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DailyMagazines.com

Fully developed magazine site. This site is new and is not yet generating revenue. Buyer will have to pay an additional one time $50 fee to an outside subscription company. The $50 is credited towards your sales.

Taking all offers over $250 for quick sale. If not sold by the end of the weekend we will invest in it and sell later with a higher price tag. The magazine sites are generating good money.

Just think anyone you know, (family, friends, co-workers, neighbors, your office) can all benefit from you now owning DailyMagazines.com I might even want to be your first customer because there are some excellent deals in the dealer pricing.

Post or PM your offers
 

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im a little interested - why is there a $50 fee - hasnt this already been paid

whats the affiliate company- i want to look into them before committing myself
 

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There you go Fonz. Much cheaper than mine ;0)
 

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NetProwler said:
There you go Fonz. Much cheaper than mine ;0)


Now if I gave out the affiliate everyone would flock over there and my sale would be gone :( It took me months of searching to find them...

The only one who will know the affiliate- is the person who purchases the site...in fairness to all involved.

I'll let the offer stand for an extra 24 hours to those who are presently interested. After that we are keeping it.

**The $50 fee is for the subscription. The owner of the site must give out their name address etc. to obtain the license. This is why we held off on the license and are waiting to see about owner info. I would be willing to include the $50 fee for a $200 selling price to be fair.
 

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FMS said:
Now if I gave out the affiliate everyone would flock over there and my sale would be gone.....

I was also curious about the affiliate program, how it works and why they want an unusual $50 advance fee credited to sales? Excuse me for wondering but why would us finding out the name of your magazine affiliate program makes your sale go away?
 

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no thank you
this isnt no lucky dip - as far as im concerned if you are selling a site you need to specify traffic stats, time to update site, bandwidth etc - what happens if someone buys the site and then finds out that the affiliate site is poor and doesnt pay or whatever.

Im really getting tired of sales threads withholding vital information - though thats another issue

good luck with the sale :)
 

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fonzerelli_79 said:
no thank you
this isnt no lucky dip - as far as im concerned if you are selling a site you need to specify traffic stats, time to update site, bandwidth etc - what happens if someone buys the site and then finds out that the affiliate site is poor and doesnt pay or whatever.

Im really getting tired of sales threads withholding vital information - though thats another issue

good luck with the sale :)

I specifically stated this is a brand new site, so there are no traffic stats. If the buyer does not like the affiliate then I would refund the money. We stand behind everything we sell. How would you expect a company to do business when clients want to know the source? There would be nothing stopping someone from using this information to purchase directly from the affiliate. I'm just curious how you would approach the situation?
 

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i wouldnt - you are in essence selling a domain and information about an affiliate program which is available on the web

its just something we will disagree on
personally - i dont agree with any sale of a website where the seller is deliberately withholding vital information

i know the url of the affiliate program you are using though i wont post it publicly as you obviously dont want people to know about it
 

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FMS said:
....There would be nothing stopping someone from using this information to purchase directly from the affiliate.

Confused since you state the site has no revenue, and is little known and new, why would revealing the affiliates name make the sale go away and why would we go to the affiliate to order magazines direct when in all likelihood there are no orders anyway? Do you really think that many here at dnf are so heavy into online magazine ordering? Sorry if I am missing something.

P.S. In this case the affiliate is more important since they want $50 up-front, very unusual requirement and I wonder why?
 

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In FMS defense, it sounds like he is using the same source as I use for my magazine site. If it is, IT IS NOT AN AFFILIATE COMPANY!
An affiliate company is a company that pays you commissions on sales, that isn't how this works. You make the money first, THEN pay them their fee, quite the opposite of an affiliate program. Also YOU set the price of the magazines. If you want $100 for a one year subscription to TIME, and somebody is dumb enough to pay it...you just made a lot of money. The wholesaler gets the same amount regardless of what you decide to sell for!

Now for the $50 fee. That is a credit, and YOu DO get that back. These people aren't interested in time wasters. They are looking for serious people who want to sell magazines. I have sold THOUSANDS of dollars in magazines. My first order didn't cost me one cent, because the first $50 was deducted.

I can understand FMS hesitation to give out the vital info because the first time I sold a magazine site, I had people "USE" me just to get the wholesalers name. A few even used me to find out where I advertised. there are a lot of dishonest people that come in a and out of the forum, if you can believe that :). I eventually did sell the site, but there were at least 6 other people that knew my wholesale source, and my advertising source. One of them even 'miraculously' started selling magazines right after that point.

At any rate, it is better to just say, that you can plug in any magazine wholesaler, and that you are just selling the site for it's functionality.

Good luck!
 

