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Originally Posted by prateekj  It would have been much more professional of you Steen, to have invited me to the thread when you started it. |
I offered you the benefit of the doubt and ability to solve this quietly and in private. You outright refused.
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1. About the "Fraudulent Clicks"
Firstly, let me tell you that neither me, nor any of my clients are involved in any sort of Click Fraud.
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If you are indeed not Chirag, how could you know if any of your clients are or are not involved in click fraud?
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Secondly, I don't know if anyone noticed but the period of fraudulent clicks that Steen is talking about is from April to date. The domain was sold to him in February. Now, is he trying to say that we have been clicking on the domain that we sold to him 6 months back for the past 4 months??
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Check Escrow, the transaction started March 1 and ownership confirmed March 19. Yes, I did test the domain for a few days in February but it was not purchased until March.
Reread the quote from DS:
Going back in the data that's easy to get to (April 20th to present), it's got 91 clicks, 55 of which are flagged for user
excess clicking. Basically, mostly fraud
I am going based on what DS provided me. What is "easy to get" for them. The domain was acquired March 19. I am saying that it was falsely clicked on for at least two months following (April and May) - check the stats. Only a complete idiot would sell a click fraud domain and completely cut traffic the day after it sold.
How about this (also from DS)
The pub you bought the name from was terminated from DomainSponsor due to fraud
Care to explain this?
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2. Revenue Drop
Refer to the following stats as provided to me by Steen: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8282/chazeoq2.jpg
Now guys tell me one thing. Is there a single person on this Forum who hasn't seen a sudden drop in Parking revenue for American traffic over the past 5-6 months? I personally have seen my earnings drop of 70-80% on my American portfolio. In fact, I too have had some major domain purchases going bust because of the sudden fall in Domain parking.
Steen my friend, when there is a drop in RPC or CTR, there are only 2 parties you can blame: the Parking Provider (in this case DS) or the Ad feed provider (I guess its Google).
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Are you looking at the stats? RPC and CTR is not the issue. The traffic went from 299 in May to 4 in June. DS is saying the clicks since April are mostly fraud. Quit blaming the American economy as I assure you economic woes did not cause most domain names to lose 98% of their traffic in one month.
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It sure is a good enough typo to be receiving 10 UVs a day (if someone here has a S-Z typo, please back this claim).
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Explain what an SZ typo is.
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i) DS has stopped accepting the traffic on this Domain, probably due to trademark concerns or a TM notification from chase or Google.
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ii) Highly unlikely, but a nameserver change by Steen could have caused the domain to stop resolving to the parked page for a while.
I only have one suggestion, try parking this name with an alternative parking provider. Try Parked since they have a Yahoo feed and Yahoo has shown me better revenues than Google on such domains in recent times.
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As you know I have been in contact with DS over this issue. They certainly would have notified me if it were blocked. Clearly this is not the case as the domain continues to serve ads to this date.
Check the nameserver history. Since purchase it has been set to DS' DNS.
Your suggestion to park elsewhere is moot as the domain does not receive traffic and the traffic it used to receive was click fraud.
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I assure you that Chirag and I are 2 completely different people. If the Mods need it, I can produce documents verifying this.
Chirag is an old friend of mine and I was selling this domain on his behalf as a favour to him. Trust me when I tell you that I have NOT made a Single Penny in this entire deal. As far as the email addresses go, its completely a matter of chance that they are so similar.
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If he is an old friend of yours have him refund YOU the funds so YOU as the seller can refund me.
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Still, I want to apologise to Steen for not having made the me-being-a-broker part earlier. It was just that I was a relatively new member here then and I wasn't sure on the forum's policy on Brokering.
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You joined over a year ago and felt the need to lie to me not in public, but via PM about your position in the transaction?
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Steen, as I told you in the mail, your stats clearly show that:
- The Fraudulent clicks started 2 months AFTER you bought the domain,
- The traffic dropped 4 months AFTER you bought the domain,
- The parking RPC has shown a drastic drop across the board for all domains industry wide.
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- This is based on reports DS quality team would easily generate. Surely it is not the whole truth as
the DS account which the domain was previously in was terminated.
- If it dropped immediately you would have not got the funds from Escrow or even gotten as far as Escrow. Click fraud is a controlled activity.
- RPC averages over $12/click for this domain which is unrealistic. The "drop" in RPC is not the issue whatsoever.
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Now, on the basis of which of the above can you claim a refund?
Tell me one thing, why is it that Typos/TMs are sold for 15-18 months revenue while generics sell for 48-60 months?
It is only and only because of the Risk involved. You never know when your domain might get banned or when you might receive a letter from the Company.
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This has nothing to do with TM/generic domains. The issue is that the domain's traffic was a result of click fraud. Traffic was manipulated to sell this domain at hugely inflated price.
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So before you guys jump to any conclusions, try looking at this from my point of view. Now that I know of this thread, I am ready to make any clarifications that you need.
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Good- you will need to clarify a lot because your above arguments make very little sense. Anyone with experience in domaining/monetization will see right through them.
Where is your "old friend" Chirag in all of this? If what you are saying about him is factual then he has some explaining to do and owes you $8500.