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Originally Posted by bwhhisc  Nobody has come forward with any sold proof of those kind of numbers week in and week out for a sustained period of time. Even at HALF of the claim $50,000 a day is still $ 17,000,000+ dollars a year. Take out lets say... $2 million in annual travel and living expenses and someone should have a bonafide $15,000,000+ bank account or tax return as verified proof to show. 
Guess we will see how it goes with those that have signed up for the program for the next 90 days. Good fortune to those taking the chance, and I sincerely hope it is 1% as good as it is hyped to be. That would still be....$ 180,000 to $365,000 a year in profits. I look forward to watching this thread over the next few months for some reports on results. |
I am a course Junky I also have a library of over 1000 books costing me over $40K I am sure... I have bought 3 of these $2K courses over the last year.
Altitude by Eben Pagan
Mass Control by Frank Kern
Product Launch Formula by Jeff Walker (studying it right now as I write this)
And now Arbitrage Conspiracy it starts in January based on the live course the Starter of this thread took for 2 days.
In fact I spend at least $2000 to $6000 on courses every year.
I am more than just a domainer. I am an internet marketer and an author. If the domain business go south who cares I can still make money online or off, becuase I don't have Tunnel vision. In fact from the knowledge I have learned from all of the courses. I could take ANY business that is not selling an obsolete product (such as Ice to Eskimos or buggy whips) and design a marketing plan that would increase their sales so if the internet disappeared tomorrow I'd go buy a suit print up some cards and become a marketing consultant and if they actually did what I suggest they would make money. But fortunately for me (becuase I don't like to work for other people) the internet is not going anywhere But my point is these courses I have taken allowed me to do this.
In fact my study of all of this is what has allowed me to take my adult traffic and convert it in great ratios. I am looking to Now convert my non-adult traffic using the Arbitrage Conspiracy technique as well as use the formula on it's own.
Are these courses and home study courses worth it?
Sometimes yes and some times no. The ones that turn out to be sales pitches such as anything from...Marlon Sanders, Joe Vitale (Although his copywriting course was very good and worth the $1500), I send back.
The Best courses for the money were the ones the Late Cory Rudl released, he gave so much for so little sad that he is no longer with us. But man did he give you value. What other people would charge $1500 for he charged $300!
I keep the ones that are good I have no problem paying money for information. Information is the most valuable commodity in existence.
We live a culture these days that jackasses that have never created anything of any value themselves think that anything digital or information based should be free. Yet they go out and spend money on Alcohol, Cigarettes, gamble, junk food and all kinds of crap than does them no good and actually harms them, but yeah quality life changing information should be free. Kids grow up expecting to download everything for free now. Not realizing the time, energy, research and money that goes into creating the books, courses etc. I tell you the hardest thing I have ever done is to write a book. I read 30 to write one. That's why you get a Phd when you write your thesis, becuase basically you are writing a book. but I digress and went on a rant.
But you do have to be careful not to over do it there is always a new course and I could spend every dime I make on them if I bought every one. For example Jay Abraham has great courses, but really he just repeats himself over and over, infact he gives you so much content that you NEVER need to go to another one of his courses again. Nor would I go to his $20K course to hear him basically repeat what I learned in the $2500 home study course and then buy all of his guest speakers courses as as well.
HERE IS A BIG TIP THAT I HAVE LEARNED "You have to STOP and apply what you have learned before you buy he next course or you are wasting you money."
But for me the courses have been worth it. I see threads on here that are so ridiculous and ignorant. People telling people not to buy a $47 ebook or $97 Ebook or a course, saying that it's rip off or scam.
(You skeptical guys just really don't get it. You don't make money by ripping people off. You make money by selling them a great product and then selling them more great products for the next ten years.)
These same people also say all you need to do is read the forums.
That's such a crock of S**T. Then those same people go out and buy lame names that will never sell, but refuse to pay for an ebook that might teach them something.
I am sorry but not this forum or any will tell you all you need to know. For one thing anyone with any sense is not going to post all of their secrets on the forum. And even if they did it would take you days just to find all of the posts and then determine what was good advise and what was not.
The biggest mistake a person can make is to go into something uninformed and uneducated. And any newbie should invest more money in learning than in buying domains. Learn then invest in domains. How many My-Crappy-Site.info names do you see people trying to sell on here. One $47 ebook and they would not have wasted their money on those worthless domains!
This is the same in anything your greatest investment should be in educating yourself.
Maybe your time is worth .01 an hour but I value mine $XXX+ so if I can buy and ebook or a course that will give me they exact same information that I can get for free all in one place condensed I'll pay $97 for it, so I have more time. And if I can find a course that will give me information that is not available for free I'll pay 20 times that as I have done over and over again. Besides it's all a tax write off.
For example I took mass control yet I have not done a big launch yet, but I did one of the techniques and make $1500 in 4 days which almost paid for the course. I then went to the live seminar and made a contact that I did a promotion with that made me about $10K over two months and built my list, credibility and authority up even more. Then from that contact I got another contact and from that I got an idea that I created a new sales process, which improved my conversion ratio on my book sales.
So my return on the investment of $2200 was what 500% in hard cash right away + intangibles that could not be bought, not too bad.
Last week sales of my books were slow due to the season and I got and Idea to do a promotion with another company and give my books away for free if they signed up. I made about $1800 in a day. I have another planned in a couple of days which I learned about at Mass control once again.
I just bought a (few weeks back) Product Launch Formula. Very similar to mass control, (I almost did not buy it becuase there is so much overlap, but I thought what the hell this guy makes $2,000,000 every time he does a launch I want to learn from him.), But in much greater detail. I am studying it right now for the launch of a new product I am working on, and the re-release of some old ones. I am sure it will more than pay off.
We will see about Arbitrage Conspiracy if it pays for itself for I'll be happy and I am sure it will do much more than that. Will I start making $100K a day, not sure about that, but $500 - $1000 a day I'd be happy with that for a $2K investment. Or even if I can just get ALL of my domains to pay for themselves and pull a profit I'll be thrilled. If not I'll get a refund. I have never been denied a refund yet from anyone and my credit card company would back me up anyway.
To answer the question why someone would give that formula away there are many reasons that I have personally experienced.
1. High Status as an expert your status goes up.
2. It feels good teaching people. Look there are thousands of teachers that make crap salaries teaching children why do they do it? They enjoy it so why would you find it hard to believe that someone would want to teach others how to make money. I enjoy it or I would not do it.
3. To give back. People know to give back or sometimes feel they should when they reach a certain level of success.
4. To make even more money while doing all of the above. $100K a day is nice, he just made about $2,000,000 in one day on that launch. That feels even better.
You say but what about the competition he is creating...
One, he is starting his own CPA network and will now have built in and trained affiliates.
Two, Most people will buy it take the course hardly even use it. Yet not ask for their money back becuase they know it's not the course that failed it's them. Most people are Too lazy, Do not feel worthy, or have such self-sabotaging beliefs and actions that you can literally give them a perfect formula and they will still screw it up and fail. (Next time you see someone smoking cigarettes, you are witnessing self-sabotage in action. People do the same thing financially as well.)
I know I have done it myself many times in spite of making close to $750K+ online (who knows maybe it's even a million, if you don't see it all at once you lose count.) I could have made ten times that much if I had gotten out of my way sooner. But I know one thing, without all of the courses I have taken I doubt I would have made a dime, most people that start businesses fail becuase of lack of knowledge and failing to plan and under capitalization.