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whatever you way you look at it - its an affiliate program
you are an affiliate of the magazine company

the site is powered by a free script - the only value of this sale is in the domain and in the information

this is a room for developed websites - not info of where to get a good affiliate program

these kind of sales are killing the marketplace
 

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fonzerelli_79 said:
these kind of sales are killing the marketplace

In light of the current situation I'm pulling the site from DNF and will sell elsewhere. However, I question your intentions as you first are interested in the site and want information as a prospective buyer. Then when I do not supply the source information you bash the site and say these sites are ruining the market. Why not say that in your initial post, and if you are not interested why engage in the thread?
FYI: sites like these are popular and as long as there is demand we will continue to supply. Simple economics.

I don't have the time to post back and forth and will end this thread simply by saying that we can agree to disagree with no hard feelings:)
 

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the site does have value - and i am looking for a site like this
but i am very reluctant to hand over such a large amount of money without knowing everything i can about the site - i enquired about a similar site and every response was vague so they didnt reveal their source

im dissapointed because im interested in buying websites and increasingly dnforum ,which used to be so good for buying sites, is going in the wrong direction

every site ive enquired about theres been some reason why the cant porovide stats, they have no idea how long it takes to update the site, they find it difficult to answer the basic questions of the site

theres no hard feelings - i hope you didnt take it personal

but im a very busy person - i work full time, train a lot and im studying for a professional qualification. So my time is very limited - and it can be time consuming trying to buy sites, getting all the info you need etc.

Ive yet to buy the last dozen sites ive enquired about because of the reasons i have given above - and it is frustrating as theres good members here - dnf used to be THE place to trade - i hope that will still be the case
 

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fonzerelli_79 said:
whatever you way you look at it - its an affiliate program
you are an affiliate of the magazine company

the site is powered by a free script - the only value of this sale is in the domain and in the information

this is a room for developed websites - not info of where to get a good affiliate program

these kind of sales are killing the marketplace

FREE SCRIPT :-O

Actually the magazine company is an affiliate of you.

What makes this site any different than those dotcombuilder type scripts you sell Fonz?
http://dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=54840

There is nothing like having 6 million other sites out there looking identical to the one you are spending time and money on trying to develop :dead:
 

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it is a free script - the site has a gnl license

the sites i sold were like 15 bucks tops - and they werent dotcombuilder they were www.prozilla.com.

also - several people asked me about it and i told them where i got the script.

So was i really ripping people off when i charged like 5 bucks more than the actual domain, told them where i got the site and publicy stated they were template sites?
 

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Nope, never said you were ripping anybody, but realistically, if you want this forum to go back to quality then all dotcombuilders, prozillas, phpbb, postnuke, and the like shouldn't be here.

That will not and should not happen.

You know as well as I do, that you can buy a domain, throw up a site in a few minutes, then sell it. I really don't include that as quality either.

Since you figured out that it may be a free script, you shouldn't have any problems throwing together your own site just like it, not?

My reasoning on all this is simple. If the seller doesn't give you all of the info you are looking for, then just steer clear of the site.

You will save yourself a lot of time and agony.
 

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fair point
though when i talked about sites like this killing the market i didnt really make myself clear. ******** is a good example - good little forum and some good members - but the number of rip artists that hang there now is unbelievable. Im not suggesting here is the same. What i am saying that after dozens of enquiries about sites with not one seller being able to back any stats or the old classic 'my host was down so i cant provide stats' routine (ive had this about 6 times in the last 3 months).

what i was referring to was sellers withholding vital information - obviously theres been a lot of template sales but if the seller states it as such and provides all relevant info and doesent charge like $100 for a site where he gets the templates for 50 bucks a year then it doesnt bother me.

Looking back on the thread, i know that it looks like i was jumping on the sales thread for the sake of it. I was genuinely interested in the site (i have a magazine affiliate site just now actually) and probably took my frustration out at all my recent potential purchases getting stopped because of unprofessional a holes who just want to make a quick buck.

Also - i wasnt suggesting that sites which use public scripts have no value - far from it. What i meant was that if the site had no traffic etc and the script is free then the majority of the value has to be placed on the domain (compared to a site which uses a script which costs say $200)
 

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understood Fonz. I wasn't real excited to see it for sale here either. The one I was selling awhile back....I paid over $600 for the site. It wasn't a freebie...all professionally done. It will be pretty impossible to sell it for what I paid, which definately sucks :(

Not much I can do about tho. It seems all good scripts can be cloned these days, for a fraction of what most people buy the originals for. It's the way of the web.

Good luck with your magazine biz.

Jer
 

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cheers mate
my magazine site is an amazon script site - its been spidered like hell by google so giners crossed

you should definately start marketing your site - get traffic, start getting some money - and then if you do still want to sell it it wont be that hard
 

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Google definately likes Amazon affiliates.

Probably this summer sometime I will start marketing it. My last one was making $500-600 month clear, so I know I can do it.

You are definatley right. Most people are looking for established sites, not ones that need all the hard work that goes into a new site.

Have a good one. I appreciate all the extra dnf $ this thread has generated...lol.
 
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