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Banned: bidawinner · 08-21-2003, 06:02 PM

Uncwilco has added Names and I just added conventioncenters.us website/domain

**SlashRoot.Com** · 08-21-2003, 06:32 PM

bidawinner,

I will be adding a few this evening.

SlashRoot

**unclewilco** · 08-21-2003, 06:35 PM

nice one i was starting to think only me and my odd infos would be on....

Banned: bidawinner · 08-21-2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by unclewilco
nice one i was starting to think only me and my odd infos would be on....

You looked lonely in there wilco..

..

I will try and add a few more..

Banned: bidawinner · 08-21-2003, 07:22 PM

I added MatchMaker.Org.Uk ..I had a few people express interest in this domain last month..couldnt close a deal at $160.. ..
well here you go starting bid $40.. and proxy is working so you may get it very cheap ..

Banned: bidawinner · 08-21-2003, 08:04 PM

More names have been added.. you have until Friday afternoon to add names..

**SlashRoot.Com** · 08-22-2003, 03:33 PM

About 30 more minutes to add names.

Banned: bidawinner · 08-24-2003, 07:10 PM

45 Minutes until Auction ! check it out ...a few nice names and websites

Banned: PCplay · 08-24-2003, 09:24 PM

Woohoo 1 name sold

Banned: bidawinner · 08-24-2003, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PCplay
Woohoo 1 name sold

Nothing new there ..the live auction has sucked for months now..

a few weeks ago we had a $3.00 max opening bid set and ..I think a few hundred bucks worth sold.. everyone hates that idea and wants to list at higher prices ..so thats what we did this week again and right back in the toilet..

but really the biggest problem is the Live auction is not advertised....and until it is people are not going to list their better names

BUT ..that is being worked on...

**Rocket2Uranus** · 08-24-2003, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bidawinner
but really the biggest problem is the Live auction is not advertised....and until it is people are not going to list their better names

I disagree... even when it was being advertised, it sucked. The business model is too flawed. You have mediocre domains being sold to domainers by domainers - usually the same ones they couldn't sell in the sales forums - and frequently at some sort of a premium.

The auctions will never work because the domainer universe is relatively small, the DNF subsection is even smaller, and there is nothing exciting enough to draw them in on a weekly basis.

Until you can resolve some of those fundamental issues, you are just beating a dead horse.

**WebCat** · 08-25-2003, 02:40 AM

Did you notice there were not even BIDS for 99% of the domains?

The problem here is... people can see the reserve. So, if it's more than they think they want to pay, they don't even bother to bid!

This is completely, 100% AGAINST auction logic! Real auctions NEVER tell you what the reserve price is!

Even in the Sales Form, people will SAY there's a reservem but often don't say what it is! I wonder why that is, LOL!

The entire concept of an auction is.... you're not SUPPOSED to know what you are going to pay! That's why it's called an auction!

Maybe it's easier to let it go on sucking till it dies a natural death, than it would be to change it for the better.

I think this is sad, because it has so much potential.

**ClassicNames.com** · 08-25-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WebCat
Did you notice there were not even BIDS for 99% of the domains?

The problem here is... people can see the reserve. So, if it's more than they think they want to pay, they don't even bother to bid!

This is completely, 100% AGAINST auction logic! Real auctions NEVER tell you what the reserve price is!

Even in the Sales Form, people will SAY there's a reservem but often don't say what it is! I wonder why that is, LOL!

The entire concept of an auction is.... you're not SUPPOSED to know what you are going to pay! That's why it's called an auction!

Maybe it's easier to let it go on sucking till it dies a natural death, than it would be to change it for the better.

I think this is sad, because it has so much potential.

WebCat

What do you mean by seeing the reserve? All prices listed are starting bids? :huh:

**Mr Webname** · 08-25-2003, 02:44 PM

The starting bid is the reserve and that is the problem. As Webcat says, see the reserve and pass on so no bidding takes place - no auction.

**WebCat** · 08-25-2003, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Webname
The starting bid is the reserve and that is the problem. As Webcat says, see the reserve and pass on so no bidding takes place - no auction.

Webbie? How did you get to be so smart, LOL! I always agree with you when you are agreeing with me.

yes. In order to HAVE an auction we MUST have bids!

And to have BIDS, we MUST hide the reserve price!

If you put up puppy.com, YOU may want 1000.00 for it, but man, I WANT that domain, and I DON'T know what YOU want, so I BID!!!! I might get lucky!

It's called an AUCTION!

**ClassicNames.com** · 08-25-2003, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WebCat
Webbie? How did you get to be so smart, LOL! I always agree with you when you are agreeing with me.

yes. In order to HAVE an auction we MUST have bids!

And to have BIDS, we MUST hide the reserve price!

If you put up puppy.com, YOU may want 1000.00 for it, but man, I WANT that domain, and I DON'T know what YOU want, so I BID!!!! I might get lucky!

It's called an AUCTION!

Different web answered and that is fine. Thanks for explaining the rest web cat. Now I understand. Let's see what we can do.

