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Old 04-17-2009, 05:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The person is trying to sell the names for profit.
So what? I hate to be callous - and make no mistake, I am completely against TM infringement or TRUE "Cybersquatting"- but I don't see this as even remotely anything like that. Yeah, I get why you and your pals are pissed... but maybe you should have registered your own full names before? Obviously, there is more to this issue between the Registrant and your select group of people... isn't there?
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This is expressly against the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act.
Are the people that Famous? NO
Did they TM their own names? Again, NO
So... IMO,the statute you refer to doesn't even remotely apply.

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However, I do not want to even explore that part so lets assume its completely irrelevant.
Good... Because it IS irrelevant.
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I would just like to stick to the issue on ICAAN assuming we have what we need to go to a dispute. Asking domainers a way to fight a domainer may ruffle some feathers, hit close to home, and can easily go off topic, haha. So just to save the topic from going astray to a different issue:

With respect to the $1,500 fee, ICAAN - WIPO (not a court of law), can plaintiffs file a dispute together for all their various names for same price so long as it is the same defendant?
Nope.
And we obviously (us evil domainers) can tell that you are completely pissed off and not thinking very clearly even from your first post, so our feathers are not getting ruffled in the least... most of us are having a laugh.
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Ex. There are many cases in which one company pays same price for many different urls against the same defendant (ex. read the lego case which was just posted).
Nice try. No Soup for You.

Look, bottom line is that without a TM on the name (personal names do not automatically become TM's) or without a ridiculous level of individual Fame, you don't even have a WIPO case, it blatantly FAILS on the first test.


I could register JohnSmith.com and all the millions of John Smith's in the world can just keep wishing... WIPO isn't going to favor any of them, even though my personal name is not John Smith.

I could also register IvanpohGerveniaschnitzle.com and if some poor sap that actually is saddled with that as his personal name wants it, he isn't likely going to be able to just "take" it away, even if he wanted to.... unless he is a really famous person.

Just my opinion. Yours will most certainly vary.

I guess the REAL question is... Exactly what did your group of people do to piss this guy off?

Last edited by Cartoonz; 04-17-2009 at 06:01 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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