sites
Adam, I would appreciate if you would also take a look at: http://www.dnforum.com/f71/has-joke-thread-482760.html
Sababa my friend
i m yet to beleive its real.i ve fallen victim anyway.i m a newbie and i m still learning.i got the mail as well,
since it was $17 i decided to give it a trial.after placing my order i got immediateb response that my transaction was declined due to irregular payment address
few minutes later i receved another email the copy is below
Hi Peter
I see that you had a problem with your credit card while trying to purchase a membership at NicheSiteMastery.com the other day. If you like, you can send the payment of $17 via Paypal to mailfortrent@gmail.com. If you are wishing to purchase the additional offer at http://nichesitemastery.com/dcg2/, please include an additional $37.
Upon receipt of funds, I will manually create your account for you.
Cheers,
Trent
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but this morning i receved a transaction alert! my visa card has been charged $17 followed by another email as shown below
Dyrand Systems USA, Inc Customer Receipt/Purchase Confirmation
Hide Details
FROM:
TO:
Message flagged
Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:49 AM
Thank you for your order!
Order Information
Merchant: Dyrand Systems USA, Inc Description: Auto-charge for Invoice #308
Invoice Number: 308 Customer ID: 11980
Billing Information
Peter Umejei
Blk 128.flat 3 Alaka estate
Surulere, lagos 234
Nigeria
pumejei@yahoo.com
0Shipping Information
Total: US $17.00
Visa
Date/Time: 08-May-2012 12:49:58 AM PT Transaction ID: 4363205295
i need clarifications,anyone with useful info pls?
Not sure but it looks like the "Trent" dude is attempting to skim off of Adam's commission by diverting the $17 to pay pal and including the Upsell in the same process. I know this was a common trick American Express used to do to rip me off in the early days of credit card affiliates.
Now if you do not hit his Paypal with a transaction...he goes ahead and processes the credit card...if this is what is happening...pretty slimy stuff that I would not want to be a part of.
Peter, all is ok, Trent had the sceurity settings way to high so quite a few got declined.
He fixed that and then most were approved.
Trent is a good guy, we have been working together now for about a year.
Adam
Hi Adam.
I'm a new customer. Made two purchases from you so far.
I will decide if blocking spam is my loss or not. I think it's a bit rich to spam customers then claim it's their "loss" to decline it. I would expect a great deal more humility from a supplier and a good deal less arrogance. I liked the look of this place and yourself but this episode is raising a big question mark.
Like others, I assumed the emails from Admin were for important matters regarding the forum, not spam. If you change the wording to "Receive emails (including sales emails) from Admin" you won't have a problem.
Better still, make a separate email list for the sales emails. As it stands I have turned off the emails so won't get important ones regarding the forum.
Cheers.
Last edited by Charles Sweeney; 05-08-2012 at 11:58 AM. Reason: Put in the line breaks that magically disappeared when I made the post!
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