??? does this mean the register grabbed it and it won't drop?

[think]

I looked this up first on Perfectname.com's whois and it only showed the register info. Now after looking up this record on Whois-Search.com I find an additional expiration date set by the registrar. I am assuming this means the registrar re-upped the renewal or is this erronious? Please note that part in question is in bold print.



The information below is provided by NAMES4EVER for personal use only.
NAMES4EVER does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a query, you
agree that you will use this information only for lawful purposes and
that; under no circumstances will you use this information from
NAMES4EVER to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the
transmission of mass commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail;
(b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to
NAMES4EVER and (c) sell the information. NAMES4EVER reserves the right
to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree
to abide by this policy by NAMES4EVER. NAMES4EVER is ICANN accredited
Registrar for .com .org and .net domain names.

Registrant:
(XXXXXXXXXXX
(XXXXXXXXXXX
USA

Domain Name: XXXXX.com

Administrative Contact:
(XXXXXXXXXXX
USA
Phone: (XXXXXXXXXXX, Fax: ((XXXXXXXXXXX

Technical Contact:
(XXXXXXXXXXX
San Jose, CA 95129
USA
Phone: (XXXXXXXXXXX, Fax: (XXXXXXXXXXX
Billing Contact:
(XXXXXXXXXXX
USA
Phone: (XXXXXXXXXXX, Fax: (XXXXXXXXXXX

Record last updated on 2002-12-30 16:54:28.990
Record created on 2002-03-08 00:41:38.760
Record expires on 2003-03-27 00:00:00.000

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.(XXXXXXXXXXX.com (XXXXXXXXXXX
ns2.(XXXXXXXXXXX.com (XXXXXXXXXXX

Registration Service Provider: IN-Depth
(XXXXXXXXXXX

Registrar: NAMES4EVER, http://www.names4ever.com

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: (XXXXXXXXXXX.COM
Registrar: ABACUS AMERICA, INC. DBA NAMES4EVER
Whois Server: whois.names4ever.com
Referral URL: http://www.names4ever.com
Name Server: NS1.(XXXXXXXXXXX.COM
Name Server: NS2.(XXXXXXXXXXX.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 28-mar-2003
Creation Date: 26-mar-1997
Expiration Date: 27-mar-2004


>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:53:45 EST

NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly
prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to
use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or
query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register
domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right
to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure
operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the
Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.

 

[think]

Can anyone please comment? My Snap comes back that the name has expired but it looks like the 2nd expiration date would supercede the users expiration date.

 

[Whois-Search]

Our whois is actually doing two lookups .......

One connects to the register whois in this case whois.names4ever.com

The other one connects to the new internic whois
http://www.whois-search.com/grace.php

The most important bit in that whois is :

Status: ACTIVE

which means it won't drop

Expiration Date: on 2003-03-27 for example, the registry instantly extended the domain until 2004-03-27 if the regstrar did not receive payment from the registrant - they may delete the domain.


If the status was PENDINGDELETE you would add 5/6 days to the update date.

Thats why you now need the new whois.

 

[changejobs]

so does this mean status can change again , if the person doesnt pay and put it into the redemption or delete cycle.

Originally posted by Whois-Search


Our whois is actually doing two lookups .......

One connects to the register whois in this case whois.names4ever.com

The other one connects to the new internic whois
http://www.whois-search.com/grace.php

The most important bit in that whois is :

Status: ACTIVE

which means it won't drop

Expiration Date: on 2003-03-27 for example, the registry instantly extended the domain until 2004-03-27 if the regstrar did not receive payment from the registrant - they may delete the domain.


If the status was PENDINGDELETE you would add 5/6 days to the update date.

Thats why you now need the new whois.

 

[Whois-Search]

ACTIVE: The registry sets this status. The domain can be modified by the
registrar. The domain can be renewed. The domain will be included in the
zone if the domain has been delegated to at least one name server.

REGISTRY-LOCK: The registry sets this status. The domain can not be modified
or deleted by the registrar. The registry must remove the REGISTRY-LOCK
status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed.
The domain will be included in the zone if the domain has been delegated to
at least one name server.

REGISTRY-HOLD: The registry sets this status. The domain can not be
modified or deleted by the registrar. The registry must remove the
REGISTRY-HOLD status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can
be renewed. The domain will not be included in the zone.

REGISTRAR-LOCK: The sponsoring registrar sets this status. The domain can
not be modified or deleted. The registrar must remove REGISTRAR-LOCK status
to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will be
included in the zone.

REGISTRAR-HOLD: The sponsoring registrar sets this status. The domain can
not be modified or deleted. The registrar must remove REGISTRAR-HOLD status
to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will not be
included in the zone.

REDEMPTIONPERIOD: The registry sets this status when a registrar requests
that the domain name be deleted from the registry and the domain has been
registered for more than 5 calendar days (if the delete request is received
within 5 days of initial domain registration it will instead be deleted
immediately). The domain will not be included in the zone. The domain can
not be modified or purged; it can only be restored. Any other registrar
requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will be rejected. The
domain will be held in this status for a maximum of 30 calendar days.

PENDINGRESTORE: The registry sets this status after a registrar requests
restoration of a domain that is in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. The domain will
be included in the zone. Registrar requests to modify or otherwise update
the domain will be rejected. The domain will be held in this status while
the registry waits for the registrar to provide required restoration
documentation. If the registrar fails to provide documentation to the
registry within 7 calendar days to confirm the restoration request, the
domain will revert to REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. The domain status will be
set to ACTIVE only if the registrar provides documentation to the registry
within 7 calendar days to confirm the restoration request.

PENDINGDELETE: The registry sets this status after a domain has been set in
REDEMPTIONPERIOD status and the domain has not been restored by the
registrar. The domain will not be included in the zone. Once in this
status all registrar requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will
be rejected. The domain will be purged from the registry database after
being in this status for 5 calendar days.

 

[think]

Thank you for your help Whois-Search
I truly appreciate it.
So, in other words the registrar has the option of holding the domain if the current customer does not pay or they can delete it.