Banned: PCplay · 08-25-2003, 10:44 PM

WebCat,

I like your idea and I want to give it a shot. But I am assuming there is little interest in my name (only a few select people, which is different than no value).

So if I were to set the starting bid at say $1 and a $50 reserve. I am assuming that the first person would only bid $1/$2 when they would be willing to bid higher if I made it start higher. So where would I start the bidding?

Banned: bidawinner · 08-26-2003, 05:34 PM

I disagree back at yopu FrontRow

when was the DNF auction ever advertised ? never .. Thats the point.. we dont mean advertised in here..we are talking about across the interent to reach the retail buyers..

BID

Quote:

Originally posted by FrontRow

I disagree... even when it was being advertised, it sucked. The business model is too flawed. You have mediocre domains being sold to domainers by domainers - usually the same ones they couldn't sell in the sales forums - and frequently at some sort of a premium.

The auctions will never work because the domainer universe is relatively small, the DNF subsection is even smaller, and there is nothing exciting enough to draw them in on a weekly basis.

Until you can resolve some of those fundamental issues, you are just beating a dead horse.

**Rocket2Uranus** · 08-26-2003, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bidawinner
I disagree back at yopu FrontRow

when was the DNF auction ever advertised ? never .. Thats the point.. we dont mean advertised in here..we are talking about across the interent to reach the retail buyers..

BID

well, that raises a whole new set of issues, doesn't it?

is taking that gamble really worth opening up the secrets of this industry to the outside world?

Banned: bidawinner · 08-26-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrontRow

well, that raises a whole new set of issues, doesn't it?

is taking that gamble really worth opening up the secrets of this industry to the outside world?

We need retail buyers in the auction.. I wonder if DNF needs an"offsite" place (website?) for the auction? ! whatever "secrets" we have stay here unless they want to join...

What do you think about that ?

08-21-2003, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,160 Location: MN Country:	Sunday Auction Aug 24th Uncwilco has added Names and I just added conventioncenters.us website/domain

08-21-2003, 06:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
SlashRoot.Com Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-06-2003 11:13 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 228 DNF$: 504 Location: chicago Country:	bidawinner, I will be adding a few this evening. SlashRoot __________________ http://www.slashroot.com Many Generic Domain Names on sale at SlashRoot.Com

08-22-2003, 03:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
SlashRoot.Com Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-06-2003 11:13 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 228 DNF$: 504 Location: chicago Country:	About 30 more minutes to add names. __________________ http://www.slashroot.com Many Generic Domain Names on sale at SlashRoot.Com

08-25-2003, 02:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
WebCat Exclusive Lifetime Member Last Online: 04-09-2007 06:29 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,031 DNF$: 21,741 Location: Southern California	Did you notice there were not even BIDS for 99% of the domains? The problem here is... people can see the reserve. So, if it's more than they think they want to pay, they don't even bother to bid! This is completely, 100% AGAINST auction logic! Real auctions NEVER tell you what the reserve price is! Even in the Sales Form, people will SAY there's a reservem but often don't say what it is! I wonder why that is, LOL! The entire concept of an auction is.... you're not SUPPOSED to know what you are going to pay! That's why it's called an auction! Maybe it's easier to let it go on sucking till it dies a natural death, than it would be to change it for the better. I think this is sad, because it has so much potential. __________________ MetallicaForum.com - DomainElf.com - Exclaims.net DomainExpires.com - TouringSound.com - SongNet.us SongClick.com - DedicatedTraffic.com - AmericanMovie.us

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08-21-2003, 06:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
unclewilco DNF Addict Last Online: 11-18-2009 07:19 AM iTrader: (86) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,469 DNF$: 3,677 Location: a shed,wales,uk Country:	nice one i was starting to think only me and my odd infos would be on....

08-21-2003, 07:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,160 Location: MN Country:	I added MatchMaker.Org.Uk ..I had a few people express interest in this domain last month..couldnt close a deal at $160.. .. well here you go starting bid $40.. and proxy is working so you may get it very cheap ..

08-21-2003, 08:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,160 Location: MN Country:	More names have been added.. you have until Friday afternoon to add names..

08-24-2003, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,160 Location: MN Country:	45 Minutes until Auction ! check it out ...a few nice names and websites

08-24-2003, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Banned: PCplay Account Terminated Last Online: 02-18-2006 01:57 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 267 DNF$: 855 Country:	Woohoo 1 name sold

08-25-2003, 02:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr Webname Oldbie Name: N one Last Online: 01-22-2007 05:03 PM iTrader: (6) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,014 DNF$: 1,943 Location: USA Country:	The starting bid is the reserve and that is the problem. As Webcat says, see the reserve and pass on so no bidding takes place - no auction.

08-25-2003, 10:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Banned: PCplay Account Terminated Last Online: 02-18-2006 01:57 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 267 DNF$: 855 Country:	WebCat, I like your idea and I want to give it a shot. But I am assuming there is little interest in my name (only a few select people, which is different than no value). So if I were to set the starting bid at say $1 and a $50 reserve. I am assuming that the first person would only bid $1/$2 when they would be willing to bid higher if I made it start higher. So where would I start the bidding?

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