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Old 05-14-2008, 12:17 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Looking at the failed Kyoto treaty and how the top 5 countries that signed the thing and their resulting $33 Billion Dollars in fines for not meeting the emmissions reduction quota... I have to ask a couple of very pointed questions about this "market" approach.

1 - WHO pays those fines?

2 - Who made the decision to rename TAX in such a way to deceive casual onlookers that this is an opportunity for the market to profit by generating new, cleaner alternatives?

Cap and Trade does NOTHING to reduce emmissions. A true "market driven" solution would. However, what is being proposed under a "market driven" moniker is simply NOT accurate... that is "market punishment"

If companies present themselves in such a way to create a "fudge factor" in their emmissions or work out these financially lucrative long term agreement with companies that don't hit their ceiling, then big, wasteful corporations that make huge profits making waste will simply continue to do so by simply buying credits from others. BOTH of which are producing emmissions and neither has slowed down.

But MMGW fanatics are being "fed" what they want to eat so... I guess it's all good, then, yeah?

No.

How about grants, tax breaks and other financial rewards for companies actively involved in creating an alternative? What about letting the fact that with consumer pressure, marketing prowess and pure profitability in a marketplace where "green" is selling like hotcakes, drive the development?

Back to the COST for a second... Assuming the policy of punishment is imposed, who actually PAYS the bill? Who's paying the $33 Billion Dollars in fines that were imposed by the Kyoto Treaty?

Ultimately, WE do. The taxpayers and the consumers. The wacko's in the governemnt just created a way to extract money from BOTH ends of us. We get taxed on our own consumption and use.

Growth will happen as population increased exponentially despite the lofty dream of returning to the production numbers of the past. Couple that with the fact that the Government would impose those requirements instantly while business has to physically BUILD the equipment needed to comply with those new regulations.

The net result of that is increased fines during the building phase and the physical costs of the new equipment. ALL of which will cost truckloads of cash to the companies being forced to comply.

And WHO pays the new tax, the new fines, the increased costs of the products being produced and the costs of the new equipment to produce them?

YOU DO.

This is the end game folks. This is a carefully constructed plan to extract more of YOUR money from you. The cost of heat just went up Tas... will we get to continue to hear you cry and moan about not getting enough of MY tax dollars to pay YOUR heating bill now that you've supported a way to exponentially increase the cost of heat?

Like them I'd wager, YOU DON'T CARE... because it's people like ME that are paying YOUR bills.

Well... there is a point where people just don't have any more money to squeeze from them. Arguably, we are there with the gas prices (that the government won't just ease off the tax to help with), there's new "Millionaire" taxes being proposed by the Democrats to PUNISH those ambitious enough to create a good life for themselves and their families. Now there's the proposal to increase our consumables costs and taxes and levy fines against us for what amounts to nothing more than a man made hoax, known as Global Warming.

Enjoy the ride. Cause the end SUCKS.

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